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Xerces User ID: 14245097 United States 09/01/2013 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What subconscious? I still remain free of thought unless willed. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess you can say the subconscious isn't very logical minded or why do dreams never make sense, or mine don't Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44830289 there lies the rub, and why it is the huge target of subliminal attack and in fact easily manipulated by unscrupulous types for so long. <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |
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nah User ID: 39685812 United States 09/01/2013 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My subconscious wanted me to leave the house once without turning on the house alarm or locking the doors. I couldn't physically move my body back into the house to lock it up. I tried rationalizing that somebody could break in within the 10 minutes I will be out because of the time of day and people watch in my neighborhood before they rob someone. I had my car started, my kids buckled up, I was in the drivers seat and could barely budge my body out. I finally did and when I returned I was locked out, my house key wasn't on my key ring. Even rationalizing didn't help, I was still wrong. I even used the garage door instead of the front door to leave and that's not something I ever do, extremely rare because I can't turn on the alarm from the garage. All my movements were leading me to leave the house unlocked and I ignored it. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
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nah User ID: 39685812 United States 09/01/2013 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked what stocks to buy - the one I was given went up a little, then went down Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46141022 I asked where should I move - I got a non existent zip code How do I get the answers that will help me in my daily life? Tell us how to test the subconscious It's just your body reacting before you make a decision. You have to really be in tune with what you are doing physically to be aware that something is pulling you the other way. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
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VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My subconscious wanted me to leave the house once without turning on the house alarm or locking the doors. I couldn't physically move my body back into the house to lock it up. I tried rationalizing that somebody could break in within the 10 minutes I will be out because of the time of day and people watch in my neighborhood before they rob someone. I had my car started, my kids buckled up, I was in the drivers seat and could barely budge my body out. I finally did and when I returned I was locked out, my house key wasn't on my key ring. Even rationalizing didn't help, I was still wrong. I even used the garage door instead of the front door to leave and that's not something I ever do, extremely rare because I can't turn on the alarm from the garage. All my movements were leading me to leave the house unlocked and I ignored it. Quoting: nah aha, yea I can relate, in the span of like minute I locked myself out of my car/apt and realized I lost my wallet, while also needing to take a piss real bad. The basic instincts interfered with my conscious thought processes and working memory by goin apeshit over needing to take a leak, but in the end totally worked against ourselves. Last Edited by VolKhrom on 09/01/2013 08:15 PM <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |
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Xerces User ID: 14245097 United States 09/01/2013 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe? I know. I sit here blank minded until I actually stop, think, and have a thought train. Other than I've trained my mind to dismiss thoughts automatically. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
nah User ID: 39685812 United States 09/01/2013 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My subconscious wanted me to leave the house once without turning on the house alarm or locking the doors. I couldn't physically move my body back into the house to lock it up. I tried rationalizing that somebody could break in within the 10 minutes I will be out because of the time of day and people watch in my neighborhood before they rob someone. I had my car started, my kids buckled up, I was in the drivers seat and could barely budge my body out. I finally did and when I returned I was locked out, my house key wasn't on my key ring. Even rationalizing didn't help, I was still wrong. I even used the garage door instead of the front door to leave and that's not something I ever do, extremely rare because I can't turn on the alarm from the garage. All my movements were leading me to leave the house unlocked and I ignored it. Quoting: nah aha, yea I can relate, in the span of like minute I locked myself out of my car/apt and realized I lost my wallet, while also needing to take a piss real bad. The basic instincts interfered with my conscious thought processes and working memory by goin apeshit over needing to take a leak, but in the end totally worked against ourselves. My husband calls it not pushing his luck. It just happened to him in the backyard, he's really in tune and listens to it. When things don't go your way, don't push forward, that's what he always says. He said it's like our backyard is alive with a soul, we let it go the past 2 years, it's like a jungle out there and he just trims everything every couple weeks. Today we saw a groundhog back there and I told him we better clear the brush because the next thing moving in will be monkeys in our trees. He made 2 attempts to do it, but things weren't going as planned so he put down the trimmer and just told me about it. I said haha, we were just talking about the subconscious being right. When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold? No, it's just going to stink more. |
VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked what stocks to buy - the one I was given went up a little, then went down Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46141022 I asked where should I move - I got a non existent zip code How do I get the answers that will help me in my daily life? Tell us how to test the subconscious you're on the right track, posing questions and attempting to gain blind/randomized responses to see how it compares to your rational sight based conscious response is a good direction to follow. then start to train your subconscious to stop fucking you over, talk to yourself..audibly. <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46022054 United Kingdom 09/01/2013 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe? I know. I sit here blank minded until I actually stop, think, and have a thought train. Other than I've trained my mind to dismiss thoughts automatically. isn't this quite normal? it troubles me that a lot of people are unable to go blank-minded, or are scared of it, or think its a "waste" after this post i'll go blank for a few minutes. |
VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe? I know. I sit here blank minded until I actually stop, think, and have a thought train. Other than I've trained my mind to dismiss thoughts automatically. Yea if you actually went through a rigorous training process then I can get on board with what you are saying, I'd say just be careful though, your mind is always processing even if you can achieve meditative type clarity, and you still might be subjected to subversive parsing and organizing of memory unbeknownst to you. Last Edited by VolKhrom on 09/01/2013 08:26 PM <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |
Xerces User ID: 14245097 United States 09/01/2013 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | isn't this quite normal? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46022054 it troubles me that a lot of people are unable to go blank-minded, or are scared of it, or think its a "waste" after this post i'll go blank for a few minutes. No...people haven't learn to shut their brain up for a minute and usually tend to struggle with thought vomit. I laugh when they say the average person thinks about sex X number of times per hour or whatever. Believe? I know. I sit here blank minded until I actually stop, think, and have a thought train. Other than I've trained my mind to dismiss thoughts automatically. Yea if you actually went through a rigorous training process then I can get on board with what you are saying, I'd say just be careful though, your mind is always processing even if you can achieve meditative type clarity, and you still might be subjected to subversive parsing and organizing of memory unbeknownst to you. I'll make this as short as possible. I got shot in the desert, contracted chronic PTSD, and couldn't get my brain to shut up. It drove me crazy, and through a thought training process, I now sit in a clear headed state free of thought. It's tough, but worth it. It is a permanent state of clarity, free of distress, and very serene. Borderline meditative, but aware and tuned into everything around you. Last Edited by Xerces on 09/01/2013 08:34 PM "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46141022 United States 09/01/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked what stocks to buy - the one I was given went up a little, then went down Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46141022 I asked where should I move - I got a non existent zip code How do I get the answers that will help me in my daily life? Tell us how to test the subconscious you're on the right track, posing questions and attempting to gain blind/randomized responses to see how it compares to your rational sight based conscious response is a good direction to follow. then start to train your subconscious to stop fucking you over, talk to yourself..audibly. thanks! how do you do it? |
VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My subconscious wanted me to leave the house once without turning on the house alarm or locking the doors. I couldn't physically move my body back into the house to lock it up. I tried rationalizing that somebody could break in within the 10 minutes I will be out because of the time of day and people watch in my neighborhood before they rob someone. I had my car started, my kids buckled up, I was in the drivers seat and could barely budge my body out. I finally did and when I returned I was locked out, my house key wasn't on my key ring. Even rationalizing didn't help, I was still wrong. I even used the garage door instead of the front door to leave and that's not something I ever do, extremely rare because I can't turn on the alarm from the garage. All my movements were leading me to leave the house unlocked and I ignored it. Quoting: nah aha, yea I can relate, in the span of like minute I locked myself out of my car/apt and realized I lost my wallet, while also needing to take a piss real bad. The basic instincts interfered with my conscious thought processes and working memory by goin apeshit over needing to take a leak, but in the end totally worked against ourselves. My husband calls it not pushing his luck. It just happened to him in the backyard, he's really in tune and listens to it. When things don't go your way, don't push forward, that's what he always says. He said it's like our backyard is alive with a soul, we let it go the past 2 years, it's like a jungle out there and he just trims everything every couple weeks. Today we saw a groundhog back there and I told him we better clear the brush because the next thing moving in will be monkeys in our trees. He made 2 attempts to do it, but things weren't going as planned so he put down the trimmer and just told me about it. I said haha, we were just talking about the subconscious being right. lol, the key is to find out what is in your backyard(subconscious) letting it know what your priorities, likes, dislikes are, and what is going to be the best plan to work together, ie. letting your conscious be the ultimate decision maker for complex or emotionally subtle and sometimes not so subtle situations. then you begin to feel a consolidation of layers which empowers you further and further in the right directions hopefully. if your conscious thought processes are illogical and wrongheaded then you will simply be digging your own early grave. Glad to see all these interesting responses. I think we successfully clarified the intention to a wider audience. Last Edited by VolKhrom on 01/10/2014 03:08 PM <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |
VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked what stocks to buy - the one I was given went up a little, then went down Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46141022 I asked where should I move - I got a non existent zip code How do I get the answers that will help me in my daily life? Tell us how to test the subconscious you're on the right track, posing questions and attempting to gain blind/randomized responses to see how it compares to your rational sight based conscious response is a good direction to follow. then start to train your subconscious to stop fucking you over, talk to yourself..audibly. thanks! how do you do it? I started with the basics, communication is the real key..subconscious processing uses a language that is based off symbols,geometry,acronyms..kinda like pseudo code, also energy, instinct, and feeling. Once I understood how different the language was to the definitions and grammar of the ones we created then I simply expressed to my subconscious that we were miscommunicating. I used number affinity a lot to see how my subconscious felt about certain things in comparison to how I felt at the conscious level. Last Edited by VolKhrom on 09/01/2013 08:53 PM <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42054506 Canada 09/01/2013 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How I used to trained myself to (on another topic of subconscious) to hear my own voice in my head and not another (aka spirit or soul or being) was to count in my head 1 to 10 and backward for weeks. After a time, I knew my own mind voice so when the pitch was different, I knew it was not me thinking. |
VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How I used to trained myself to (on another topic of subconscious) to hear my own voice in my head and not another (aka spirit or soul or being) was to count in my head 1 to 10 and backward for weeks. After a time, I knew my own mind voice so when the pitch was different, I knew it was not me thinking. Quoting: Korats01 aha very clever, thanks for that, it's clean and simple. I like it. <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42054506 Canada 09/01/2013 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How I used to trained myself to (on another topic of subconscious) to hear my own voice in my head and not another (aka spirit or soul or being) was to count in my head 1 to 10 and backward for weeks. After a time, I knew my own mind voice so when the pitch was different, I knew it was not me thinking. Quoting: Korats01 aha very clever, thanks for that, it's clean and simple. I like it. So, what's your test? |
VolKhrom (OP) User ID: 41123038 United States 09/01/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How I used to trained myself to (on another topic of subconscious) to hear my own voice in my head and not another (aka spirit or soul or being) was to count in my head 1 to 10 and backward for weeks. After a time, I knew my own mind voice so when the pitch was different, I knew it was not me thinking. Quoting: Korats01 aha very clever, thanks for that, it's clean and simple. I like it. So, what's your test? I use music a lot, I am adept with the guitar. And synchronicity checks based on intentionality, if I focus on affinity for certain numbers but continually got non affinity based numbers popping up then I knew something was wrong etc.. I ended up being able to sense when others would hop on board attempting to ride or influence and set up rules and shields like mirroring attacks back at them and doubling up on the power of the return punishment type feedback. Last Edited by VolKhrom on 09/01/2013 09:09 PM <%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%> |