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Cleveland Women Put In Gulag And Held For Psyh _Eval For Trying To Put Up Anti-Bush Poster
Carol Fisher is being held indefinitely in a surprise May 9 court hearing, becoming another political prisoner held illegally for speaking out against Bush.
13 May 2006
By Greg Szymanski

A Cleveland woman, manhandled by police and charged with two felonies for trying to display anti-Bush posters, was jailed in a Cuyahoga County psych unit last week in what her attorney called a "highly unusual and outrageous" decision.

Carol Fisher, 53, was ordered by state court Judge Timothy McGinty to undergo a psychological examination as a part of her pre-sentencing investigation in the anti-Bush poster incident.

From the onset of the case, Judge McGinty openly claimed Fisher suffered from "mental problems" for resisting a brutal encounter on Jan. 28 when Cleveland Heights police manhandled and arrested her even after complying with orders to not display the anti-Bush posters on a downtown Cleveland Heights street.

And during a last minute May 9 hearing, Judge McGinty said Fischer's opposition to the Bush administration makes her "delusional."

In response, Terry Gilbert, one of Fisher's attorney, said in more than 30 years of practicing law, he has never seen "anything remotely like this," adding legal challenges are ongoing, including a writ of habeas corpus.

"This is gulag stuff," said Gilbert. "Is this the kind of country you want to live in when dissidents are determined to be crazy?"

In a phone call after being put in the psych ward, Fisher said her eyeglasses were taken, she was put on suicide watch and if she doesn't comply with the psych examination, she will be sent to the North Coast Mental Institute for a 20 day evaluation.

During the hearing, Judge McGinty made other strange requests baffling attorneys, asking defense counsel to openly read a lengthy message on Fisher's t-shirt, saying:

"Wanted for Illegally Crossing Borders: The Bush Regime. If you are going to insist that crossing borders illegally is a crime which cannot be tolerated, how about George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice (and yes, Colin Powell) and the rest of that gang, with their highly illegal, and violent, 'crossing of the border'-into Iraq, among other places?!"

Judge McGinty then said this was proof of her delusional state, adding that "Carol wants to go to jail and that she has a martyr complex." Fisher had initially refused to taking a state ordered, saying there was no reason for it due to the fact American citizens have the right to express political opinions in an open and honest fashion.

However, Judge McGinty's response to Fisher's refusal and statements was simply that "I don't negotiate with felons."

"I'd be crazy to go along with the psych test," said Fisher, adding she feared being railroaded by crooked state psychiatrists based on her opposition to the Bush administration. "That which you will resist and mobilize to stop, you will learn or be forced to accept."

And looking back on the entire Fisher story, starting with the Jan. 28 police brutality incident involving the anti-Bush posters, her case is a stark example of the fascist climate existing in America, an unsettling climate were dissidents are punished and authority figures are allowed to trample on civil rights.

As reported in the Arctic Beacon as well as being a guest on Greg Szymanski's radio show the Investigative Journal, Fisher said she was brutalized by Cleveland Heights police, charged with two counts of felony assault and held incommunicado under police custody in the hospital even after complying with orders not to post the anti- Bush signs.

"The facts show that I was willing to take the posters down as the officer requested. But I was arrested anyway. Yet the prosecution intends to distort the facts and police still promote the lie that I was arrested because I refused to comply, and attacked them," said Fisher.

"The real point here is, there need to be more posters all over the place demanding an end to the Bush Regime! The facts clear and simple: I was wrongly arrested and assaulted for putting up anti-Bush posters. I was further punished for defying them.

"What about my injuries, trauma, intimidation, a threat on my life, being labeled a crazy wildcat, held incommunicado for six hours, forced to undress in front of four male policemen, and now the loss of my job? And most of all, what about the fact that all this happened because I put up a poster calling for active opposition to the Bush Regime!"

And Fisher's run-in with authorities and subsequent illegal incarceration is just another example of the long line of cases piling up across America showing the "real live day to day" lock down on freedom of speech and the use of police as the Gestapo arm of the fascist Bush administration.

"I had set out from my house with a full agenda, to contact lots of people and get out materials about our upcoming Cleveland event to Drown Out the State of the Union address, and the call to march around the White House on Feb. 4th. My first stop was the an area known for its community of artists and progressives, where I stapled up posters for blocks and was greeted warmly by those who saw and appreciated what World Cant Wait is doing. I talked to an artist, and a Palestinian store owner who took fliers to distribute to customers.

"Next stop, to the east side. I drove down a street in Cleveland Heights, another area known for its diversity and progressive history. This street was badly in need of postering too and though i was in a big hurry, I couldn't drive on without getting up a few signs. Before long a cop called from across the street: "Ma'am! Hundred dollar fine for doing that!" Oh really, since when? Another way of keeping us from getting the word out, eh?

"But not wanting to get arrested, I said ok and put up my staple gun and walked away. But that wasn't the end of it. "Ma'am! Hundred dollar fine unless you take those posters down." He is pursuing me across the street. Damn! OK fine, I say, I will take them down (not wanting to get into a confrontation, because I have lots to do today!) But this too is not enough for the cop. He wants my ID. I say I don't have my ID. He grabs my arm. I say let go of me, I am not doing anything wrong, I will take the posters down. People are watching to see what happens, are outraged but very afraid. The cop won't let go, he clearly wants more grief from me, and he is in the spotlight. He wants people to be scared. He pushes me against a store window and next thing I know I am face down on the sidewalk with two cops on top of me, one with his knee in my back. I am trying to call out to people, to tell them what the posters are about.

"They keep pushing my face into the sidewalk. I can't breathe. I have osteoradionecrosis in my jaw, resulting from radiation treatments for cancer. My jawbone is slowly deteriorating, is very fragile, and doesn't heal well. I am 53 years old, not exactly a spring chicken. A hand comes down again to push my chin against the concrete.

"By this time there are four cops on the scene. My hands are tightly cuffed behind my back. They lift me up and shove me onto a park bench and shackle my legs. I am still calling out, telling people what this is about. One of the cops says to me, "Shut up or I will kill you!", "I am sick of this anti-Bush shit!" "You are definitely going to the psyche ward." Then somebody calls the EMS, and a fire squad shows up.

"The cop supervisor appears and puts his finger in my face: "I don't like it when people treat my men like this and if you don't obey the law you will suffer the consequences." I am lifted into the EMS truck, hands still cuffed behind my back. I ask to make a call and this is refused, but a fireman offers to make a quick call for me. If not for this, no one would have known where I was or what was happening, a fate shared by many immigrants in this country. At the hospital, I am treated as an arch-criminal. Escorted by four policemen, I shuffle into the emergency room, legs still shackled, covered with leaves and mud. I think to myself, if I was Black, I would not have made it this far. I would probably be dead by now
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apologys if this was already posted. I think this sounds like how the Communist leaders worked. This happened only an hour away from where I live. I have also seen this attitude among my local police.
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Judge McGinty needs to be REMOVED. He is becoming the norm for the country's courts on all levels. I'd like to see his diploma for psychology.

WE will not negotiate with LAWLESS TRAITORS!!!!


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Ive graffidied up my area with antibush stuff LOL
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Is the judge a Talmud Jew or Freemason?
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Hmmmmmmm, maybe they will diddle her with an anti bush handle while she is in the mental ward!!!
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sounds like a "big Pay Day" to me
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Sounds like we're all in for a similar fate if we don not act now.
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wow im not surprised in the least im wowed by the judges harsh reaction since when did this woman become an enemy of the state? does she not have a right to free speech or expression?

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We are all enemies of the state as declared by fuerher Bush.

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Well....... I was baned from GLP las night for posting an anti Bushie thread.
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How can any of you believe this crap?

Her story is obviously false or greatly exaggerated.

The officer would NOT say, "I'm going to kill you".

In most communities, it IS against the law to put up any kind of poster, without prior approval.

This is even true of "yard sale" signs.
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It happened. get over it.
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Your next.
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That is what happens when you do not....

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I've lived in cleveland on the west and south side for 43 yrs. Not a big fan of east side, they are rich f'n elitists for the most part. But Cleve hts....ooooohhhh cleve hts is reknown by those of use in these woods as nazi hts. Almost every blvd is 25 mph and if they catch u going 27 better have a cork in ur ass. It is unreal, I have personally experienced the bad vibes, it does not surprise me a grandma was body slammed to concrete for having a f'n opinion there
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Rally for Carol Fisher set for CoventrYard; trial set for Monday

Thursday, April 20, 2006
By Jeff Sikorovsky
The Sun Press

CLEVELAND HEIGHTS _ Dozens of supporters are expected to attend a speak-out event in support of Carol Fisher from 5-6 p.m. Saturday at the CoventrYard mini-park on the southwest corner of Coventry Road and Euclid Heights Boulevard.

Fisher said someone is trying to get a city permit for the event, as the CoventrYard mini-park is city property, despite the fact it is open to the public.

But Fisher added, It's an informal thing even though it's being publicized.

Two days later, Fisher is to stand trial on two counts of assault on a police officer following an incident Jan. 28 on Lee Road.

The trial is scheduled to begin at 9 a.m. Monday in Judge Timothy J. McGinty's courtroom on the 21st floor of the Justice Center in downtown Cleveland.

Fisher has pleaded not guilty to the assault charges and has been very vocal over the past two months proclaiming her innocence.

Fisher, 53, a political activist for the World Can't Wait: Drive the Bush Regime Out movement, was arrested after police stopped her from hanging signs on utility poles along Lee, which is illegal here.

The signs were advertising a Bush Step Down protest rally in Washington D.C. the following week.

The arresting officers, Daniel E. Downing and Michael B. Frinzl, claim she attacked them after they told her to take down the posters.

Fisher has said the officers didn't give her a chance to take down the posters. She claims the officers had no right to touch her and she was responding in self-defense.

She said police threw her up against a shop window and forced her to the ground, and one of the officers put his knee in her back to handcuff her. Her legs were later shackled.

Both Fisher and the officers were treated following the incident at University Hospitals for cuts and scrapes.

Fisher's attorneys, Terry Gilbert and Dan Shields, say it is a case of police over-reaction.

Others police officers responding to the scene were Inv. Michael Kane, Inv. Michael Marko, and patrol officer Anthony Piotrowski.

The city is not releasing incident reports, witness statements or EMS reports related to the incident until after the trial, and has referred all questions to the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office.

Revolution Books

City officials have said the content of the signs is not at issue. Fisher disputes that.

Fisher, a former Cleveland Heights resident who now lives in Cleveland, has volunteered off and on for 10 years at Revolution Books, 2804 Mayfield Road, just around the corner from Coventry.

It's all volunteer. We have no employees there, she said of the book store, which, according to one Web site, is affiliated with the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA.

Fisher also works part-time as an assistant to a private financial advisor. Now I have this on my record. It already has negatively affected (my job), she said.

Other than that, I'm doing pretty good, she said. It's stressful and hard, but I'm heartened by all the support I've been shown.

To advertise Saturday's rally, Fisher said supporters were going to pass out fliers earlier this week at the Severance Town Center post office as people dropped their tax returns in the mail.

She said musician Carlos Jones voiced his support from the stage during his concert with the P.L.U.S. Band Saturday at the Grog Shop on Coventry.

Almost 50 people came out in support of her at a council meeting in February, and poetry and music benefits are in the works to help defray any legal costs, Fisher said.


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© 2006 cleveland.com All Rights Reserved.
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The dumbeech deserves everything she gets.

Fisher, 53, a political activist for the World Can't Wait: Drive the Bush Regime Out movement, was arrested after police stopped her from hanging signs on utility poles along Lee, which is illegal here.
 Quoting: Gmann


What she did was illegal. There are plenty of legal places to hang signs.

The arresting officers, Daniel E. Downing and Michael B. Frinzl, claim she attacked them after they told her to take down the posters.

More evidence she is retarded. Always get video. Always. If you are going to be doing things like that, you need to be documenting exactly what you are doing. And if there's an incident with police, you're covered, so long as you are in the right to begin with.
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Shakespeare was wrong. FIRST, we kill all the judges, THEN we kill all the pol's.
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The dumbeech deserves everything she gets.

Fisher, 53, a political activist for the World Can't Wait: Drive the Bush Regime Out movement, was arrested after police stopped her from hanging signs on utility poles along Lee, which is illegal here.

What she did was illegal. There are plenty of legal places to hang signs.

The arresting officers, Daniel E. Downing and Michael B. Frinzl, claim she attacked them after they told her to take down the posters.

More evidence she is retarded. Always get video. Always. If you are going to be doing things like that, you need to be documenting exactly what you are doing. And if there's an incident with police, you're covered, so long as you are in the right to begin with.
 Quoting: Ningishiddza


You're a cop aren't you?

Bullfuckingshit.

She was going to take the signs down. This is all shit. They had no right to treat her like that. They're being paid.

I hate to hear of such SHIT happening in ANY part of Ohio. Makes me want to live on another planet. Forget another state. I wan't OFF this planet.
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Its Ohio, what do you expect.
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Its Ohio, what do you expect.
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I expect some sort of transportation to take me off this planet. Before I go totally insane. I don't want to snap over such crap. scream
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How can any of you believe this crap?

Her story is obviously false or greatly exaggerated.

The officer would NOT say, "I'm going to kill you".

In most communities, it IS against the law to put up any kind of poster, without prior approval.

This is even true of "yard sale" signs.
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Even the ACLU isn't claiming the crap these kooks are about this case.
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We are all enemies of the state as declared by fuerher Bush.

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I just want to really shitstream all over that smurky face gwdance when the bastard quotes one of his favorite phrases " for all loving people of freedom".....

Is this ahole serious? What exactly does the word freedom mean to this warmongering man?
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