BREAKING---Kerry Says Arabs Will Finance Syria War | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44069075 Australia 09/04/2013 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course they will...I believe this whole conflict began when Assad cancelled his 'ARAB' gas pipeline agreement with: Qatar....(Share's the South Pars North Field with Iran) Saudi Arabia Jordan....(who borders Israel and the ARAB pipe was to run close to this border) This pipe was then to run through Syria to Turkey and then feed the EU Assads reasoning for cancellation was the conflict of intrest it would have with his ally and besty....Russia. Russia supplies the EU with a third of their gas reqs Assad then agrees to the dubbed 'Islamic' pipeline with: Iraq Iran....(the other half owners of the South Pars North Field) Pakistan....(to eventually feed ASIA) This now gives Iran and good mate Russia a monopoly over gas supply to both the EU and ASIA and therefore global leverage. I think, in wake of the Fuku nuclear disaster, gas will play a more prominent role in power production, especially in the heavy Industrial continents...ie EU and ASIA. The average price of gas locally (mid east) is $5.50 per mBtu The average price of gas in the EU and ASIA is $12 and $16 per mBtu respectively. Now Israel has recently found a nice $240b 'Leviathan' gas field and not only would Iran and Russia have some serious leverage.....without the ARAB pipe, Israel have no way of selling their gas to the EU...or ASIA for that matter. Very close timing of Assad's 'backflip' of agreements and 'civil' war breaking out....funny that |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37507215 United States 09/04/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to begin with saying that I'm not American. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26158863 I have known American servicemen before. Marines, Army, a member of the Delta. I have immense respect for them, one of them lost his left leg in Korengal, and they were all, one way or another, scarred. But they could handle it. You know why? Because they believed in something. An idea. The idea America once was. A nation I once looked up to - now I despise. Those men I have known had honour, they had a creed, they were all incredible people you could trust your life with. United States of America, by doing this, turned its honourable servicemen into lackeys, cheap mercenaries. United States of America, by doing this, did not only sell the lives of their soldiers, but they also sold something much, much more important than the life of men. They sold the honour of the servicemen. The honour of my friends is for sale? I will not stand for that. I am not American, but I have a quote from Jefferson tattooed on my body, on my right arm. Every time I hold a rifle I wanted it to serve a purpose. I am not American, but I once looked up to the ideals of your Republic. And now you've sold it. well, do try and stay out of the way of our Predator Drones and Cruise Missiles, 'kay. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46324254 Uruguay 09/04/2013 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came back home to school determined to start a thread just like this. 5 stars. ERMAHGERD! [link to encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com (secure)] I think there are a lot to questions to ask about this DETAIL. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15170057 Canada 09/04/2013 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course they will...I believe this whole conflict began when Assad cancelled his 'ARAB' gas pipeline agreement with: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44069075 Qatar....(Share's the South Pars North Field with Iran) Saudi Arabia Jordan....(who borders Israel and the ARAB pipe was to run close to this border) This pipe was then to run through Syria to Turkey and then feed the EU Assads reasoning for cancellation was the conflict of intrest it would have with his ally and besty....Russia. Russia supplies the EU with a third of their gas reqs Assad then agrees to the dubbed 'Islamic' pipeline with: Iraq Iran....(the other half owners of the South Pars North Field) Pakistan....(to eventually feed ASIA) This now gives Iran and good mate Russia a monopoly over gas supply to both the EU and ASIA and therefore global leverage. I think, in wake of the Fuku nuclear disaster, gas will play a more prominent role in power production, especially in the heavy Industrial continents...ie EU and ASIA. The average price of gas locally (mid east) is $5.50 per mBtu The average price of gas in the EU and ASIA is $12 and $16 per mBtu respectively. Now Israel has recently found a nice $240b 'Leviathan' gas field and not only would Iran and Russia have some serious leverage.....without the ARAB pipe, Israel have no way of selling their gas to the EU...or ASIA for that matter. Very close timing of Assad's 'backflip' of agreements and 'civil' war breaking out....funny that Interesting, thanks for the info, made me even more nervous about what's going down though. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46325010 Netherlands 09/04/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Quoting: ISLANDIA Less than 50 Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily. “With respect to Arab counties offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.” Ok slowly now getting back up in chair Well, didn't O "bill" for the cost of Lybia? |
waterlily User ID: 35309250 United States 09/04/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thing just makes me sick. I was sick over Libya, what a bloody act of international piracy, and now Syria, the same thing. Obama, Kerry, Clinton, et all are all obviously, visibly and unmistakeably vampires and ghouls. Have you ever noticed that Kerry's eyes are rolled up like he's half dead? And the fangs on Obama? I am not kidding, these people are true blood suckers and worshipers of demons and Hades. There is no foreign policy here, beyond pillage and plunder. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37507215 United States 09/04/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to begin with saying that I'm not American. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26158863 I have known American servicemen before. Marines, Army, a member of the Delta. I have immense respect for them, one of them lost his left leg in Korengal, and they were all, one way or another, scarred. But they could handle it. You know why? Because they believed in something. An idea. The idea America once was. A nation I once looked up to - now I despise. Those men I have known had honour, they had a creed, they were all incredible people you could trust your life with. United States of America, by doing this, turned its honourable servicemen into lackeys, cheap mercenaries. United States of America, by doing this, did not only sell the lives of their soldiers, but they also sold something much, much more important than the life of men. They sold the honour of the servicemen. The honour of my friends is for sale? I will not stand for that. I am not American, but I have a quote from Jefferson tattooed on my body, on my right arm. Every time I hold a rifle I wanted it to serve a purpose. I am not American, but I once looked up to the ideals of your Republic. And now you've sold it. it was sold a long time ago. Our military have been used to serve CORP USA since????? always to secure oil and other resources that do not belong to use. This makes them mercenaries even if they don't realize it. we fought the War in the Pacific (WW2) to save the Dole Pineapple Plantations in Hawaii. . |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 09/04/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to begin with saying that I'm not American. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26158863 I have known American servicemen before. Marines, Army, a member of the Delta. I have immense respect for them, one of them lost his left leg in Korengal, and they were all, one way or another, scarred. But they could handle it. You know why? Because they believed in something. An idea. The idea America once was. A nation I once looked up to - now I despise. Those men I have known had honour, they had a creed, they were all incredible people you could trust your life with. United States of America, by doing this, turned its honourable servicemen into lackeys, cheap mercenaries. United States of America, by doing this, did not only sell the lives of their soldiers, but they also sold something much, much more important than the life of men. They sold the honour of the servicemen. The honour of my friends is for sale? I will not stand for that. I am not American, but I have a quote from Jefferson tattooed on my body, on my right arm. Every time I hold a rifle I wanted it to serve a purpose. I am not American, but I once looked up to the ideals of your Republic. And now you've sold it. it was sold a long time ago. Our military have been used to serve CORP USA since????? always to secure oil and other resources that do not belong to use. This makes them mercenaries even if they don't realize it. we fought the War in the Pacific (WW2) to save the Dole Pineapple Plantations in Hawaii. . |
littlemiracles User ID: 32798472 United States 09/04/2013 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thing just makes me sick. I was sick over Libya, what a bloody act of international piracy, and now Syria, the same thing. Quoting: waterlily Obama, Kerry, Clinton, et all are all obviously, visibly and unmistakeably vampires and ghouls. Have you ever noticed that Kerry's eyes are rolled up like he's half dead? And the fangs on Obama? I am not kidding, these people are true blood suckers and worshipers of demons and Hades. There is no foreign policy here, beyond pillage and plunder. Pillage and Plunder... I told my mate last night, they are like the VIKINGS |
mehitable User ID: 1524722 United States 09/04/2013 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thing just makes me sick. I was sick over Libya, what a bloody act of international piracy, and now Syria, the same thing. Quoting: waterlily Obama, Kerry, Clinton, et all are all obviously, visibly and unmistakeably vampires and ghouls. Have you ever noticed that Kerry's eyes are rolled up like he's half dead? And the fangs on Obama? I am not kidding, these people are true blood suckers and worshipers of demons and Hades. There is no foreign policy here, beyond pillage and plunder. I know we all kid about these people, but seriously....you're right. They all look AWFUL. For people with so much money and power, they all look either half dead, half crazy, senile, or just plain nasty looking. And they can't dress for shit, look at Michelle, who's like a walking Test Pattern. I'm really struck by how AWFUL Lurch Kerry in particular is looking at the moment. He and Mrs. Ketchup look like something left over from Satan's last orgy. Nasty, nasty, nasty. |
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littlemiracles User ID: 32798472 United States 09/04/2013 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thing just makes me sick. I was sick over Libya, what a bloody act of international piracy, and now Syria, the same thing. Quoting: waterlily Obama, Kerry, Clinton, et all are all obviously, visibly and unmistakeably vampires and ghouls. Have you ever noticed that Kerry's eyes are rolled up like he's half dead? And the fangs on Obama? I am not kidding, these people are true blood suckers and worshipers of demons and Hades. There is no foreign policy here, beyond pillage and plunder. I know we all kid about these people, but seriously....you're right. They all look AWFUL. For people with so much money and power, they all look either half dead, half crazy, senile, or just plain nasty looking. And they can't dress for shit, look at Michelle, who's like a walking Test Pattern. I'm really struck by how AWFUL Lurch Kerry in particular is looking at the moment. He and Mrs. Ketchup look like something left over from Satan's last orgy. Nasty, nasty, nasty. It's because the evil lies pour from his pores... Total creep factor! |
Saddletramp User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 09/04/2013 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38275630 Why would we be at war with Oceania, we've always been at war with Eurasia... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Saddletramp User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 09/04/2013 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will our disabled vets medical bills and disability get paid by Saudi Arabia as well? Quoting: Fred 46235713 They can wait in line at the Saudi embassy...line will probably be shorter than the one at the VA now! "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12582603 Canada 09/04/2013 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A rich Saudi paid for Obama's education. The Bush family was close to the Saudi's. According to Wikileaks the Saudi's reach peak oil this year. Iranian oil fields would greatly benefit them. Perhaps, America thinks they have an ally controlling the oil but I think they are wrong. The Saudi's can't be trusted. They didn't pay the contractors who built all those buildings in Dubai. They didn't even pay the foreign workers from India who worked for low wages. I think the Caliphate is coming and it will be run by the Saudi's. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12582603 Canada 09/04/2013 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me that the war on terrorism was designed to bring the Saudi's into control of all the middle east oil and turn America into a prison state run by a dictator who can use executive orders whenever he wants and who can use the patriot act to lock up domestic terrorists such as patriots, tea party members, constitutionalists and so on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46324611 United States 09/04/2013 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A rich Saudi paid for Obama's education. The Bush family was close to the Saudi's. According to Wikileaks the Saudi's reach peak oil this year. Iranian oil fields would greatly benefit them. Perhaps, America thinks they have an ally controlling the oil but I think they are wrong. The Saudi's can't be trusted. They didn't pay the contractors who built all those buildings in Dubai. They didn't even pay the foreign workers from India who worked for low wages. I think the Caliphate is coming and it will be run by the Saudi's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12582603 Spot On! Remember all them cars at their airport. Even more funny is the fact they do not have black water waste infrastructure, miles and miles of septic tankers. |
mehitable User ID: 1524722 United States 09/04/2013 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A rich Saudi paid for Obama's education. The Bush family was close to the Saudi's. According to Wikileaks the Saudi's reach peak oil this year. Iranian oil fields would greatly benefit them. Perhaps, America thinks they have an ally controlling the oil but I think they are wrong. The Saudi's can't be trusted. They didn't pay the contractors who built all those buildings in Dubai. They didn't even pay the foreign workers from India who worked for low wages. I think the Caliphate is coming and it will be run by the Saudi's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12582603 You're very perceptive. All this time we're thinking of America taking over the world, and OUR empire, when maybe it's all about the Saudis building THEIR empire, which would be the Caliphate. They're rebuilding the Ottoman Empire with themselves as the Ottomans. And we're their Janissaries. |
mehitable User ID: 1524722 United States 09/04/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It seems to me that the war on terrorism was designed to bring the Saudi's into control of all the middle east oil and turn America into a prison state run by a dictator who can use executive orders whenever he wants and who can use the patriot act to lock up domestic terrorists such as patriots, tea party members, constitutionalists and so on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12582603 I think you are absolutely right, and what has made this crystal clear to me...is Lurch Kerry's open admission that the "Arabs" (Saudi Arabia and presumably Quatar) will "pay" for it , making the US military their mercenaries. That, and the simple fact that the Saudis and Quataris(?) are the only countries who would benefit from the destruction of Syria. I know some Israelis think it might benefit them, but they are wrong, wrong, wrong, and very fool hardy to trust the Saudis. Because once the Saudis dismantle everything else, the last target in the sites (provided Iran doesn't destroy them first) will be a very naked Israel. |
ISLANDIA User ID: 8828100 United States 09/04/2013 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not the author of this another GLP poster it makes perfect sense A civil war was started in Syria by Saudi Arabia and Qatar money to fund militant groups who want to install a Sharia Law system over Syria, provided that the militant group grants Saudi Arabia (Sharia Law) oil pipeline rights. The US, being a bitch of Saudi Arabia's oil tycoons, has been helping to fund this entire thing. Anyways, Assad started winning, beating the rebels back further and further, even with Saudi Arabia bypassing Qatar in pure funding (more than $3 billion) in weapons, and arms. At some point, it is postulated, that the US/Saudi's had chemical weapons shipped to the rebels in a crude form. The rebels made makeshift incendiary devices with said chemicals, and fired on random civilian targets in order to gain "international support," for their war efforts (I.E. NATO/UN). And now we are at that point where this is being "debated," but it's going to happen anyways because they need that pipeline to go through Syria to the Sinai. I believe it's the last country standing in the way. |
mehitable User ID: 1524722 United States 09/04/2013 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not the author of this another GLP poster it makes perfect sense Quoting: ISLANDIA A civil war was started in Syria by Saudi Arabia and Qatar money to fund militant groups who want to install a Sharia Law system over Syria, provided that the militant group grants Saudi Arabia (Sharia Law) oil pipeline rights. The US, being a bitch of Saudi Arabia's oil tycoons, has been helping to fund this entire thing. Anyways, Assad started winning, beating the rebels back further and further, even with Saudi Arabia bypassing Qatar in pure funding (more than $3 billion) in weapons, and arms. At some point, it is postulated, that the US/Saudi's had chemical weapons shipped to the rebels in a crude form. The rebels made makeshift incendiary devices with said chemicals, and fired on random civilian targets in order to gain "international support," for their war efforts (I.E. NATO/UN). And now we are at that point where this is being "debated," but it's going to happen anyways because they need that pipeline to go through Syria to the Sinai. I believe it's the last country standing in the way. The last country except for Iran...which while not directly in the way....might have nukes. They certainly have plenty of incentive to be developing them considering our penchant for invading one Muslim country after another. What you say makes complete sense, and it's now pretty obvious that the Saudis have been behind a lot of this from the start. I think we underestimate them because Americans just think of them as, excuse the term, a bunch of "towelheads" or "camel jockeys" and that is FAR from the truth. They're smart, fabulously wealthy, and absolutely ruthless. And if they succeed in their plan for ME domination... they will turn on both the US and Israel. You cannot trust the Saudis. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37507215 United States 09/05/2013 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not the author of this another GLP poster it makes perfect sense Quoting: ISLANDIA A civil war was started in Syria by Saudi Arabia and Qatar money to fund militant groups who want to install a Sharia Law system over Syria, provided that the militant group grants Saudi Arabia (Sharia Law) oil pipeline rights. The US, being a bitch of Saudi Arabia's oil tycoons, has been helping to fund this entire thing. Anyways, Assad started winning, beating the rebels back further and further, even with Saudi Arabia bypassing Qatar in pure funding (more than $3 billion) in weapons, and arms. At some point, it is postulated, that the US/Saudi's had chemical weapons shipped to the rebels in a crude form. The rebels made makeshift incendiary devices with said chemicals, and fired on random civilian targets in order to gain "international support," for their war efforts (I.E. NATO/UN). And now we are at that point where this is being "debated," but it's going to happen anyways because they need that pipeline to go through Syria to the Sinai. I believe it's the last country standing in the way. The last country except for Iran...which while not directly in the way....might have nukes. They certainly have plenty of incentive to be developing them considering our penchant for invading one Muslim country after another. What you say makes complete sense, and it's now pretty obvious that the Saudis have been behind a lot of this from the start. I think we underestimate them because Americans just think of them as, excuse the term, a bunch of "towelheads" or "camel jockeys" and that is FAR from the truth. They're smart, fabulously wealthy, and absolutely ruthless. And if they succeed in their plan for ME domination... they will turn on both the US and Israel. You cannot trust the Saudis. hell, Pakistan probably even has the Hydrogen Bomb |