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I am not convinced by any means. I have to go look again at the picture referenced, but if it is the one that Astromut magnified to the point of distortion then you and others are 100% calling Eric a lier.

 Quoting: Bluepill


Bluepill:

Here is the photo:

[link to imageshack.us]

Take a look AT ANY MAGNIFICATION.

Is the "planet" (lens flare) in front or behind the power line?
Be honest.

Is this really debatable?
 Quoting: Setheory 48520258


wow bluepill, now I know what you are talking about - I must have missed this when you posted it the first time ... that is fantastic ! ... never EVER seen a "lens-flare" that looked like that - and I have seen a ton of them ... of course the "experts" would HAVE to say that ... we can expect nothing less - from individuals in DENIAL
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


Wow, this thread is getting more bizarre by the minute.

What is fantastic about that photo?

If I had to give someone a typical example of a lens flare, this would be at the top of the list.

SunnyDaze, do you see the lens flare in front of OR behind the power line?

Will you answer?

Anyone?
 Quoting: Setheory 48520258


what I see, is an independent light source, so strong, that it has created its own flares (trails going up and left) and has overwhelmed our view of the wire ... of course it is behind the wire - IMO

I suggest that you go look a a "typical lens flare" in a photography website ... they don't look anything like this - most of them are PINK and repeated - like the faint ones you can see surrounding the sun in this shot ... and trailing behind the other light source ....

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Bluepill:

Here is the photo:

[link to imageshack.us]

Take a look AT ANY MAGNIFICATION.

Is the "planet" (lens flare) in front or behind the power line?
Be honest.

Is this really debatable?
 Quoting: Setheory 48520258


wow bluepill, now I know what you are talking about - I must have missed this when you posted it the first time ... that is fantastic ! ... never EVER seen a "lens-flare" that looked like that - and I have seen a ton of them ... of course the "experts" would HAVE to say that ... we can expect nothing less - from individuals in DENIAL
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


Wow, this thread is getting more bizarre by the minute.

What is fantastic about that photo?

If I had to give someone a typical example of a lens flare, this would be at the top of the list.

SunnyDaze, do you see the lens flare in front of OR behind the power line?

Will you answer?

Anyone?
 Quoting: Setheory 48520258


what I see, is an independent light source, so strong, that it has created its own flares (trails going up and left) and has overwhelmed our view of the wire ... of course it is behind the wire - IMO
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


bigcruise



REALLY? THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE?
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first they laugh
then they ridicule
then they fight
and then you win ... ghandi

patience PAYS ... some other guru

the collective mind (of even two idiots) surpasses the mind of one single individual ... Sunny Daze

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first they laugh
then they ridicule
then they fight
and then you win ... ghandi
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


What exactly are you trying to win here?


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(new) Unknown Glowing Light In Evening Western Sky

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first they laugh
then they ridicule
then they fight
and then you win ... ghandi
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


What exactly are you trying to win here?


glpaward
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the right to my own opinion - and to share intuitive intelligence - collectively
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(newer) Multi-Colored UFO In Western Florida Skies October 17, 2013

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UAP, actually it was your "god" who channeled a message to one of his organic portals (aka John the Revelator) about this same "star" which he called "worm-wood" ... apparently you are also a self-made slave of the so-called "god of this world" - which makes me wonder why you object so strongly to the evidence that this "prophesy" is coming true

I choose to believe that any "advanced" species, with a universal perspective of our solar system, could have predicted this event - and since your "god" obviously doesn't live here - or care about this species - and is just in it for the power trip and Earth's resources, he is an ET.

obviously he does't have OUR best interest in mind at all - and the more you pray to him - the worse things get.

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Re: There REALLY IS something strange in western sky around sunset...!!!
actually it was your "god" who channeled a message to one of his organic portals (aka John the Revelator) about this same "star" which he called "worm-wood" ... apparently you are also a self-made slave of the so-called "god of this world" - which makes me wonder why you object so strongly to the evidence that this "prophesy" is coming true

I choose to believe that any "advanced" species, with a universal perspective of our solar system, could have predicted this event - and since your "god" obviously doesn't live here - or care about this species - and is just in it for the power trip and Earth's resources, he is an ET.

obviously he does't have OUR best interest in mind at all - and the more you pray to him - the worse things get.
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


SO now the "strange, unnamed, ambiguous, possibly celestial body, possibly contrail, possibly lens flare, possibly whatever, "I am just seeking evidence" is the book of Revelation's Wormwood? Please explain to me the OTHER seals that have been fulfilled, before this 6th one, and how exactly that has happened, with evidence?

Or are those seals yet to come, before this "Wormwood" in the western sky collides with Earth, killing 1/3 of all life in the waters? Do you have a timetable? Thanks in advance SD...
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This thread is too long to quote unnecessarily. Here is a copy of the poster who emailed to get pics (clearly an attempt to get pics that I had not and have not posted--I have LOTS). Now you can understand the "progressive release of information" technique I implored.

Here is the unsolicited request email:

Raymantheheretic .
To Me
Oct 14 at 1:09 PM
I would appreciate if you would e-mail me some of the pics you have of the mysterious celestial object.

Thanks in advance,

Quentin

The thread continued until "Quentin" used profane language and was duly dismissed.

Also, here are the 4 pictures that NOBODY has explained away. Someone mentioned the links didn't work. No surprise there.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is relevant b/c this is an illustration of the Winged Planet we are seeing. Make note of CLEAR and OBVIOUS "upward turn of the wings". This is important b/c in another picture they couldn't handle, you will clearly see this feature, not the "circle in a circle" lens flare garbage. Important b/c clearly this illustration isn't a "circle around a circle"

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is the picture they won't even touch. Look at 3 UNIQUE things:

a) Winged Planet has WINGS not "circle in a circle"
b) Trailing object (moon, dust cloud, whatever) is present and is NOT on the same vector line
c) There is exactly ONE tail of debris...and yes, I think that is the greatest threat...When this thing starts its way "back home" I suspect this tail could be problematic.

At any rate a, b, c are the ONLY objects like themselves in the picture and they are on NO VECTOR LINE. If anyone can reproduce this with a, b, c AND the sun and the horizon all in the pick, JUST DO IT. Furthermore, if ANYONE can even find a Google Image to match, JUST DO IT.

Note: Can someone scale to size the Winged Planet from my real pic and drop it on top of the illustration to show the match? Then drop one of those "circle in a circle" on top to show the fraudulent attempt to call them the same.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: They wouldn't even acknowledge the picture. To be clear, there are only 2 objects in the sky in this picture:

a) Our Moon--is above the tall street light
b) Winged Planet--Much brighter object, above 3 sets of lights. Much closer to the horizon than anything in the sky.

Note: I have been stopping at that traffic light for 11 years. For 4+ years I have watched this planet from that intersection. The only changes have been: closer/lower to the horizon and is now captured by my camera (previously 12 - 18 months could see it easily, but wouldn't show up)

For Google Map/Sky users--the intersection has these public landmarks (CVS Pharmacy @ 895 Holcomb Bridge Rd, Roswell, GA 30076 and Holiday Inn @ 909 Holcomb Bridge Rd Roswell, GA 30076)

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This one started the unraveling that we are seeing. I photographed the planet while looking right at it (that's why it is in good focus). However, b/c the object had JUST ARRIVED in the SW sky (I was waiting b/c my sons have played football there for 13 years combined--including the last 4 years and I know she comes above the goalpost). This picture confused the government agents b/c they didn't know what to respond to. I waited for people to say they didn't see anything BEFORE I told them to zoom over goalposts. Once they did, they were stuck. SINGLE BRIGHT object in the SW sky shortly after sunset matching worldwide sightings and shot less than a week ago. What could they say? Kudos to Setheory, "he said maybe a planet, but I need more info". Read that again. Which planet, Setheory. You said "maybe a planet", but just not the planet everyone is seeing at the same relative time of evening in the same sky space. To call that logically flawed is the greatest compliment I could give Setheory. That is delusional and by itself enough reason to substantiate his government status. His work buddy (either Geo or Boxer, I believe...as I don't really distinguish them), said that it was stadium lighting. You know the "new" LEVITATING kind. Nevermind, the planet is not emitting rays/flares as a light in the night AlWAYS will. Kudos to Astro, he is clearly their front guy, he has never acknowledged that picture or his fondness of EarthSky.org.
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This thread is too long to quote unnecessarily. Here is a copy of the poster who emailed to get pics (clearly an attempt to get pics that I had not and have not posted--I have LOTS). Now you can understand the "progressive release of information" technique I implored.

Here is the unsolicited request email:

Raymantheheretic .
To Me
Oct 14 at 1:09 PM
I would appreciate if you would e-mail me some of the pics you have of the mysterious celestial object.

Thanks in advance,

Quentin

The thread continued until "Quentin" used profane language and was duly dismissed.

Also, here are the 4 pictures that NOBODY has explained away. Someone mentioned the links didn't work. No surprise there.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is relevant b/c this is an illustration of the Winged Planet we are seeing. Make note of CLEAR and OBVIOUS "upward turn of the wings". This is important b/c in another picture they couldn't handle, you will clearly see this feature, not the "circle in a circle" lens flare garbage. Important b/c clearly this illustration isn't a "circle around a circle"

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is the picture they won't even touch. Look at 3 UNIQUE things:

a) Winged Planet has WINGS not "circle in a circle"
b) Trailing object (moon, dust cloud, whatever) is present and is NOT on the same vector line
c) There is exactly ONE tail of debris...and yes, I think that is the greatest threat...When this thing starts its way "back home" I suspect this tail could be problematic.

At any rate a, b, c are the ONLY objects like themselves in the picture and they are on NO VECTOR LINE. If anyone can reproduce this with a, b, c AND the sun and the horizon all in the pick, JUST DO IT. Furthermore, if ANYONE can even find a Google Image to match, JUST DO IT.

Note: Can someone scale to size the Winged Planet from my real pic and drop it on top of the illustration to show the match? Then drop one of those "circle in a circle" on top to show the fraudulent attempt to call them the same.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: They wouldn't even acknowledge the picture. To be clear, there are only 2 objects in the sky in this picture:

a) Our Moon--is above the tall street light
b) Winged Planet--Much brighter object, above 3 sets of lights. Much closer to the horizon than anything in the sky.

Note: I have been stopping at that traffic light for 11 years. For 4+ years I have watched this planet from that intersection. The only changes have been: closer/lower to the horizon and is now captured by my camera (previously 12 - 18 months could see it easily, but wouldn't show up)

For Google Map/Sky users--the intersection has these public landmarks (CVS Pharmacy @ 895 Holcomb Bridge Rd, Roswell, GA 30076 and Holiday Inn @ 909 Holcomb Bridge Rd Roswell, GA 30076)

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This one started the unraveling that we are seeing. I photographed the planet while looking right at it (that's why it is in good focus). However, b/c the object had JUST ARRIVED in the SW sky (I was waiting b/c my sons have played football there for 13 years combined--including the last 4 years and I know she comes above the goalpost). This picture confused the government agents b/c they didn't know what to respond to. I waited for people to say they didn't see anything BEFORE I told them to zoom over goalposts. Once they did, they were stuck. SINGLE BRIGHT object in the SW sky shortly after sunset matching worldwide sightings and shot less than a week ago. What could they say? Kudos to Setheory, "he said maybe a planet, but I need more info". Read that again. Which planet, Setheory. You said "maybe a planet", but just not the planet everyone is seeing at the same relative time of evening in the same sky space. To call that logically flawed is the greatest compliment I could give Setheory. That is delusional and by itself enough reason to substantiate his government status. His work buddy (either Geo or Boxer, I believe...as I don't really distinguish them), said that it was stadium lighting. You know the "new" LEVITATING kind. Nevermind, the planet is not emitting rays/flares as a light in the night AlWAYS will. Kudos to Astro, he is clearly their front guy, he has never acknowledged that picture or his fondness of EarthSky.org.
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Go dig your own grave, this post is for the brian dead..

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New Sighting:

Location: Atlanta, GA
Date: 10/19/2013
Estimated time: 7:30pm - 8:05pm EST
Local Geographic Reference Point: Perimeter Mall
Type: Naked eye while driving
Skies: Mostly cloudy
Other Known/Recognized (by you) celestial objects seen: None (including moon)

Description: Drive 285W, to GA-400N, exit #6 Northridge Dr. North on Roswell Road/SR9, destination Roswell, GA 30075 (closest business/local landmark--Kids R Kids, 200 Pine Grove Road). While driving route indicated. Planet-like object easily spotted as soon as I go outside. SW sky, only visible object in the sky (moon notwithstanding). Watch for entire drive home. While traveling GA-400 N, could easily look back left (over the shoulder) and continue viewing (not recommending this driving style...all jokes aside, this can easily distract you while driving, others may be able to attest to the fact--be careful, folks). At destination, continued to watch while parked. Just above tree-line behind daycare. Watched until descent below trees.

Winesses/Reporting: Live phone call during sighting to Ret. USAF CMSgt (30+ years, Weather Ops). Witness reports sightings in Yorktown, VA area on several nights over some period of time. Witness will attempt to record sightings over the next 7 days and report findings. I will share if granted permission.
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Bluepill:

Here is the photo:

[link to imageshack.us]

Take a look AT ANY MAGNIFICATION.

Is the "planet" (lens flare) in front or behind the power line?
Be honest.

Is this really debatable?
 Quoting: Setheory 48520258


wow bluepill, now I know what you are talking about - I must have missed this when you posted it the first time ... that is fantastic ! ... never EVER seen a "lens-flare" that looked like that - and I have seen a ton of them ... of course the "experts" would HAVE to say that ... we can expect nothing less - from individuals in DENIAL
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


Wow, this thread is getting more bizarre by the minute.

What is fantastic about that photo?

If I had to give someone a typical example of a lens flare, this would be at the top of the list.

SunnyDaze, do you see the lens flare in front of OR behind the power line?

Will you answer?

Anyone?
 Quoting: Setheory 48520258


what I see, is an independent light source, so strong, that it has created its own flares (trails going up and left) and has overwhelmed our view of the wire ... of course it is behind the wire - IMO
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


wtfdid


Is this for real?

SuunyDaze, I just spoke up for you on the previous page, but that has to be one of the most bizarre observations I have ever seen. Did you even look at the photo?
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GLP'ers our job is almost done here. The government agents here are beyond desperate. Consider these things:

1) The government had a ZetaTalk "contact" come on the thread and post ONE message--3rd Eye E is bad. Never heard from ZetaTalk person ever again. Imagine that. 220 pages, one post from the group that the Government vilifies. Case closed on this piece.

2) Now, the government agents are claiming that I am one of them. Is that delusional or what? They planted me to fight with Setheory and post bogus pics. Case closed on this piece.

3) Item #2 was just newly introduced by Rayomagnetic or something like that. More on him later, including his Unsolicited email to me. And my response. Don't miss that.

4) Picture contoversy--I have provided pics from the ground, relevant because this planet is close to our horizon. 2 pics have been attacked and 8 - 9 ignored. The "Wire" pic was manipulated to INSTANTLY discredit me, but 220 pgs later it didn't work. Then I was accused of "photo-shopping" the "Winged Planet Picture". Besides patently false, with ZERO evidence to even support, this makes no sense. I manufactured a Winged Planet picture different THAN ANY IMAGE on Google. Different than ANY PICTURE of lens flare that ANYONE here has ever seen. But I couldn't photoshop my pictured which I suspect was photoshopped THEN magnified to a blur by Dr. Astro? Case closed on this piece.

5) Hypocrisy re: language--My formal apology to every person who has weathered this storm is forthcoming. But first this. The language used about a woman here was easily the most disgusting display of filth on the entire thread. Nobody called the government guy out for this. Ultimately Setheory was given the assignment of at least saying, he didn't agree with it. Well me cussing IN response to MEN who are cussing at me was a tactic I CHOSE to use to keep them engaged and to highlight their hypocrisy. Tactical or not, I will be apologizing to all. And the thread I have started, has ZERO profanity on it. For the record, they unleashed the potty-mouth Godzilla and Kitty as soon as I arrived. Case closed on this piece. (Apology coming).

6)Transparency--I have demonstrated it from the start. My releasing of accurate personal information was/is not an invitation to conflict. Simply an anti-bullying tactic and a credibility measure I took to defend my name. If I were an agent (greatest compliment I could possibly imagine), I would not be typing right now. See Jack Wheeler story. So if you can't beat 'em, just say he's one of us. Case closed on this point.

7) This thread is now dead--Just think, I was ready to leave, until the shill got cocky and said I ran away after having my arse kicked. He messed up there. I don't have an arse, haven't had my ass kicked since 2nd grade, and have run from one thing in my life (a dog chasing me @ 2am while running home after my alternator died on my Chevy Monza in Fayetteville, NC).

My work here is done, I will be an active, positive, poster on the 2 legitimate threads regarding this subject. I also, will re-open the Sethory tribute thread, SANS name. Look for something like "STRAIGHT LYING vs. Straight Line You Decide"

Here are the pics they couldn't make go away.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is relevant b/c this is an illustration of the Winged Planet we are seeing. Make note of CLEAR and OBVIOUS "upward turn of the wings". This is important b/c in another picture they couldn't handle, you will clearly see this feature, not the "circle in a circle" lens flare garbage. Important b/c clearly this illustration isn't a "circle around a circle"

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is the picture they won't even touch. Look at 3 UNIQUE things:

a) Winged Planet has WINGS not "circle in a circle"
b) Trailing object (moon, dust cloud, whatever) is present and is NOT on the same vector line
c) There is exactly ONE tail of debris...and yes, I think that is the greatest threat...When this thing starts its way "back home" I suspect this tail could be problematic.

At any rate a, b, c are the ONLY objects like themselves in the picture and they are on NO VECTOR LINE. If anyone can reproduce this with a, b, c AND the sun and the horizon all in the pick, JUST DO IT. Furthermore, if ANYONE can even find a Google Image to match, JUST DO IT.

Note: Can someone scale to size the Winged Planet from my real pic and drop it on top of the illustration to show the match? Then drop one of those "circle in a circle" on top to show the fraudulent attempt to call them the same.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: They wouldn't even acknowledge the picture. To be clear, there are only 2 objects in the sky in this picture:

a) Our Moon--is above the tall street light
b) Winged Planet--Much brighter object, above 3 sets of lights. Much closer to the horizon than anything in the sky.

Note: I have been stopping at that traffic light for 11 years. For 4+ years I have watched this planet from that intersection. The only changes have been: closer/lower to the horizon and is now captured by my camera (previously 12 - 18 months could see it easily, but wouldn't show up)

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This one started the unraveling that we are seeing. I photographed the planet while looking right at it (that's why it is in good focus). However, b/c the object had JUST ARRIVED in the SW sky (I was waiting b/c my sons have played football there for 13 years combined--including the last 4 years and I know she comes above the goalpost). This picture confused the government agents b/c they didn't know what to respond to. I waited for people to say they didn't see anything BEFORE I told them to zoom over goalposts. Once they did, they were stuck. SINGLE BRIGHT object in the SW sky shortly after sunset matching worldwide sightings and shot less than a week ago. What could they say? Kudos to Setheory, "he said maybe a planet, but I need more info". Read that again. Which planet, Setheory. You said "maybe a planet", but just not the planet everyone is seeing at the same relative time of evening in the same sky space. To call that logically flawed is the greatest compliment I could give Setheory. That is delusional and by itself enough reason to substantiate his government status. His work buddy (either Geo or Boxer, I believe...as I don't really distinguish them), said that it was stadium lighting. You know the "new" LEVITATING kind. Nevermind, the planet is not emitting rays/flares as a light in the night AlWAYS will. Kudos to Astro, he is clearly their front guy, he has never acknowledged that picture or his fondness of EarthSky.org.

The case is closed now, by me. Keep watching the sky AND the government's moves/actions.

Lenghty post, yes. Coherent, yes. Relavent, yes. With pics THAT even the Government couldn't handle, yes. What more is there?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Hey Eric,

Your links to the photos didn't work. I know you have already done more than enough, but your post took a lot of time and effort and to those who may be new to the thread, it would prove to be beneficial. Thanks.
 Quoting: Bluepill


Per your request, I have re-posted the pics again. It was after my post reporting the threat by AC from New Zealand referring to me having "dug my grave". Unfortunately, that post was removed. I don't know if reporting threats here is against forum or TENA rules. I assumed not, because "Dr. Astro" accused me of "threatening to rape him" for using the word "relations". Very hard to understand who can do what around here, huh? Some seem to have "TENA blanche" while others do not.
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Can anyone see if we can get "Trinity" on this thread to help us understand what people are or are not seeing? I heard he/she is legendary here?

Also, there is a new thread dedicated SOLELY to the science of LFD (lens flare detection) that could help you all sort this all out. Check it out. Uses some of the "techniques" discussed on this thread.
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New picture of "UFO" over Atlanta. SW sky on 10/9

Can someone use the A.L.F.(Advanced Lens Flare) Detection System to tell us what you see AND why it is or is NOT lens flare? The VBS test and the WIRE test don't "appear" to be in play here. After that, I don't know how to test. My "version" of the pic shows (2) objects--1 VERY prominent, another at a fixed position (seems familiar, but not sure) roughly 11pm clock orientation. If you need to "zoom" or alter, perhaps you can videotape the process for Q.C./integrity purposes.

Thanks in advance!!!

[link to imageshack.us]
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With a simple box video camera. That's what I do. I used a modified samsung SDC-435 to provide the view through the telescope for this:
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


There are more than a few people out there like you -- meaning amateur astronomers -- who will be the first to holler if something truly unusual and amazing is occurring in space as seen from planet Earth. That's why I'm very certain that if an authentic (really authentic, really legit) phenomenon suddenly pops into reality, there will be plenty of advance commotion and publicity.

The very fact this thread is a long as it is illustrates just how foolish, superstitious or paranoid various people are. Your dealing with them must be like what Galileo experienced during the Roman Inquisition.
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This thread is too long to quote unnecessarily. Here is a copy of the poster who emailed to get pics (clearly an attempt to get pics that I had not and have not posted--I have LOTS). Now you can understand the "progressive release of information" technique I implored.

Here is the unsolicited request email:

Raymantheheretic .
To Me
Oct 14 at 1:09 PM
I would appreciate if you would e-mail me some of the pics you have of the mysterious celestial object.

Thanks in advance,

Quentin

The thread continued until "Quentin" used profane language and was duly dismissed.

Also, here are the 4 pictures that NOBODY has explained away. Someone mentioned the links didn't work. No surprise there.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is relevant b/c this is an illustration of the Winged Planet we are seeing. Make note of CLEAR and OBVIOUS "upward turn of the wings". This is important b/c in another picture they couldn't handle, you will clearly see this feature, not the "circle in a circle" lens flare garbage. Important b/c clearly this illustration isn't a "circle around a circle"

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is the picture they won't even touch. Look at 3 UNIQUE things:

a) Winged Planet has WINGS not "circle in a circle"
b) Trailing object (moon, dust cloud, whatever) is present and is NOT on the same vector line
c) There is exactly ONE tail of debris...and yes, I think that is the greatest threat...When this thing starts its way "back home" I suspect this tail could be problematic.

At any rate a, b, c are the ONLY objects like themselves in the picture and they are on NO VECTOR LINE. If anyone can reproduce this with a, b, c AND the sun and the horizon all in the pick, JUST DO IT. Furthermore, if ANYONE can even find a Google Image to match, JUST DO IT.

Note: Can someone scale to size the Winged Planet from my real pic and drop it on top of the illustration to show the match? Then drop one of those "circle in a circle" on top to show the fraudulent attempt to call them the same.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: They wouldn't even acknowledge the picture. To be clear, there are only 2 objects in the sky in this picture:

a) Our Moon--is above the tall street light
b) Winged Planet--Much brighter object, above 3 sets of lights. Much closer to the horizon than anything in the sky.

Note: I have been stopping at that traffic light for 11 years. For 4+ years I have watched this planet from that intersection. The only changes have been: closer/lower to the horizon and is now captured by my camera (previously 12 - 18 months could see it easily, but wouldn't show up)

For Google Map/Sky users--the intersection has these public landmarks (CVS Pharmacy @ 895 Holcomb Bridge Rd, Roswell, GA 30076 and Holiday Inn @ 909 Holcomb Bridge Rd Roswell, GA 30076)

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This one started the unraveling that we are seeing. I photographed the planet while looking right at it (that's why it is in good focus). However, b/c the object had JUST ARRIVED in the SW sky (I was waiting b/c my sons have played football there for 13 years combined--including the last 4 years and I know she comes above the goalpost). This picture confused the government agents b/c they didn't know what to respond to. I waited for people to say they didn't see anything BEFORE I told them to zoom over goalposts. Once they did, they were stuck. SINGLE BRIGHT object in the SW sky shortly after sunset matching worldwide sightings and shot less than a week ago. What could they say? Kudos to Setheory, "he said maybe a planet, but I need more info". Read that again. Which planet, Setheory. You said "maybe a planet", but just not the planet everyone is seeing at the same relative time of evening in the same sky space. To call that logically flawed is the greatest compliment I could give Setheory. That is delusional and by itself enough reason to substantiate his government status. His work buddy (either Geo or Boxer, I believe...as I don't really distinguish them), said that it was stadium lighting. You know the "new" LEVITATING kind. Nevermind, the planet is not emitting rays/flares as a light in the night AlWAYS will. Kudos to Astro, he is clearly their front guy, he has never acknowledged that picture or his fondness of EarthSky.org.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Go dig your own grave, this post is for the brian DEAD. You need to realize you are a homo. You have no friends. No one likes your posts. If you ever post on here, people will torment you in your dreams, until you call the cops. You are already dead in your dreams. You have NO LIFE. GET IT SHILLBOT? HAHA cry more

gay
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


This thread is too long to quote unnecessarily. Here is a copy of the poster who emailed to get pics (clearly an attempt to get pics that I had not and have not posted--I have LOTS). Now you can understand the "progressive release of information" technique I implored.

Here is the unsolicited request email:

Raymantheheretic .
To Me
Oct 14 at 1:09 PM
I would appreciate if you would e-mail me some of the pics you have of the mysterious celestial object.

Thanks in advance,

Quentin

The thread continued until "Quentin" used profane language and was duly dismissed.

Also, here are the 4 pictures that NOBODY has explained away. Someone mentioned the links didn't work. No surprise there.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is relevant b/c this is an illustration of the Winged Planet we are seeing. Make note of CLEAR and OBVIOUS "upward turn of the wings". This is important b/c in another picture they couldn't handle, you will clearly see this feature, not the "circle in a circle" lens flare garbage. Important b/c clearly this illustration isn't a "circle around a circle"

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is the picture they won't even touch. Look at 3 UNIQUE things:

a) Winged Planet has WINGS not "circle in a circle"
b) Trailing object (moon, dust cloud, whatever) is present and is NOT on the same vector line
c) There is exactly ONE tail of debris...and yes, I think that is the greatest threat...When this thing starts its way "back home" I suspect this tail could be problematic.

At any rate a, b, c are the ONLY objects like themselves in the picture and they are on NO VECTOR LINE. If anyone can reproduce this with a, b, c AND the sun and the horizon all in the pick, JUST DO IT. Furthermore, if ANYONE can even find a Google Image to match, JUST DO IT.

Note: Can someone scale to size the Winged Planet from my real pic and drop it on top of the illustration to show the match? Then drop one of those "circle in a circle" on top to show the fraudulent attempt to call them the same.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: They wouldn't even acknowledge the picture. To be clear, there are only 2 objects in the sky in this picture:

a) Our Moon--is above the tall street light
b) Winged Planet--Much brighter object, above 3 sets of lights. Much closer to the horizon than anything in the sky.

Note: I have been stopping at that traffic light for 11 years. For 4+ years I have watched this planet from that intersection. The only changes have been: closer/lower to the horizon and is now captured by my camera (previously 12 - 18 months could see it easily, but wouldn't show up)

For Google Map/Sky users--the intersection has these public landmarks (CVS Pharmacy @ 895 Holcomb Bridge Rd, Roswell, GA 30076 and Holiday Inn @ 909 Holcomb Bridge Rd Roswell, GA 30076)

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This one started the unraveling that we are seeing. I photographed the planet while looking right at it (that's why it is in good focus). However, b/c the object had JUST ARRIVED in the SW sky (I was waiting b/c my sons have played football there for 13 years combined--including the last 4 years and I know she comes above the goalpost). This picture confused the government agents b/c they didn't know what to respond to. I waited for people to say they didn't see anything BEFORE I told them to zoom over goalposts. Once they did, they were stuck. SINGLE BRIGHT object in the SW sky shortly after sunset matching worldwide sightings and shot less than a week ago. What could they say? Kudos to Setheory, "he said maybe a planet, but I need more info". Read that again. Which planet, Setheory. You said "maybe a planet", but just not the planet everyone is seeing at the same relative time of evening in the same sky space. To call that logically flawed is the greatest compliment I could give Setheory. That is delusional and by itself enough reason to substantiate his government status. His work buddy (either Geo or Boxer, I believe...as I don't really distinguish them), said that it was stadium lighting. You know the "new" LEVITATING kind. Nevermind, the planet is not emitting rays/flares as a light in the night AlWAYS will. Kudos to Astro, he is clearly their front guy, he has never acknowledged that picture or his fondness of EarthSky.org.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Go dig your own grave, this post is for the brian DEAD. You need to realize you are a homo. You have no friends. No one likes your posts. If you ever post on here, people will torment you in your dreams, until you call the cops. You are already dead in your dreams. You have NO LIFE. GET IT SHILLBOT? HAHA cry more

gay
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


How old are you ???jerkit
Negativity is cannibalistic. The more you feed it, the bigger and stronger it grows.
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My girlfriend and I have been seeing what looks like a gigantic star, alone in the sky for the past few nights. Last night we saw it in the South West. It's normally in the early hours of the night. 6 or 7PM EST. I never see it past 10PM or so. Then the stars come out.
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That's it! No other stars in the sky when it shows up, right as the sun sets in the southwest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1804545


we go out and watch this thing every night I figured it was Planet X
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There must be tens of thousands of us out there every night looking up at the western sky. LOL...
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The loon thinks he has been on this thread since the beginning???
The loon thinks his pictures are proof.
The loon thinks everyone who disagrees with his opinions concerning his pictures is a shill.
The loon says he has been observing this phenomenon for the last 4 years, then he joines GLP about a year ago and never mentions his 4 year observations untill a few days ago.
The loon thinks i am a shill cos i saw nothing in his pics but lense flares and other things that are not a Planet or a binary sun or a comet or anything relevant to this thread.
The loon somehow thinks that it would make sense now, for a shill to promote,
1.The existance of an Object X
2.That is associated with cyclical destruction on earth
3.That some mayor event may occur this year.
4.That people should prep their arses off, within their finacial means.
5.That if nothing happens this year, people should keep researching and looking for truth.

I can't even be bothered to continue with this list, i just hope people can discern for themselves that this 3rdeyeE guy is just a strange weirdo that unfortunatly has latched on to an otherwise interesting thread.

My thread, incase anyone wants to see the info i am pushing.
That is many years of research condensed into a thread,
that is what i believe.
I may hold some views that are wrong, time will tell, i may have postulated here and there about things that sound ridiculous but since this is a conspiracy forum i thought i could.
Anyhow, he is a loon and i am very disappointed that anyone who actually read this thread could think he is in anyway good.:mmkiu:



Thread: Planet/Object X ,ISON and coincedences.(Work in progress.)
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2)The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and
has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous
planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles. While that may seem like a
great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact
that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.

Analysis--Object is so cold and dark...Hmmmm, is that relevant here?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


Yes, considering how you just went off on a rant as to how this "cold object that cast no light" is somehow putting Venus to shame in terms of Magnitude. You really aren't making a lick of sense.
 Quoting: Setheory 48520258


What better place to apologize than DIRECTLY to Setheory, but 1st let me clarify the GLARING mistake/lie (I do not know your intentions, some have suggested that you recruited/employ me here). You seem to confuse Dr. Gerry Neugebauer's research and IRAS photographs for my ranting opinion. If you can read (I won't make an assumption one way or the other), you will see that they said:

"The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and
has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space". Additionally, I never used "Magnitude", an astronomical term. I simply gave NAKED EYE description of it's "appearance". Perhaps you are confusing my post with someone else.

Question for you though: Is the Moon not also "dark" and or "cold"? Sometimes in Atlanta the Moon is VERY bright (no idea of the "Magnitude"). So I don't really see your point. Are you, as a very amateur astronomer and accomplished LF analyst, saying that "cold" and "dark" objects cannot "appear" Bright or Brilliant to the Naked Eye against a dark sky. Please expound on this for us. Thanks in advance.

P.S. Thanks for confusing me with the experts (very flattering), but I don't steal credit for other people's findings (I am no Christopher Columbus).
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first they laugh
then they ridicule
then they fight
and then you win ... ghandi
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What exactly are you trying to win here?


glpaward
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I just added this video to today's article:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I just added this video to today's article:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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That's it. No doubt about it. Red..green..red..white..red...gree...
Moves all over the place.

Not a planet and not a star. JMO...What the hell is it?
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I just added this video to today's article:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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In5d:

I know it sounds absolutely crazy, but check out this link - and tell me if this might not be your star.

Too crazy to be a coincidence?

[link to www.share-international.org]
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The Apology as Promised:

I would like to apologize for using profanity on this thread in response to the profanity HURLED my way. Despite the personal attacks and threats I was subjected to, I would have liked to accomplish my goal, (which has been accomolished) without the use of any rude or offensive language.

VR,

Erik F. Barnes aka The Anti-TENA (with 3 Antennas )

Email me folks

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We need a new place to continue the documentation. This site is corrupted.

Google "TENA USAF"

R.I.P.

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GLP'ers our job is almost done here. The government agents here are beyond desperate. Consider these things:

1) The government had a ZetaTalk "contact" come on the thread and post ONE message--3rd Eye E is bad. Never heard from ZetaTalk person ever again. Imagine that. 220 pages, one post from the group that the Government vilifies. Case closed on this piece.

2) Now, the government agents are claiming that I am one of them. Is that delusional or what? They planted me to fight with Setheory and post bogus pics. Case closed on this piece.

3) Item #2 was just newly introduced by Rayomagnetic or something like that. More on him later, including his Unsolicited email to me. And my response. Don't miss that.

4) Picture contoversy--I have provided pics from the ground, relevant because this planet is close to our horizon. 2 pics have been attacked and 8 - 9 ignored. The "Wire" pic was manipulated to INSTANTLY discredit me, but 220 pgs later it didn't work. Then I was accused of "photo-shopping" the "Winged Planet Picture". Besides patently false, with ZERO evidence to even support, this makes no sense. I manufactured a Winged Planet picture different THAN ANY IMAGE on Google. Different than ANY PICTURE of lens flare that ANYONE here has ever seen. But I couldn't photoshop my pictured which I suspect was photoshopped THEN magnified to a blur by Dr. Astro? Case closed on this piece.

5) Hypocrisy re: language--My formal apology to every person who has weathered this storm is forthcoming. But first this. The language used about a woman here was easily the most disgusting display of filth on the entire thread. Nobody called the government guy out for this. Ultimately Setheory was given the assignment of at least saying, he didn't agree with it. Well me cussing IN response to MEN who are cussing at me was a tactic I CHOSE to use to keep them engaged and to highlight their hypocrisy. Tactical or not, I will be apologizing to all. And the thread I have started, has ZERO profanity on it. For the record, they unleashed the potty-mouth Godzilla and Kitty as soon as I arrived. Case closed on this piece. (Apology coming).

6)Transparency--I have demonstrated it from the start. My releasing of accurate personal information was/is not an invitation to conflict. Simply an anti-bullying tactic and a credibility measure I took to defend my name. If I were an agent (greatest compliment I could possibly imagine), I would not be typing right now. See Jack Wheeler story. So if you can't beat 'em, just say he's one of us. Case closed on this point.

7) This thread is now dead--Just think, I was ready to leave, until the shill got cocky and said I ran away after having my arse kicked. He messed up there. I don't have an arse, haven't had my ass kicked since 2nd grade, and have run from one thing in my life (a dog chasing me @ 2am while running home after my alternator died on my Chevy Monza in Fayetteville, NC).

My work here is done, I will be an active, positive, poster on the 2 legitimate threads regarding this subject. I also, will re-open the Sethory tribute thread, SANS name. Look for something like "STRAIGHT LYING vs. Straight Line You Decide"

Here are the pics they couldn't make go away.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is relevant b/c this is an illustration of the Winged Planet we are seeing. Make note of CLEAR and OBVIOUS "upward turn of the wings". This is important b/c in another picture they couldn't handle, you will clearly see this feature, not the "circle in a circle" lens flare garbage. Important b/c clearly this illustration isn't a "circle around a circle"

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This is the picture they won't even touch. Look at 3 UNIQUE things:

a) Winged Planet has WINGS not "circle in a circle"
b) Trailing object (moon, dust cloud, whatever) is present and is NOT on the same vector line
c) There is exactly ONE tail of debris...and yes, I think that is the greatest threat...When this thing starts its way "back home" I suspect this tail could be problematic.

At any rate a, b, c are the ONLY objects like themselves in the picture and they are on NO VECTOR LINE. If anyone can reproduce this with a, b, c AND the sun and the horizon all in the pick, JUST DO IT. Furthermore, if ANYONE can even find a Google Image to match, JUST DO IT.

Note: Can someone scale to size the Winged Planet from my real pic and drop it on top of the illustration to show the match? Then drop one of those "circle in a circle" on top to show the fraudulent attempt to call them the same.

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: They wouldn't even acknowledge the picture. To be clear, there are only 2 objects in the sky in this picture:

a) Our Moon--is above the tall street light
b) Winged Planet--Much brighter object, above 3 sets of lights. Much closer to the horizon than anything in the sky.

Note: I have been stopping at that traffic light for 11 years. For 4+ years I have watched this planet from that intersection. The only changes have been: closer/lower to the horizon and is now captured by my camera (previously 12 - 18 months could see it easily, but wouldn't show up)

[link to imageshack.us]

Analysis: This one started the unraveling that we are seeing. I photographed the planet while looking right at it (that's why it is in good focus). However, b/c the object had JUST ARRIVED in the SW sky (I was waiting b/c my sons have played football there for 13 years combined--including the last 4 years and I know she comes above the goalpost). This picture confused the government agents b/c they didn't know what to respond to. I waited for people to say they didn't see anything BEFORE I told them to zoom over goalposts. Once they did, they were stuck. SINGLE BRIGHT object in the SW sky shortly after sunset matching worldwide sightings and shot less than a week ago. What could they say? Kudos to Setheory, "he said maybe a planet, but I need more info". Read that again. Which planet, Setheory. You said "maybe a planet", but just not the planet everyone is seeing at the same relative time of evening in the same sky space. To call that logically flawed is the greatest compliment I could give Setheory. That is delusional and by itself enough reason to substantiate his government status. His work buddy (either Geo or Boxer, I believe...as I don't really distinguish them), said that it was stadium lighting. You know the "new" LEVITATING kind. Nevermind, the planet is not emitting rays/flares as a light in the night AlWAYS will. Kudos to Astro, he is clearly their front guy, he has never acknowledged that picture or his fondness of EarthSky.org.

The case is closed now, by me. Keep watching the sky AND the government's moves/actions.

Lenghty post, yes. Coherent, yes. Relavent, yes. With pics THAT even the Government couldn't handle, yes. What more is there?
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


1) The government had a ZetaTalk "contact" come on the thread and post ONE message--3rd Eye E is bad. Never heard from ZetaTalk person ever again.
 Quoting: 3rdEyeE


I do not have sufficient english writing skills to keep up in a discussion, so I prefered to provide some pictures several times. It is obvious to me that you are highjacking this thread. All I have seen so far in your pictures are artifacts/lense flares & refractive aberrations.

Also I had one posting where I mentioned the current area planet x should be searched for: below the eclyptic, best seen at sunrise or sunset somwhere at the 1600 position when seen from the northern hemisphere and at the 1000 position when seen from the southern hemisphere. Your best shot would be a dim fuzz ball because Planet x is enshrouded in a gigantic dust cloud which reflects light but not very much.


Seth is completely right when he talsk about your pictures:

[link to imageshack.us]
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I just added this video to today's article:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: in5d


In5d:

I know it sounds absolutely crazy, but check out this link - and tell me if this might not be your star.

Too crazy to be a coincidence?

[link to www.share-international.org]
 Quoting: Cassandra's Echo


it could well be. I just bought a better camera and ordered a telescopic lens for it. I also ordered a high powered camcorder and a Gen 3 night vision goggle with an alpha lens, so expect more (and higher quality) videos in the near future.
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The Apology as Promised:

I would like to apologize for using profanity on this thread in response to the profanity HURLED my way. Despite the personal attacks and threats I was subjected to, I would have liked to accomplish my goal, (which has been accomolished) without the use of any rude or offensive language.

VR,

Erik F. Barnes aka The Anti-TENA (with 3 Antennas )

Email me folks

[email protected]

We need a new place to continue the documentation. This site is corrupted.
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By people who know how to identify a lens flare. That may be inconvenient for you, but on whole, it has value.
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sorry, forgot to change the date/time/stamp - still showing Aug instead of October - but the time and day is right

these are not to show you anything other than its location on my horizon ... as you can see, it appears very close to the same place - above the mt and in the sky

it is very faint in this shot - look to the rt of the tel pole
10/06/13
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10/08/13
[link to i272.photobucket.com]

and in this one it is also faint, (don't be distracted by the chemtrails to the left ... it is almost in the middle of the shot (slightly to the rt) and appears to have moved left from the position in the previous shots - but so did the Sun - and it seems to be the same distance from the sun - but that is the best shot I got of it tonight - within two minutes it was cover by the chem-clouds

10/19/13
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and Astro and Geo, just for you - fyi, this is what a contrail looks like with my camera

[link to i272.photobucket.com]

as you can see, there is a clear difference - and I know what a contrail looks like
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Those are both contrails. Good job not figuring out the obvious. Your camera cannot resolve the plane.
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