A question for all of you

Hello Friend Emit:

To speak to your question, a One World Government would, of course, be ideal. The problem is that currently, the so called illuminati want to be in control of that government and have everyone else be their slave. They would like to kill most of the sheeple and keep just enough alive to serve them.

This is unacceptable.

A One World Government based on the sovereignty of each Soul as a unique and individual expression of the Supreme Creator would be delightful.

Have a nice visit, friend Emit.

Wisdom

On the off chance you come back, here is my response to your question.

The reason that we fear the world government comes not from the idea that an organizing structure would be bad, but that it would be bad in the hands of the current people in power. All of the "good" forms of government attempt to stop the government itself from hurting the people. Of course, it fails miserably given the sort of people that seek power. But a world government would give them their ultimate expression of power. We would have no where to run and no one to come to our aid. Of course, the facts on the ground should show us that we already live in that situation. So all you need to understand is cognitive dissonance.

Almost all people internally feel they have the perfect and true way to live and all people should live that way. However, we can see that we have flaws in our world. We falsely assume that people must be flawed inherently. So our religions have these silly ideas of "original sin" and simultaneously raise humans above the rest of the world while saying that we have more evil at the same time. This contradiction causes the cognitive dissonance.

So in short, the masses keep going along with the obviously false game because they honestly believe that no other way to live their lives exists. It is obviously a looped recursion over the logic domain, but brain level debuggers have not been invented yet.

Whether you be time traveler or confused individual, you seem to honestly want truth and understanding, so I wish you well!

"A One World Government based on the sovereignty of each Soul as a unique and individual expression of the Supreme Creator would be delightful."

Yes, that would be nice Wisdom.

Bridas.

I was given a link to this thread from another forum.

I have to say, Bridas, that you are looking outside of yourself for answers. Do you really think that someone else is going to save you or anyone else from distruction? Thinking that way gives away your personal power. Why would you want to do that? Grow a new spine my friend, you're gonna need it.

Did this time traveler happen to pick up an old IBM computer too? There was something a while back about someone from the "Future" who wanted to come around and get an old clunker computer.

Whoever this person was is well-read at least. Emit has read Theosophy, hundreds of trance channeled messages, the entire series of Zecharia Sitchin books and articles from www.rense.com

Anyone who takes the time to read could easily come up with the same stuff. Emit said nothing new. *yawn*

I'm inclined to not believe a word of it, because if time travel was possible, the person traveling isn't going to come on an internet forum and say, "Hey! I'm from the future! Let's talk."

Please.

Linc

Thanks for stopping by. The answer is life. I just enjoy the experiencing. If that means I experience the illusion of not knowing, fine.

As for courage. I`m here aren`t I?

Bridas.

All be it, I am intrigued by the idea presented by this story teller, real or not. His knowledge of of physics and the information he sets forth is very elementary even by our standards today, much less 700 + years in the future.

All that aside, what I find very interesting about the OP is the question that is posed and I find a very surreal truth in it.

Why are we scared of the NWO? A one world government? Will it really be any worse than what is already in place? In fact such a thing could perhaps improve the quality of life for 90 percent of the population while the other 10 percent will simply lose civil liberties and certain freedoms we are already in the process of losing.

We already accept everything else we are spoon fed and most people will eat up the shit in unimaginable doses.

We here at GLP are not the norm and are by the far the minority as far as seeing what is happening. As I have posted before I feel like I am dreading the inevitable.

I hate to say this, the planet would certainly be better off with a massive population reduction and perhaps myself included. I would prefer that nature perform the operation though and let the strong survive as opposed to some stuffy arrogant fat cats decided who stays and who doesn't.

Your controllers do not want you to know about the fact that humans went to the mars in 1966 in a covert mission. Of course they were assisted from technologies given... or rather sold to them,(sold for something more precious than dollars).

Hey friend,just curious but what is it you say was more precious than dollars?

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"Hey friend,just curious but what is it you say was more precious than dollars?"


According to the conspiracy the answer is human life and letting the aliens perform experiments via abduction on humans.

Emit Rekkert

If you return
and if I may ask you question

are there in your time
those who live now
that did not perish in body
even into your time?
are they known? and what advantage to themselves do they have by having lived through what has happened since thier births up to your time?


Does the earth become
like a "tourist" destination?
are there natives of earth that can lounge and speak with the tourists and gain understanding advancement on both sides and become friends and remain in touch?

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as far as your question to us of why we "fear" a one world order
to me it is pretty clear
that the more the order 'enforced' by others
the less the growths and advancements allowed by the individuals standing under those who enforce the order

unless of course the order
is achieved through education
of that which is within each
and that which is within each become the "King" and ruler of the order - but this I cannot fathom happening too quickly

we have for too long been taught to fear a contrived invented enemy
even to newspaper columnists named 'Dear Abby' telling us to place locks on our doors cause there could at any moment be a rapist or robber lurking at our doorsteps
all the way to the cold war propoganda of imagining the everyday Russian Villiager plotting to bomb our local grade schools

perhaps the greatest distrust is the absolute subconscious realization certainty that if there came to be a one world order growing out of what we have had these past few hundred years - there would always be some faction emerge as the latest "dispicable' "enemy of the People" (in order to keep the one world stirred up and entertained) and that by the lottery of who decides what - any one of us could be in the position of having our 'group' be named as the ones to send the youths off to shoot, maim rape and subdue

What class are you doing this paper for, Trekker? Philosophy? Psych? Or is this a new class about the WooWoo Generation?
Well, good luck, and work on your spelling. It went to pot a little after your first posts. Of course this could be because there are several of you working on this project...pass it on to them.
I'd love to know what the title of your paper is going to be.

WHY I AM OPPOSED TO A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT

"I have gotten a lot of letters from the extremely gullible segment of our political society demanding to know why I cannot seem to grasp the wonderful benefits of a single world government such as they believe it will be, and how I could possibly be opposed to such a benevolent world rule.
There is nothing new about one world rule. From a political and economic point of view ruling the world means controlling everything one can reach that is worth controlling. Alexander conquered the whole world that he could reach and the treatment of those he conquered serves as a model for the realities of life under a world dictatorship. Rome also conquered pretty much the whole world that it was aware of (until it hit Germania). Life was pretty good if you happened to live in the capital city within walking distance of the Colloseum and the Circus Maximus, but everywhere else life was made harsh by Roman rule, else there would have been no need for legions located across the empire to stamp out rebellions by the tax-weary populace. All conquerors like to boast that they are a benefit to the conquered, but common sense and history shows this to be a self-serving lie. Whether you are Caesar, Hitler, or Bush, if you use military might to force your way of life on another, then the people being forced clearly do not agree that the way of life of the conquerors is a blessing.

One World Government is just the vanity of some tyrant wanting to say, "I own it all", and like Alexander, who deliberately shattered his kingdom upon his death so that nobody else could be the ruler of the world, such ego maniacs could care less about the population living under that one world rule. It's all about their name in the history books and on monuments and no matter how many have to die for it.

One world rule is great for the rulers, terrible for the ruled. People who believe otherwise probably believe that the alien mother ship is arriving in the tail of the next comet.

My opposition to a one world government is based on two arguments, one obvious, and one subtle.

The obvious argument against a one world government is that while the NWO groupies imagine a one world government with a benevolent Santa Clause in charge, the reality is that power will attract the very sort of people who should not have it, who will do anything to get it, and therefore once they have it, will do anything with it.

Human history proves that as soon as we are all slaves to a one world government, it is inevitable that this government will fall into the hands of another Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or Torquemada. No purported safeguards can prevent that from happening. Hitler was elected by the German people, and our own recent history proves that elections can be rigged by powerful individuals or agencies.

Past genocidal monsters were stopped because the nations they ruled, however powerful, were only one out of many. Those other nations were then able to band together to stop the single monster, as was the case in WW2.

What happens if a One World Government falls into the hands of another Hitler? The people of the world would be no more able to stop a new Hitler than the people of Germany were able to stop the first one. Imagine the world today if Hitler had won WW2. That is the world which MUST sooner or later come to exist, cannot help but come to exist, under a one world government. That danger alone, of the creation of a one world dictatorship waiting to be plucked as a prize by the most ruthless cutthroat the species can breed, is alone reason to abandon the suggestion of a one world government.

Think of a multi-nationed world as a ship with multiple water tight compartments. No matter what happens to any one compartment, the ship as a whole sails onward. A one world government is a ship with only one compartment. If that compartment gets into trouble, the whole ship must sink. Even today, the absence of international barriers to trade means that economic folly by one government can have disastrous consequences for all others. Compartmentalization is a good thing, for ships, economies, and governments.

The second reason to avoid a one world government is a bit more subtle. The creation of such a one world government pre-supposes that the very structure of such a government is the best of all possible systems under which people could be ruled. But every system ever created assumes that they are the best possible system. The Egyptians believed that. So did the Romans. So did the Theological rulers during the Inquisition. So did the Confederacy. And the rulers of such systems, being the beneficiaries, worked hard to preserve those systems and to crush out examples of alternative systems that might actually be better ones.

Over time, new social systems evolve to displace old ones. Often, wars are fought for this purpose, such as the one fought between some colonists who thought a Congress might be a good idea, and George III who thought rule by divine right was as good as it got. Only because there were other nations willing to assist the colonials was the United States created. France in turn saw the example set by the United States and decided rule by divine right had outlived its usefulness.

The process by which one social system replaces others is a process of evolution. Under a one world government, such social evolution would stop. There would be no tolerance for alternative systems, no experimentation with new social orders, no possibility of recovery from socio-political trends detrimental to the people. The political structure of the New World Order would be no more tolerant of alternatives than are the two established parties of the United States, the Republicans and the Democrats (which are in reality two faces of the same oligarchy).

It is impossible to claim that the perfect socio-political system has been found, yet the establishment of a one world government is founded on the very assumption that it is the perfect socio-political system and that therefore no corner of the world should be allowed to rule themselves with a different system.

As vile as would be the rise of a one-world Hitler, it is this automatic termination of socio-political evolution which forms the greater argument against the establishment of a one world government."

another question, Emit Rekkert, if I may

in your time are you still having kids that were fed into the 'tunnel' of Montauk show up?
is this a phenomenah that is known?
What is done for these kids? and is such an active 'program' such like a 'department' of our government?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 94085
5/16/2006 12:33 PM

nice post dude
may I comment?
(of course I am a conspiracy non-coward even if I dont wear the prescribed headgear [link to people.csail.mit.edu] )

But it is my opinion that we actually already have pretty much a one world order

just like in the USA we have the dems and republicans both parties are ultimatly ruled by some corporocratic mini-conglomearate of families

I believe all the countries of the world (although likely there are some outsiders) are controlled by the same few and my guess such is manipulated through the Intelligence (Spy) Departments of the governments ... churches of course and corporations also counting as 'governments

I have a couple of questions, aside from world events, more on the indivdual level..

Do the basics still exist in your time? For example, the unconditional love for a child, the maternal instinct?

Can you recommend any current natural products to fix any diseases? Like cancer, bipolar, etc.?

How are the animals in your time? Any pets?

What do you eat?

Reply: A Comment Or Two

I read your "question" with a great deal of interest. There is no way for me to say whether or not your claim is true in any way or form. However, for the sake of this exercise, let us assume that what you have said is true. If we do this, then I would have to say that it appears your future has some problems of its own.

Your statement clearly reminds me of a report, which was posted a few years ago. In that report, it stated that there were quite a few visitors coming from the future who would be here for the changes. It also stated that as a result of the coming changes; many timelines in the future and the past would reflect our changes - creating a better future for all.

I sincerely hope so. For your future exhibits real problems.

Any future where technology, through a telepathically driven, group mind concept; reflects a future where technology has taken precedence and indeed, dominance over humanity itself. You may deny this. However, I have done sufficient research to know that what you reflect in your statement comes about through the control and manipulation of humanity through technology. Let me make myself very clear here.

Regardless of what is said in the near and/or distant future; a group mind, telepathically driven technology cannot encompass true individuality, privacy, creativity and initiative. What it will do is control and restrict the human populace to such an extremely limited existence that while it may be idyllic; it will not reflect either the human race's positive and natural inclinations or needs. Nor would I suggest that it fits the Creator Of All There Is' natural desire and inclination to learn from his/her individual sparks of life.

I would also hazard a guess that the timeline and future you reflect is based on current circumstances in the present timeline where the American people maintain remain subservience to the leadership and infrastructures presented in accordance with Plan B; instead of becoming true co-creators with the Creator Son, as stated through Plan A.

If the American people do stick with Plan B; then I wouldn't hesitate to hazard a guess that your claim in regards to another American Civil War re: Immigration as well as other near future events you have mentioned; which you claim will occur in the next year or two - will (whether or not the American people want to face the real truth) have some validity to them.

However, allow me if I may, to point out the uniqueness of this time period currently underway in accordance with the parameters laid out in the Third Grand Earth Experiment. This timeline, which at this point has come about as a result of the merging of all other 3D timelines is totally unique in its flexibility and indeed, possibilities.

In other words, if in accordance with the current trends and patterns exhibited and depending on the ability of the American people to learn from their mistakes along with the free will decisions they will come to is directly proportional to the ultimate direction the human race will take.

How many paths or direction can be taken? There are an infinite number of choices available to us. So I would suggest that your particular future timeline is not yet set in stone. Indeed, as has been indicated in some reports; the truth is that this timeline is so highly variable in its current potentiality and possibilities -that virtually anything can happen!

Every event you have mentioned for the near future is based solely on just one possible future or timeline coming true. If the American people learn to listen to others - not just themselves; if they can learn to get past the limitations ingrained into their psyches from birth; if they can do this, then they will learn to become co-creators with the Creator Son and every event you have mentioned may never occur. This is what Plan A is all about - the human race creating its own future.

So I would suggest that before you start spreading what may be considered by some as negative information that is not yet reality; you might want to consider the true potentiality in existence at this given time and place. If you do so, you may very well realize the potential of other options - other possibilities.

For if we do implement Plan A - your future may never have existed! Just a thought for you to consider in accordance with and under this third dimensional realm of physicality's shroud within our space and time.

Have a great future!

I appreciate all these wonderful posts. I have had an opportunity to get a lot of information for my journal. You can rest in the fact that while many changes are ahead for you, there is coming a new dawn for humanity. You will be welcomed among the stars as equal brothers and sisters. You will learn that we are all... every entity in this and other universes, ONE! We share a common source and a common destiny among the infinite multiverses that we traverse in this wonderful journey we call life.

This era on this planet at this exact time is the beginning of a birthing; the birthing of a new humanity. Some will ascend into higher planes of the astral realms while some will remain to finish out their hard learned lessons. Your ability to love, show compassion and generosity will determine what, if any, evolutionary soul jump you will experience. The change in frequencies will be instantaneous... the twinkling of an eye!

I bid you all farewell and send you all my love and prayers for a safe journey into your destiny. Each of you have something important to offer at this important juncture of Earth's history or you would not have been born into this exciting era in time. Your soul masters, spirit guides and guardian angels will guide you if you seek their help. Your redemption is drawing nigh!

Emit Rekkert

User ID: 1326
5/16/2006 4:33 AM

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Emit, here are some questions from a member of another foum, but I`d be glad if you could answer them.

BRIDAS.



I have a few questions, I will be glad if you can answer me. Can you briefly describe who are the wingmakers and their mission on Urantia in relationship with the Creator, and also can you be more specific about what kind of invasion are you talking about?

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I will answer as many questions today as I can as I will not be here tomorrow. I am to leave for another era before I return home.
The wingmakers are the Elders who have created the computer that governs the planet. It is not the nightmare device that some of you imagine although it does determine what sanctions will be placed on those who do not contribute to society. There is no money in our society and everyone contributes what they are capable of and receive what they need and want. It is communism without the tyrants who govern it. It is not perfect, but it is as fair as is possible. The wingmakers are very advanced souls that truly loves humanity and wants to see us advance to our ultimate destiny. I suppose you could call them our spiritual monitors and guides as well as leaders.

The invasion I refer to is not what I call it but what many are calling it. The war will start over the perceived threat of America's loss of sovereignty by open borders allowing millions to come in. It isn't a perceived racial threat but rather a "numbers" threat. The fact that your paper dollasr will soon be recognized as worthless will add to the chaos that exacerbates the situation.
I hope that answers the question.

The Observer - Canada
User ID: 94181
5/16/2006 3:13 PM

Your question is rather long but I shall try to elucidate. Technology in and of itself is not bad or evil. Men with evil intentions can use technology for evil intentions... control of the masses for the benefit only of the controllers. Technology is merely the mind creating material tools available to it. I myself have, what you would call a "gadget" that, when placed over a deep cut or severed artery, heals it within seconds. I have had occasion to use it twice in my time journeys.

I have lived to be 147 years old and this is considered to be very young still in my era. I will die someday as every living thing must eventually do but death is not the end! Death is simply the transformation from what state of being to another. Any technology that increases one's life span is considered with high regard in my society because it assists and expedites our soul journey toward conjunction with the Source.

It is true that as a collective, you people in this era could change the future I have read about and have come to observe but the rub is "probability"! The probability of such a time line change decreases exponential the closer we get to the event. Remember that quantum mechanics is governed by probability and so is the quantum field that permeates the infinite multiverses. I recently viewed a delightful movie called "Star Wars" where they allude to the quantum field as simply " The Force". Well, The Force is governed by the laws of probability. Your probable future, or time line, is governed by where you are on the time line and I must tell you that you are so close to the events I have described that the probability of averting the events is so close to zero as to be virtually zero. Ten years ago the probability of averting the events were much greater.

Emit Rekkert

So, on a soul level do we all choose this for soul growth? The distruction of life as we know it?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 64455
5/16/2006 5:25 PM
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So, on a soul level do we all choose this for soul growth? The distruction of life as we know it?

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Life will never be totally destroyed from Earth until some far distant epoch. We choose our parents and our bodies before birth. It is part of our free will. We can longer blame others for our fate or our life's situation because we choose it all.... before birth as part of our growth and as part of what you might call karma.

Oh, thank you for answering. I feel that Earth is very special and is most comparable to God for me. I don't want to see this lovely earth destroyed.

I believe you have stated that the rapture is real. I do feel that many will go through much fear in the face of change.

Are their being's at a highter plane than Wingmaker's?

I know the sun has changed and the process "maybe" has increased sooner than normal. Is this due to chemtrail's and those that believe are doing the right thing for humanity?

BRIDAS
User ID: 1326
5/16/2006 9:55 AM

What you call the Grand Portal is probably what I refer to as the "Reality Gate" which is the best I can do with this language. It refers to the portal or gate that leads to the
"Divine Halls of Light". A reality that we know little about that is separate from the multiverses and time lines as we know it. Our scholars have been attempting to learn more about this reality but all we know for sure is that only the Source and those who have merged can access this realm. We suspect from several communications that this realm is where we will exist trillions of years from now after our present universe and multiverses expand to nothingness.

The portal that can only be accessed by a deep level of compassion? Who came closest to that level in our history?

User ID: 64455
5/16/2006 6:06 PM

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I know the sun has changed and the process "maybe" has increased sooner than normal. Is this due to chemtrail's and those that believe are doing the right thing for humanity?

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The sun in this era is changing in ways surprising to your scientists. The planets are heating up and changing their magnetic polarities because of the object that is coming into this solar system. You call it planet X but you will all be very surprised to fined out it is not a planet, atleast not you know one... naturally formed. Like the moon was once brought here, planet X, the correct name is Celestia, is being "driven" here for the "Harvest". Those with descernment will understand.

Emit Rekkert

How long will this process take? There have been other's claiming to be time traveler's. Are you familiar with Gaia man?

This planet, is it also called the dark twin or Brown Dwarf by scientist or will it be bright?

I'm full of question's, lol. Is their a reason we haven't been back to the moon or is this not true and there is a base on the moon that belong's to the U.S? Where did scientist obtain knowledge for space flight? Our own flying saucer's.

Are there people on earth at this time of higher or enlightened being's? Can some really shape-shift?

To Emit Rekkert:

Prove you are from the future by answering this question:

A gigantic natural event will occur in the year 2072.

What is the event?

If you are from the future beyond this time point you will be able answer this question.

And yes it will be sizeable enough to be remembered in "your time".