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MIND BLOWING quantum physics states particles "know" when they are being watched by a conscious being and change their behaviors when viewed

 
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Quantum theory says that atoms know when they are being watched by a conscious being, and they change their behavior when you watch them, then revert back to normal behavaior when your eyes are closed ITS COMPLICATED. WATCH WATCH WATCH the whole thing if you want to know the secrets of the universe:

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I can't view them on this device, but I believe it is the gravitational effect of the mass of the observer's body as it approaches the particle,that affects the behavior.

I could be wrong.
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Re: MIND BLOWING quantum physics states particles "know" when they are being watched by a conscious being and change their behaviors when viewed
Without a Conscious observer, all particles ONLY exist in an UNDETERMINED state of Probability.
Consciousness creates life, because without it, life cannot exist. The double slit experiment as well as other quantum physics experiments proves this. Quantum entanglement, shows us that time and space are not very relevant in the quantum world, when two particles on opposite sides of the galaxy can instantaneously communicate with one another and are tied together.
Bottom line is WE as conscious beings are central to this universe and the universe is dependent on us.. not the other way around as some mainstream scientists or atheists like to believe.

In the Picture below, your consciousness springs out of an eternal nothing..lives.. then back to that eternal nothing.. forever?
So it happened once.. who on this earth is to say it cannot happen over and over again .. infinitely.. in an infinite universe?
Can we really be so sure of a finite principle.. in an infinite universe?

Concsiousness cannot come from Nothingess.. it has to come from SOMETHING..
Hence it comes from more Concsiousness.
So consciousness is NOT created by the brain.. the brain is created by Concsiousness.
You can be AWARE that you exist..or UNaware that you exist..
But ..
Can you be AWare that you do NOT exist.. no
Can you be Unaware that you do NOT exist.. no
because both of these notions imply that there is something .. to be aware or unaware.
It's paradoxical. Cannot happen. Think.. An irresistable force meets an unmovable object.

You can have light without dark, good without evil, or full without empty..
You cannot have nothingness without somethingness.

Hence.. you will ALWAYS exist..because it's the only way to exist.
Essentially, if there is 100% nothing (no consciousness therefore no form) then it is impossible for some-thing to happen. What would there be to make it happen? That is eternal death. Therefore, such a no-thing has never existed because if it did, we wouldn't be here now. And conversely because we are here now, that in itself is proof that we have been alive infinitely backwards.
It's impossible for the brain to give rise to consciousness, because the brain can only exist if there is a witness. The brain (and all form) can only exist if it was created. Only "aliveness" can create. How can death (non-existence) create? Here, we have forms. We have our bodies, our brain, our minds, and the universe. Where did it come from? Did it come from non-existence? How can forms come out of something which doesn't exist? If non-existence is the case, then non-existence would be the case forever and we and all forms wouldn't be here, period. But because we are here, then that imples an aliveness, something which is intelligent and can create. There is no in between. There is either infinite non-existence, or there is infinite existence, and the later is obvously the truth because we are alive now. Because how can non-existence create form? How can non-existence create the multiverse? No matter how you cut it, the foundation of form can only be consciousness. Consciousness (life, intelligence) is the prerequisite for anything to exist.

Infinite life is STILL the case. Go look at the monty python quote above.

If at the deepest level it makes no sense, then the small parts will not fit.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!

Death certainly cannot exist.
The universe is consciousness made manifest (existence)
therefore there cannot exist within it a state
of unconsciousness (nonexistence).
There might be a universe somewhere which is
made of unconsciousness, but of course it wouldn't
exist, because if it did, that would mean there was
something to be conscious of it existing which would
bring it into conscious existence...
Death cannot exist because death implies unconsciousness,
and unless consciousness is present, there is no existence.


What if an individual is born out of the "no-thingness" only once? Does this undermine the proposal??
NO.. you cant be born out of it only once otherwise you would have to logically conclude you were born out of nothing(once) which turns the atheist argument on its head. once you grasp it, it means you were never born and you never die because the middle section with the line is the only section that exists.

feel it out
Something must be eternal
If nothing is eternal then all is temporal
If all is temporal then all had a beginning
If all had a beginning then being(existence) came into being from non-being(nothingness)
Being from non-being(existence from nothingness) is absurd. It is logically impossible.
This is sufficient to prove that something must be eternal.

If the temporal exists then it logically must derive its existence from the eternal(logically prior)
Therefore the eternal created the temporal.
What is eternal is outside of time by definition, immaterial(as the qualities of matter cannot contain the qualities of the infinite, i.e. infinite size can not exist , etc) and created time and the temporal world.

Conclusion: God defined as an eternal creator spirit must exist..

Either you have infinite consciousness, or you have infinite no-consciousness. An in-between is impossible. And therefore because we are conscious HERE AND NOW, it is impossible to no longer be conscious. It was never born nor will it ever die. What would be it's threat? No-consciousness doesn't exist to threaten it. And if no-conscousness were possible, it would already be the case right now. This wouldn't be happening right now.
When we are born we come from "no place", and yet we exist. There is really no reason to expect that cant happen again.

Space and time are tools of our mind.. they are useful tools, but they do not actually exist.
You cannot put time in a bottle.
Analogies for time would be ... Perceiving the world as flat..
In an all encompassing universe.. time means very little. All may exist as once..and your concsiousness is like a surfer riding a wave.. the other waves in the ocean exist simultaneously, but the surfer is experiencing only one wave that he chooses to ride.
Like songs on a record.. wherever the needle is placed.. is what one will hear.. but the other songs are still there.
Double slit experiment fits in with this.
The idea that we are standing right on top of all of time is a silly idea.

The idea of no birth and no death, the idea of only present manifestation and the continuation of life, can be explained using Thich Nhat Hanh's analogy of a cloud. When one looks at a cloud he or she might respond, "It is there," or it is being. Later, after it has rained, one might see the cloud dissipate, and say "there is not a cloud", or it is nonbeing. Yet if one looks deeply he sees the cloud is still present. A cloud is simply condensed water vapor, and therefore it is impossible for it to die in essence. It can become rain, snow, or gas, or it simply changes in its state of matter. It is impossible for it to be nothing. This is why the something cannot become nothing. This is why the notion or assumption of death cannot be applied to reality.

Read more from a Harvard Neuroscientist, Robert Lanza who is pioneering new ideas on this subject..and challenging the mainstream views here:
[link to www.robertlanza.com]
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Re: MIND BLOWING quantum physics states particles "know" when they are being watched by a conscious being and change their behaviors when viewed
I can't view them on this device, but I believe it is the gravitational effect of the mass of the observer's body as it approaches the particle,that affects the behavior.

I could be wrong.
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yes.. you're pretty much wrong.. not even close.

You have a lot to learn. :)
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I can't view them on this device, but I believe it is the gravitational effect of the mass of the observer's body as it approaches the particle,that affects the behavior.

I could be wrong.
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yes.. you're pretty much wrong.. not even close.

You have a lot to learn. :)
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yea, just keep watching youtube videos all day like this tard then you will find the 'truth'.
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It's clear that consciousness creates reality. It's also clear that all things are conscious to a lesser or greater extent.
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I can't view them on this device, but I believe it is the gravitational effect of the mass of the observer's body as it approaches the particle,that affects the behavior.

I could be wrong.
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there you have it, a 100-year old science problem solved by a GLP member afro
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I really don't think the universe is that complicated, much of this quantum stuff seems to have been postulated to explain observations, that light seems to 'mysteriously' be a wave and a particle at the same time.

Similarly they have had to invent dark matter and energy to explain why their theories don't account for astronomical observations.


The Primer fields (3) theory and experiments - demonstrate very nicely how a single photon is capable of interfering with itself as it passes through a double slit, without being either a wave or particle - and is able to account for galaxy, nebulae, stellar and planetary formations - without the need for black holes even.
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I can't view them on this device, but I believe it is the gravitational effect of the mass of the observer's body as it approaches the particle,that affects the behavior.

I could be wrong.
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yes.. you're pretty much wrong.. not even close.

You have a lot to learn. :)
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yea, just keep watching youtube videos all day like this tard then you will find the 'truth'.
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I don't need to watch a video to know you're a dumbfuck.. so why would you infer that I watched a video to gain the knowledge I have about this subject??
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I really don't think the universe is that complicated, much of this quantum stuff seems to have been postulated to explain observations, that light seems to 'mysteriously' be a wave and a particle at the same time.

Similarly they have had to invent dark matter and energy to explain why their theories don't account for astronomical observations.


The Primer fields (3) theory and experiments - demonstrate very nicely how a single photon is capable of interfering with itself as it passes through a double slit, without being either a wave or particle - and is able to account for galaxy, nebulae, stellar and planetary formations - without the need for black holes even.
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Another yahoo who has no friggin clue.. yet trys to pretend they do.

Geesh. You do realize you're not even close right?
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I can't view them on this device, but I believe it is the gravitational effect of the mass of the observer's body as it approaches the particle,that affects the behavior.

I could be wrong.
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Sorry, cute one, but gravity is the weakest of the 4 forces. If anything it is the strongest force, electromagnetic, but given the simulation theory, I am going to go with conscious observation...based on the weirdness I have seen lately.
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I really don't think the universe is that complicated, much of this quantum stuff seems to have been postulated to explain observations, that light seems to 'mysteriously' be a wave and a particle at the same time.

Similarly they have had to invent dark matter and energy to explain why their theories don't account for astronomical observations.


The Primer fields (3) theory and experiments - demonstrate very nicely how a single photon is capable of interfering with itself as it passes through a double slit, without being either a wave or particle - and is able to account for galaxy, nebulae, stellar and planetary formations - without the need for black holes even.
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Another yahoo who has no friggin clue.. yet trys to pretend they do.

Geesh. You do realize you're not even close right?
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You are an arrogant asshole aren't you!

Fine - believe that cats in a box are neither dead nor alive until you open it, some of us know pretentious nonesense when we see it!
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I really don't think the universe is that complicated, much of this quantum stuff seems to have been postulated to explain observations, that light seems to 'mysteriously' be a wave and a particle at the same time.

Similarly they have had to invent dark matter and energy to explain why their theories don't account for astronomical observations.


The Primer fields (3) theory and experiments - demonstrate very nicely how a single photon is capable of interfering with itself as it passes through a double slit, without being either a wave or particle - and is able to account for galaxy, nebulae, stellar and planetary formations - without the need for black holes even.
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Another yahoo who has no friggin clue.. yet trys to pretend they do.

Geesh. You do realize you're not even close right?
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You are an arrogant asshole aren't you!

Fine - believe that cats in a box are neither dead nor alive until you open it, some of us know pretentious nonesense when we see it!
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You're just not getting it.. not your fault I guess. You just need to educate yourself.
Google biocentrism, and that will allow you to be a little more informed before you speak.

The cat isn't alive or dead until you view it..it's not a belief, it's a simple truth. I don't know how to explain it to you in just a single paragraph.
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I hate being so smart that I can't even explain it.
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What kind of particles are man made of? Don't most people know when they are being watched? I do always have.
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Re: MIND BLOWING quantum physics states particles "know" when they are being watched by a conscious being and change their behaviors when viewed
Quantum theory says that atoms know when they are being watched by a conscious being, and they change their behavior when you watch them, then revert back to normal behavaior when your eyes are closed ITS COMPLICATED. WATCH WATCH WATCH the whole thing if you want to know the secrets of the universe:


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Amazing OP! Thank you for this!
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It's clear that consciousness creates reality. It's also clear that all things are conscious to a lesser or greater extent.
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Yes but here is the real question.

Is our consciousness, simply the sum of the atomic + cellular consciousness grouped together from our body?

So in a sense, are each one of us simply a collective of trillions of trillions of atomic consciousnesses simply working together in unison to form who we think we are?
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I really don't think the universe is that complicated, much of this quantum stuff seems to have been postulated to explain observations, that light seems to 'mysteriously' be a wave and a particle at the same time.

Similarly they have had to invent dark matter and energy to explain why their theories don't account for astronomical observations.


The Primer fields (3) theory and experiments - demonstrate very nicely how a single photon is capable of interfering with itself as it passes through a double slit, without being either a wave or particle - and is able to account for galaxy, nebulae, stellar and planetary formations - without the need for black holes even.
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Another yahoo who has no friggin clue.. yet trys to pretend they do.

Geesh. You do realize you're not even close right?
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You are an arrogant asshole aren't you!

Fine - believe that cats in a box are neither dead nor alive until you open it, some of us know pretentious nonesense when we see it!
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You're just not getting it.. not your fault I guess. You just need to educate yourself.
Google biocentrism, and that will allow you to be a little more informed before you speak.

The cat isn't alive or dead until you view it..it's not a belief, it's a simple truth. I don't know how to explain it to you in just a single paragraph.
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Look you little wanker I was studying quantum theory before you were born - I was young and stupid then and just sucked it all in, presumed all the grand old men of physics must know what they were speaking off - but after a lifetime of experience and commonsense and watching the farce that modern physics and cosmology has become - I know bullshit when I see it!
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Quantum physics showing that our thoughts create our reality. Good info on through the wormhole too, Morgan freeman narrates.

Yes particles react to observation.
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Another yahoo who has no friggin clue.. yet trys to pretend they do.

Geesh. You do realize you're not even close right?
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You are an arrogant asshole aren't you!

Fine - believe that cats in a box are neither dead nor alive until you open it, some of us know pretentious nonesense when we see it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47633046


You're just not getting it.. not your fault I guess. You just need to educate yourself.
Google biocentrism, and that will allow you to be a little more informed before you speak.

The cat isn't alive or dead until you view it..it's not a belief, it's a simple truth. I don't know how to explain it to you in just a single paragraph.
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Look you little wanker I was studying quantum theory before you were born - I was young and stupid then and just sucked it all in, presumed all the grand old men of physics must know what they were speaking off - but after a lifetime of experience and commonsense and watching the farce that modern physics and cosmology has become - I know bullshit when I see it!
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I agree with you, AC. You want proof. Put the cat in the box and leave it for a good long time. When you open it to find a maggoty corpse you will know that the cat wasnt both alove and dead the whole time, lol. It will have clearly died in the past, and science can measure the time of death and find out that it happened not when the cat was observed. Quantum physics wants me to believe that the "universe" not only is aware that we are opening the box, but will also decide to pick a random time in the past to pretend the cat died in order to show us decay.
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oooh damnit! I spent forever typing out my thoughts on this video only to have it disappear. I gues the universe didnt like my thoughts. I will try again, impatiently now.
quantum physics is the fairy tale world of science, IMHO. The marble never passes through both openings. ever. an object cannot be in two places at one time. I postulate that te marbles are instead rinding on waves, and it is the waves that, by their nature, pass through the openings at the same time, and any particle small enough to have its momentum affected by the wave is going to show movement patterns consistent with waves. And yes, when we use instrumentation to try to measure this, we do affect the motion of the marbles, or indeed the waves themselves. It only works in a natural state.
The universe does not "know' i am observing it. That is just theory, fancy talk. For example. My husband is not observing me right now. From his perspective I am both awake and asleep. He does not know which until he joins me and can see me. BUT, I am most definitely awake. I am sitting here, awake. Forget that my awakeness is being witnessed by you guys by seeing what I am typing. I was also awake a few minutes ago watching a video, unobserved. The lack of observation does not make me exist in some sort of suspended multi-state.
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Quantum physics showing that our thoughts create our reality. Good info on through the wormhole too, Morgan freeman narrates.

Yes particles react to observation.
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I disagree - I say that observation affects particles.
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Just keep in mind when a tree falls in the woods, it DOES NOT MAKE A SOUND, unless someone is there to hear it.
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them jews fucked up the scienterrific world with that there magic think
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Just keep in mind when a tree falls in the woods, it DOES NOT MAKE A SOUND, unless someone is there to hear it.
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That is only because SOUND is what we call what happens when waves hit eardrums. So no eardrums - no sound. However the wave is still there - the wave does not know there are no eardrums.
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You are an arrogant asshole aren't you!

Fine - believe that cats in a box are neither dead nor alive until you open it, some of us know pretentious nonesense when we see it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47633046


You're just not getting it.. not your fault I guess. You just need to educate yourself.
Google biocentrism, and that will allow you to be a little more informed before you speak.

The cat isn't alive or dead until you view it..it's not a belief, it's a simple truth. I don't know how to explain it to you in just a single paragraph.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44284998


Look you little wanker I was studying quantum theory before you were born - I was young and stupid then and just sucked it all in, presumed all the grand old men of physics must know what they were speaking off - but after a lifetime of experience and commonsense and watching the farce that modern physics and cosmology has become - I know bullshit when I see it!
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I agree with you, AC. You want proof. Put the cat in the box and leave it for a good long time. When you open it to find a maggoty corpse you will know that the cat wasnt both alove and dead the whole time, lol. It will have clearly died in the past, and science can measure the time of death and find out that it happened not when the cat was observed. Quantum physics wants me to believe that the "universe" not only is aware that we are opening the box, but will also decide to pick a random time in the past to pretend the cat died in order to show us decay.
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Another one who just isn't getting it..
You guys just need to get off this thread before you contribute any more stupidity to it than you already have.

Nothing is anything until a conscious being observes it.. because the universe exists in our brain only.

The entire world is made up of light.. and "solid" matter is actually 99.999 percent empty space. Without a conscious being to take in the light and make form of it in our brain..everything, including the cat, it is just a bunch of emptiness existing as potential.

You guys need to go do some thinking , and reading before you start talking. It just makes you look dumb.

I will repeat EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE SPEAKING!!!
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Quantum physics showing that our thoughts create our reality. Good info on through the wormhole too, Morgan freeman narrates.

Yes particles react to observation.
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your on the right track, but wrong in saying particles react to observation..

Particles don't react to observation .. they exist FROM observation.
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What kind of particles are man made of? Don't most people know when they are being watched? I do always have.
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You know Rupert Sheldrake? He is a biologist who has been trying to research these sorts of phenomena.





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