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Top 10 Ways GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN will affect you. - NO TRASH COLLECTION IN D.C.

 
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Various snips in text below to get to payoff # 2.
I may have slanted the meaning somewhat. Or not.


[link to kfor.com]
But what would a shutdown mean for you? Would your daily life be affected?

Shutdown showdown: How it plays out this week

Here are 10 ways a government shutdown would affect you.

10. Vacation all I ever wanted: Need to get away? Well, you can’t. At least not to national parks. Or to national zoos. Or to national museums. They’d all be closed.

Were you thinking more along the lines of a trip to France? If you don’t already have a passport, you might have to bid that adieu — you might not get your blue book in time.

9. Holiday. Celebrate: Don’t come to work if you’re a federal employee. You’re on furlough. (Offer not valid for workers in “critical services,” such as air traffic controllers, hazardous waste handlers and food inspectors.)

Do take some time to celebrate. In previous shutdowns, everyone who stayed home was paid retroactively after peace returned to Washington.

8. I won’t back down: The good news (for you) is that the men and women in uniform would continue to keep you safe.
Rep. C.W. Young, chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, told the Air Force Times, “All military personnel will continue to serve and accrue pay but will not actually be paid until appropriations are available.”

7. If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street: You may be thinking, “No functioning government, no need to pay taxes.” Think again. The Man would continue to collect taxes. U.S. bonds would still be issued. And other essential banking functions would go on.

6. Wait a minute, Mr. Postman: You know that whole “Neither snow, nor rain, nor heat, nor gloom of night” thing? Apparently, the U.S. Postal Service works through shutdowns as well. Sorry, you won’t catch a break from the junk mail. But hey, you may already be a winner!

5. I want a new drug: Oh, the irony. The Republicans want to defund Obamacare in exchange for funding the government. But the health care act at the center of this storm would continue its implementation process during a shutdown. That’s because its funds aren’t dependent on the congressional budget process.

4. Pass the ammunition: Not so fast. A shutdown would affect the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

3. Money (that’s what I want): Well, if you own a small business and needed a loan from the government, you’d have to wait. If you were planning to buy a house and needed a federal loan, you’d have to wait. If you’re a veteran, you might have to make a few trips to the mailbox before that check arrived.

If you’re on Social Security, however, don’t worry — probably. Social Security payments were sent during the last shutdown. President Obama’s expected to keep workers on the payroll to process checks.

2. Anything dirty or dingy or dusty: Oscar the Grouch is a company of one. No one loves trash. But if you live in Washington, expect it to pile up if there’s a shutdown. There wouldn’t be anyone to collect your garbage. Washington’s budget has to be approved by Congress. No budget for the city = no trash collection. And, according to The Washington Post, D.C. produces about 500 tons of garbage each week.

1. I’m proud to be an American: Perhaps the biggest hit would be to the collective psyche. America is the largest economy in the world and a beacon for how democracy ought to work.

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another article on the horrors of the Government shutdown.
Still have not found anything all that upsetting to what I consider the average person.
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
I'm especially happy that meat inspectors will stay on the job.
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If the trash had been collected JUST ONCE in D.C. we wouldnt be in this position now.
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Governmental shutdowns are bullshit, they never amount to anything!
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

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More Horror!
[link to thehill.com]
Nearly three quarters of White House employees would be furloughed during a government shutdown, according to a contingency plan created by the administration.

According to a letter prepared for the Office of Management and Budget, some 1,265 White House employees would be sent home if lawmakers are unable to strike an agreement Monday to keep the government open. Approximately 436 presidential staffers would be designated as exempt and continue working despite a shutdown.

Exempted employees would include 129 in the White House office, as well as 15 members to provide for the care and maintenance of the executive mansion itself.


Vice President Joe Biden, meanwhile, would keep aboard 12 staff members and one additional person to tend to his residence at the Naval Observatory.

But other offices — including the National Security Staff — would maintain bigger presences despite the possible shutdown. The NSS is expected to ask 42 employees to keep coming to work...

The Office of National Drug Control Policy would keep eight staffers, while the Office of Science and Technology Policy would have just 7 to provide the president with any emergency scientific or technical advice.


The letter did not detail whether unpaid interns would continue coming to work during a shutdown, although they did continue to staff the White House during a shutdodwn in the 1990s. END.

Nota Bene : My comment - Yes, remember the Intern activity of the Clinton shutdown?
Whoohooo ....pizza parties.....pass the cigars...or something...
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[link to www.usatoday.com]
Tedious and long article, 66 points Q & A, but still no direct affect on the average person.
here are a few of note:
21. What about campers already in the parks? They will be given two days to leave
49. I'm being audited by the IRS. Would a shutdown affect me? Yes. The IRS will suspend all audit activities.

ESPECIALLY EGREGIOUS -
57. Would Congress continue to be paid during a shutdown? Yes. The 27th Amendment to the Constitution, ratified in 1992, holds that "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened." Intended to prevent Congress from voting itself a raise, it also protects members from a pay cut.
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gov shutdown is BS

OBAMA is an amateur

IMPEACH
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If the trash had been collected JUST ONCE in D.C. we wouldnt be in this position now.
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Yes! This is our chance to kick more TRASH to the curb.
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Does this mean they will not have any money for more wars and no money to blow up babies?
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Does this mean they will not have any money for more wars and no money to blow up babies?
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I imagine there is a special account for that.
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Does this mean they will not have any money for more wars and no money to blow up babies?
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Not finding an exact answer to this one - but to be sure, it will likely be a slower process.

Military always finds a way.
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They should kept it shut down until the unconstitutional fraud obama is removed from office and prosecuted for high crimes and treason. His enablers should be dealt with also with the full weight of the law.
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There won't be a shutdown. It should happen, but it won't.
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Governmental shutdowns are bullshit, they never amount to anything!
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True. Isn't that the point?
I take amusement in reading all this info and seeing just how many people in the Government can be considered NON ESSENTIAL.
Maybe that is what it amounts to. An admission of non essential.
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[link to nationalreview.com] /359908/not-actually-shutdown-hans-von-spakoovsky
Not Actually a Shutdown: So little changes that DOJ says it’s “an entirely inaccurate description.”
The hysterical fears about the effects of a government “shutdown” being voiced by many in Washington, such as Senator Tom Harkin (D., Iowa), who claims it is “as dangerous as the break-up of the Union before the Civil War,” are almost comical.

The truth from the experience of prior shutdowns, applicable federal laws, Justice Department legal opinions, and Office of Management and Budget (OMB) directives, is that crucial government services and benefits would continue without interruption even if Congress fails to agree on a continuing resolution (CR) or President Obama vetoes it. That includes all services essential for national security and public safety — such as the military and law enforcement — as well as mandatory government payments such as Social Security and veterans’ benefits..
end

Almost Comical?
more from above:

So planes, trains, and automobiles will keep running and TSA will keep patting you down. The president can continue to go on overseas trips to conduct foreign relations. Social Security and Medicaid benefits will keep going out. The Border Patrol will keep patrolling our borders to prevent illegal crossings (at least as much as this administration will let it do that). The Federal Bureau of Prisons will keep convicted criminals in prison and the FBI will continue making arrests and investigating violations of the law...
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Wake up sheeple.
Do we really need the Federal Government as it exists now??
Government is a monster.
We must shrink it.
Sequester was to be the end of the world as we know it.
A 3% reduction.
Are we ok?
Lets shut this monster down forever.
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OMG we can't visit the Grand Canyon.

OMG we have TRASH piling up in Wahington D.C.
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More Horror!
[link to thehill.com]
Nearly three quarters of White House employees would be furloughed during a government shutdown, according to a contingency plan created by the administration.

According to a letter prepared for the Office of Management and Budget, some 1,265 White House employees would be sent home if lawmakers are unable to strike an agreement Monday to keep the government open. Approximately 436 presidential staffers would be designated as exempt and continue working despite a shutdown.

Exempted employees would include 129 in the White House office, as well as 15 members to provide for the care and maintenance of the executive mansion itself.


Vice President Joe Biden, meanwhile, would keep aboard 12 staff members and one additional person to tend to his residence at the Naval Observatory.

But other offices — including the National Security Staff — would maintain bigger presences despite the possible shutdown. The NSS is expected to ask 42 employees to keep coming to work...

The Office of National Drug Control Policy would keep eight staffers, while the Office of Science and Technology Policy would have just 7 to provide the president with any emergency scientific or technical advice.


The letter did not detail whether unpaid interns would continue coming to work during a shutdown, although they did continue to staff the White House during a shutdodwn in the 1990s. END.

Nota Bene : My comment - Yes, remember the Intern activity of the Clinton shutdown?
Whoohooo ....pizza parties.....pass the cigars...or something...
1dunno1
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Moochele gonna have to fix her own Gin n Juice ?
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maybe.
we can only hope.
hope
hope and change.
lets change.
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Is this like watching World Wrestling?
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Governmental shutdowns are bullshit, they never amount to anything!
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That's precisely why Congress is trying to avoid one.
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More Horror!
[link to thehill.com]
Nearly three quarters of White House employees would be furloughed during a government shutdown, according to a contingency plan created by the administration.

According to a letter prepared for the Office of Management and Budget, some 1,265 White House employees would be sent home if lawmakers are unable to strike an agreement Monday to keep the government open. Approximately 436 presidential staffers would be designated as exempt and continue working despite a shutdown.

Exempted employees would include 129 in the White House office, as well as 15 members to provide for the care and maintenance of the executive mansion itself.


Vice President Joe Biden, meanwhile, would keep aboard 12 staff members and one additional person to tend to his residence at the Naval Observatory.

But other offices — including the National Security Staff — would maintain bigger presences despite the possible shutdown. The NSS is expected to ask 42 employees to keep coming to work...

The Office of National Drug Control Policy would keep eight staffers, while the Office of Science and Technology Policy would have just 7 to provide the president with any emergency scientific or technical advice.


The letter did not detail whether unpaid interns would continue coming to work during a shutdown, although they did continue to staff the White House during a shutdodwn in the 1990s. END.

Nota Bene : My comment - Yes, remember the Intern activity of the Clinton shutdown?
Whoohooo ....pizza parties.....pass the cigars...or something...
1dunno1
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Moochele gonna have to fix her own Gin n Juice ?
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No, that is an essential gov't program.
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So we are trapped here like caged animals-no passports? We will be like cuban refugees :(
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So we are trapped here like caged animals-no passports? We will be like cuban refugees :(
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yes, the horror of it!
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Top 10 Ways GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN will affect you.
Yes a top 10 list - one of best - NO TRASH COLLECTION IN D.C.
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agumball rant agumball

senators
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Top 10 Ways GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN will affect you.
Yes a top 10 list - one of best - NO TRASH COLLECTION IN D.C.
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agumball rant agumball

:senators:
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omg. love it. thank you. hf
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Sunday pay, and more...

[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

A federal government shutdown will temporarily cut off pay of thousands of Uncle Sam’s workers, but for those considered “excepted employees,” there could be a nice salary bump thanks to rules allowing overtime, compensatory time and other benefits provided to those the administration feels too important to furlough

But for those called in to work, the guide reveals they will be eligible for extra pay. “Excepted employees who meet the conditions for overtime pay, Sunday premium pay, night pay, availability pay and other premium payments will be entitled to payment in accordance with applicable rules, subject to any relevant payment limitations,” said the guide.

Comp time is also available, said the guide.

And while current federal workers might see their pay cut, retirees won’t. “Federal retirees,” said the guide, “will still receive their scheduled annuity payments on the first business day of the month
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This won't affect me at all
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This won't affect me at all
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Karma to you for being a GENIUS!
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I wish Brief would comment.
He always gets a few replies.
Help me Brief, help me.
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This won't affect me at all
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Same here.
We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN!
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