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Spoken like a true dogmatic Dispensationalist!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72289392 Does your claim of being a "true dogmatic Dispensationalist" mean the poster is not "saved"?
If Saved, what difference does it make?
Yet you argue, why? Do you really think that crown only pretrib preachers get is really that precious?
Pretrib is stupid, even if it is "true" because there is no blessing or "gold crown" that makes your being saved better than his being saved.
Boasting of the crown you are supposedly going to wear around for eternity because you believe and contend with others about pre trib rapture is just anti-Christ.
I'm not sure who you are talking to here.
The poster you quoted is very anti-Dispensationalist for some reason. Yet he offers no alternative End-Times theology.
I don't think End-Times opinions affect salvation. We are either saved or lost. But they may affect the Crown of Righteousness that Yahshua(Jesus) has promised us that wait for His soon coming.
I'm not sure why there is so much hatred of Pretribulationism and Dispensationalism. But as long as people continue to attack it daily, I will continue to defend it because I believe it is the Truth, and with it comes the Blessed Hope and the Crown of Righteousness. And I'd feel guilty if I let the errors of their theology and constant and often hateful attacks turn people away from these blessings. We are supposed to be watchmen on the wall, and warn people and contend for the faith when needed.
The Blessed Hope is for those who watch and wait for our Savior's return. Why try to deny someone this hope?
The crowns that are given to some saints as rewards for good service will not be worn around for all eternity. They ALL will be laid at the feet of Yahshua, the only One who is worthy to wear any crowns. It will be a time to allow faithful believers to bless our Savior by giving Him their crowns. The crowns are part of a reward system Yahshua Himself has instituted, so if you have a problem with them you should really take it up with Him yourself.
The only boasting that should ever be done is to boast in Yahshua, our Savior and Messiah. Only He is worthy of such praise.
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If thats the case then why have so many pre tribbers cursed me to hell for not being pre trib?
These are the same ones who are into the prosperity gospel and that holy laughter lakeland toronto blessing crap who also curse you to hell for not following that crap.
Im so sick to death of these pharisees.
They hate anyone who does not see things their way.
I even got bashed almost to death by a pastor and his flunkies when i didnt buy into their self rightous bullshit.
The whole thing is a cult.
An evil money making cult.
I am never ever ever ever EVER setting foot inside a church again till my last breath.
I have never met such a hate filled bunch of self rightous cultists in my life quite like the ore trib money loving holy laughter crowd.
They sneer at other cults for date setting.
And yet look at their own HYPOCRISY...
RAPTURE FAILS SINCE 2004
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Ah, the false date-setter spammer. You really should remove the threads from your wall of text that have nothing at all to do with date-setting. You are disingenuous when you add those and then represent them as if they are date-setting threads.
I have never noticed any Pretribulationists who 'cursed me to hell for not being pre trib.' Can you show me a few examples so that I may properly rebuke them?
"These are the same ones who are into the prosperity gospel and that holy laughter lakeland toronto blessing crap who also curse you to hell for not following that crap." - Yeah, I think you found some heresies here. I think these guys are quite confused. I even went to visit a revival of theirs to see the chaos for myself. It was unsettling to say the least.
Hate of others in any form or persuasion is very un-Christ-like. And I like to point it out loudly when I see it. In fact, I have seen quite a lot of hate directed against Pretribulationism and those who believe in it; And quite often too. Pick any rapture thread, and a certain percentage (often a large percentage) of the posts will be hate-filled and profanity-laced against Pre-Tribbers. It's quite a poor testament to non-believers who may be following the thread.
I try to keep emotionalism out of my posts as much as I can. It tends to detract from the message.
I'm sorry you had a bad run-in with that pastor and his 'flunkies.'
Unfortunately, there are those who want to profit from any line of work or position within a religion. If there's food in the water, there will come a shark from somewhere to eat it. It happens in all religions, even with those selling books that bash Pretribulationism. Preterism seems to be in vogue these days among many of the Charismatics, and they like to bash Pretribulationism. And their authors are making millions of dollars doing so.
There are cults out there that Christians should beware of. And there are date-setters out there that are clearly in contradiction to the bible and are in error. But orthodox Pretribulationism is neither a cult nor a date-setting theology. I hope you can see the difference.
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