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By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.

 
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By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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The problem with that theory is that even if they are utterly certain there is nothing after death, there is no point in trying to prove it because..what are they gonna do?...off themselves and then pop back quickly and say "See..I told you so"?

Maybe the fact that they cling to life so strongly is proof of their convictions.

They reason that they have this one brief moment free from the void..so savour every second of it because they wont get another run at it.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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The problem with that theory is that even if they are utterly certain there is nothing after death, there is no point in trying to prove it because..what are they gonna do?...off themselves and then pop back quickly and say "See..I told you so"?

Maybe the fact that they cling to life so strongly is proof of their convictions.

They reason that they have this one brief moment free from the void..so savour every second of it because they wont get another run at it.
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But that would mean they are valuing life.

True atheism by its own right can not place any value on existence. A true athiest should care so little about life that dying is an afterthought.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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The problem with that theory is that even if they are utterly certain there is nothing after death, there is no point in trying to prove it because..what are they gonna do?...off themselves and then pop back quickly and say "See..I told you so"?

Maybe the fact that they cling to life so strongly is proof of their convictions.

They reason that they have this one brief moment free from the void..so savour every second of it because they wont get another run at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47185094


But that would mean they are valuing life.

True atheism by its own right can not place any value on existence. A true athiest should care so little about life that dying is an afterthought.
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Not eally.

I used to be an athiest and as a result I treasured life 100% because I was convinced it was ALL there was and the only chance to really LIVE before returning to the endless eterinty of void I was fortunate enough to have escaped from for a few years.

I understand the thought processes.

Anyone who has ever been an athiest should.

But those who sneer at them and mock them dont understand HOW they feel..or how desperate they really are to treasure this little moment of conciousness they are given.

Its really sad to see christians always hating them and mocking them all the time.

If anything you should be loving them and helping them..not hating them and mocking them.

But evil is as evil does..and those who hate and mock ARE evil.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
But why value life? Placing any value on life at all means there must be some type of intrinsic worth to it which contradicts the entire philosophy.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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You are a fuckin' idiot, just sayin'.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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The problem with that theory is that even if they are utterly certain there is nothing after death, there is no point in trying to prove it because..what are they gonna do?...off themselves and then pop back quickly and say "See..I told you so"?

Maybe the fact that they cling to life so strongly is proof of their convictions.

They reason that they have this one brief moment free from the void..so savour every second of it because they wont get another run at it.
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But that would mean they are valuing life.

True atheism by its own right can not place any value on existence. A true athiest should care so little about life that dying is an afterthought.
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You are being totally illogical, no surprize for a christtard.
NOT an atheist, but agnostic, and like you, have no proof whatsoever about any sort of "life after death".
So why throw away all that I will ever have?
I should be enjoying every minute until last call.
Being atheist does not mean no value for life, what a stupid notion.
It means that every little bit of life is precious.
Christians fight death with every means at their disposal,
and why?
They should be anxious to meet their "god".
Why should atheists be in a hurry to go? No fairy tale waiting for them
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
ATHEIST VIEWPOINT:
Aetheists do not believe in afterlife.
No afterlife means you only get 1 life.
Therefore this one life becomes very valuable.
It's the only one you get, be bloody careful with it!

RELIGEOUS VIEWPOINT:
Many afterlifes.
So you get more than one life.
Therefore this life is not the best china, it's just another plate, nothing special, there's more to come. In fact much better stuff to come.

With the above in mind I would assume the opposite of your statement OP. And I would assume anyone with 100% faith of a euphoric heaven would expediate their own passage, especially if they were having a shitty time in this life.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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Nice try bible thumping cultist.

cruise
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
ATHEIST VIEWPOINT:
Aetheists do not believe in afterlife.
No afterlife means you only get 1 life.
Therefore this one life becomes very valuable.
It's the only one you get, be bloody careful with it!

RELIGEOUS VIEWPOINT:
Many afterlifes.
So you get more than one life.
Therefore this life is not the best china, it's just another plate, nothing special, there's more to come. In fact much better stuff to come.

With the above in mind I would assume the opposite of your statement OP. And I would assume anyone with 100% faith of a euphoric heaven would expediate their own passage, especially if they were having a shitty time in this life.
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Bravo.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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Nice try bible thumping cultist.

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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I feel this post was just made to entice people, but I will play along with you.
I am an atheist and absolutely believe there is nothing after this, Yet I love humanity and every person and living thing with the upmost respect to all, but that being said I have 3 kids a wife,3 dogs a good job heck I got a great life and I am living the american dream and I cherish it all, every minute of it! so why in the fuck would I want to kill myself ???

I do not care what anybody else believes, its honestly not my business, I just wish everyone believed in each other and that would help this world to evolve into what we should be, UNIFIED.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
You are trying to put your values on someone else. It's a very misguided and closeminded way of thinking.

Being atheist means nothing more than not accepting the claims of god(s).

Buddhists are inherently atheistic, but believe in reincarnation.

I am an atheist myself, and know that whether I'm good or evil in my finite existence will not effect my infinite nonexistence. I can be a civil paragon, a criminal, or a lazy bum. Doesn't matter. I do know that I will cease to exist like everything else. So, I make the best of my limited time at hand.

Basically, you can't comprehend what someone else thinks. Don't assume.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
Why not himself?
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
As a christian with confidence enough to get into heaven, you should be willing to let someone kill you without any hesitation or second thought. In fact, you should encourage other people to end you everyday so that you can finally meet your maker, and live in "heaven" full of bliss. So why is it that millions of christians are afraid to die?
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Logical fail. Herself??????? It is I could not care less. NOT being significant.
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atheists are just crazy evil people who have no soul and think they are inflicting pain on 'religious' people by destroying their 'faith', and they enjoy the idea of hurting them in some little way.
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atheists are just crazy evil people who have no soul and think they are inflicting pain on 'religious' people by destroying their 'faith', and they enjoy the idea of hurting them in some little way.
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not to say believing in the bible isn't a good reason to off yourself, just saying there probably is a god, he probably just hates us or is indifferent, but I do believe there is one.

You might as well just worship the god everyone else pretends is there because they will like that. they will respect you for it.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
being tricked and brainwashed into believing something stupid makes you feel humiliated and want to die.

Just remember, when you feel like you want to die it is really just usually because you are tired or not feeling physically well. You will feel better the next day.

If you drink a lot of caffeine or something, or eat a lot of sugar the next day you may feel like that.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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Please go dunk your head in a toilet and take a very deep breath.. phuckin troll.

Who the fuck are you to define some one's beliefs & what their convictions should be.?
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I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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pussie, tits and ass give life some worth
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I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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Why do you assume I place value anywhere? Maybe I just like living right now. This isn't poker it's my life. It takes baby steps. Small paragraphs help too.hf
On the other hand, I have different fingers.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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No logic there. Just because someone is an Atheist does not mean that they do not enjoy living.
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That's the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard. An atheist cannot value life, especially their own? A Christian should be willing to be crucified at any moment by that logic. If that's you, send me your address. I have some contracts and waivers for you to sign before your are nailed to your cross.

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That was one of the most stupid threads that I have read for a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time...

I am not an atheist myself by any means, but I cannot defend such crappy logic (or lack of any logic whatsoever, actually) and stupidity.

I hope you have some explanation for this idiocy, like being super drunk, officially (medical definition) mentally retarded or just being 11 years old and your first time on the internet.
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I'm not a bible thumping cultist. And I could really care less what anyone else believes in. If athiests want to believe what they believe then that is just fine by me.

However, just so athiests are absolutely sure where they stand, they should fully understand the principles of their beliefs.

Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life. It is the catch 22 for athiests. Unless of course they are armchair athiests or frauds.

If you genuinely state that nothing exists after your death and that there is no God, by principle alone you should be capable of demonstrating your convictions by committing suicide without any hesitation at any given moment. Any possible excuse you might have to back out of committing suicide proves that in fact you have doubts and you admit that you are actually agnostic. Any excuse at all. Placing any value on life whatsoever means you are not an athiest.

Just sayin.
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You certainly sound like a bible-basher.
And an evil one at that.

Why should an atheist kill themselves to prove nothing?
Your argument is absolutely ridiculous and applies the same fuzzy logic as the usual religitards do.

The fact is, since atheism sees nothing after death means that life is something to be held onto at all costs.

You arsehole.
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Re: By definition, a truely genuine athiest should be perfectly willing to kill herself on the spot at any given moment.
Id kill myself for the fact that there IS a god. Its what god did. To reach a form of enlightenment to realize you are someone creatation and therefore do not have any free will the only thing to do is destroy yourself.
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Id kill myself for the fact that there IS a god. Its what god did. To reach a form of enlightenment to realize you are someone creatation and therefore do not have any free will the only thing to do is destroy yourself.
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God committed suicide?
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Believing that there is absolutely nothing but a void after death, then there can not be any intrinsic value to life.
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Here is your flawed logic, and this statement alone is why you are wrong.

A (possible) future void does not impact the value of life now.
put rock in geyser.
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that makes absolutely no sense man.

i am a atheist and yes when ya die its nothingness.
But i value life.
Because we only get one of them so enjoy it.





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