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Raymantheheretic User ID: 48766504 United States 10/27/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you AlphA Canis Majoris Kind of a long vid. Near the end is when he gives aprox. direction and claims once again it's not on the sky app but this time offers no proof as he had done on previous videos. Woah That'll teach me to ask for 2 cents worth of opinion... That video is clearly atmospheric turbulence. I get that all the time when I view the sky. You will not get that twinkle action through a telescope, at least not as much. ^This. Just about any and all stars can/do twinkle...flash colors. When I see them doing that, I know it will be bad night to use my telescope. We call this bad 'seeing'. If it's really bad, the stars will appear to boil (viewed in a telescope), and the views of the Moon and planets will lack detail. When the stars just barely twinkle or don't twinkle at all, that is a good indication of steady air and will probably be a good night for astronomical viewing. There is even a web site for astronomers that forecasts the viewing conditions: [link to cleardarksky.com] Yeah, I totally get that. Thanks. It was the size and position of the object In5d recorded that got me curious. Being out of focus answers for the apparently large size as well as the fluctuation going on easily enough and no actual compass headings or time given accounts for similar sightings (of the bright colored disco ball, mostly red ha ha) in seemingly separate locations according to the report of the AC and In5d. Not much was going on here so thought I'd ask as long as Geo was thread sitting at the time. |
Raymantheheretic User ID: 48766504 United States 10/27/2013 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got a Cannon 7D, and a Mark III. As soon as I gt a clear day, I'm going up to Mt. Hood and taking high def video with the 7D, and taking insanely high megapixel shots with the Mark III. I'll post those stills here in RAW format, with exif data, and upload the HD video. I've got every kind of telescoping lens you can think of, and I'll be using it all to put this fracken' argument to rest, if it's there my cameras WILL see it, if it's not, they will see that too. People say it's at the 10-11 o'clock from the setting sun, either to the west or west by northwest. If it's out there, I'll find that fucker. Shit, I'll even bring a spotter along. Once done I will post What face of the mountain I was on, the direction I was facing, and grid coordinates so that someone here and overlay that data into Stellarium so that if there is actually something out there, they'll be able to tell if it's a normal celestial object, or something new. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35282601 Exactly what this thread needs. Hope you find ziltch to be honest. Anyway to include a fail safe means to validate a time stamp in case it's a no show? If we never hear from you again we'll know what happened |
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SunnyDaze User ID: 26285793 United States 10/27/2013 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while astro and geo are busy inflating their egos elsewhere I have been doing some research on Hurcubus and the fact that it would be plainly seen but that everyone would be told, that is a Known Star ... in this case Venus (or others) in GLP we are being told that everything we see at sunset is a contrail does Venus "rise" in the sky in the same place for months on end? because this hugely bright "star" that I have been watching rises at the same place EVERY NIGHT - gets BRIGHTER every night and doesn't "move" across the sky - it just sits there for hours on end and then just vanishes --- so that AIN'T VENUS ... as this website indicates ... VENUS MOVES [link to www.nakedeyeplanets.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48553566 France 10/27/2013 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Log:................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ L1 QIA Query:::: >>>>INSERT (TALK 1-5) <> Do you have any evidence**** (name)****?<> >>>>INSERT (TALK 6-9) <> Do you think the government is doing a good job**** (name)****?<>?<> >>>>INSERT (TALK 10-15) <> Do you think this is real**** (name)****?<>?<> >>>>INSERT (TALK 16-21) <> What is your opinion on (T-WORD) **** (name)****?<>?<> GREEN A. Threat to NSEC? (SP0200) B. QIA + Trigger word (GOTO T-WORD) C. SAURON (T/T) /BULLRUN D. Threat potential - OCONUS Y=1 or N=0 ( HOAX / SHILL/FF protocol (App vi)) IF GREEN ≥ 1 Escalate E. IFB TW OSM/IRC(NEW) (1-4) F. Employment/ Finances/ Family/Relations/Neighbors IF GREEN ≥ 2 GOTO AMBER ///////////// T-WORD /////////////////////////////////////// (5D+FOAM+ FUSION(~)+CODE+TIME+GODS+LIVING+INVASION+YELLOW+WATER+ISON+EPIDEMIC+OWNERS (Run T-Book Update now)) AMBER A. GREEN+ T-WORD context correct? Y=1 or N=0 B. Server check -SIGINT C. Ip =AIRHANDLER + MARINA D. Credible? Y=1 or (N=0 GREEN - Refresh 1 week) E. Allow QAI protocol ELEVATION? Y=1 or N=0 F. Use Targeted BACKDOOR- XOS and MOS (LEO with NSA oversight) >>>>>>>>>>>>>If AMBER ≥ 2 GOTO RED >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RED Notify CSO A. L-Code detected? MABUS / NOTIFY SUPERVISOR-CODE BLACK (F2 standby)************** B. Temporal disturbance? NOTIFY SUPERVISOR -CODE BLACK (F1 and F2 standby) C. Has QAI (E) detected a fractal? NOTIFY SUPERVISOR-CODE BLACK(F2 standby)******* D. Probable Traveller or NSB? NOTIFY SUPERVISOR -CODE BLACK (F1 and F2 standby) E. Check NUCLEON/FALLOUT (Dual-Route) F. QAI (E) = 90% +?(F1 and F2 standby) G. Confirm TEST / NO TEST. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::///////////////////////////////TEST.....NO TEST////////////////////////////////////////:::::::::::::::: 1/ TEST + NO- GREEN - END 2/ NO TEST+YES - Escalate - NOTIFY SUPERVISOR -CODE BLACK (F1 and F2 imminent) CODE BLACK +MABUS A. QAI (E) 90% +? B. Traveller /Human / NSB/ L-Code? D. OODA / MAUI E. A-D = YES - ALERT C3 / COMINT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. F. QAI (E) BK - up-link-R/T 1. Human/Traveller (4) - TEAM 1 (Dam Neck<>) Run C/S and DRILL protocol (Notify PR) 2. L-Code/NSB - TEAM 2 (Pent 225 ext 7) Is EMP / BACKDOOR required? (Pent 225 ext 7) 3. FEMA on stand by ? (Pent 227 ext 311) Run C/S and DRILL protocol (Notify PR) 4. Can (1 / 2 ) be contained? (5) A/ Yes PR + FF return to GREEN Pass to Monitoring Team B/ No QAI (E) still at 90% +?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LEVEL 5 EXPOSURE>>>>>>>>>>> Do all LEVEL 5 Supervisors agree?>>>>>>>>>>QAI (E) agree? >>>>>>>>Initiate ***F1*****F2******F3***>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C/ Human/Traveller -Is martial law required? Activate FF+ EAN / EBS + LOCKDOWN (//****//) L-Code/NSB Deploy BACKDOOR world wide (FEMA + LOCKDOWN+ FF) APP (//*****//) -..........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>,,,,,<<<<<<<<< Invasion Protocol (IVP) F1 Containment Protocol (CP) F2 Evacuation Protocol (EP) F3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) FISC 1 (Not FISC 2 unless > 1 hr) (2) T132 + T133 (3) E-1Ω*************((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))**************** FF -projected- fv-11dbbcfddvvcjvfffv-bullrun-12bwhshdd-vbn ffb-ecncduduc-maui-ncncdssxx-fff-ddddde-27bddbsssdddd-25-35% dead-ffndddudud--dard-e4r5gvcvv-darpa-eyryrtetsfwl oboe-casualties %%%-hfhfhfhdreeied-errorprint---dhfywwmdjf-ffdeowrbddd-lcode-erroefnwnixcd-esdbese-frac-dwwwucmzpwebc |
#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 1497928 United States 10/27/2013 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Log:................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48553566 L1 QIA Query:::: >>>>INSERT (TALK 1-5) <> Do you have any evidence**** (name)****?<> >>>>INSERT (TALK 6-9) <> Do you think the government is doing a good job**** (name)****?<>?<> >>>>INSERT (TALK 10-15) <> Do you think this is real**** (name)****?<>?<> >>>>INSERT (TALK 16-21) <> What is your opinion on (T-WORD) **** (name)****?<>?<> GREEN A. Threat to NSEC? (SP0200) B. QIA + Trigger word (GOTO T-WORD) C. SAURON (T/T) /BULLRUN D. Threat potential - OCONUS Y=1 or N=0 ( HOAX / SHILL/FF protocol (App vi)) IF GREEN ≥ 1 Escalate E. IFB TW OSM/IRC(NEW) (1-4) F. Employment/ Finances/ Family/Relations/Neighbors IF GREEN ≥ 2 GOTO AMBER ///////////// T-WORD /////////////////////////////////////// (5D+FOAM+ FUSION(~)+CODE+TIME+GODS+LIVING+INVASION+YELLOW+WATER+ISON+EPIDEMIC+OWNERS (Run T-Book Update now)) AMBER A. GREEN+ T-WORD context correct? Y=1 or N=0 B. Server check -SIGINT C. Ip =AIRHANDLER + MARINA D. Credible? Y=1 or (N=0 GREEN - Refresh 1 week) E. Allow QAI protocol ELEVATION? Y=1 or N=0 F. Use Targeted BACKDOOR- XOS and MOS (LEO with NSA oversight) >>>>>>>>>>>>>If AMBER ≥ 2 GOTO RED >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RED Notify CSO A. L-Code detected? MABUS / NOTIFY SUPERVISOR-CODE BLACK (F2 standby)************** B. Temporal disturbance? NOTIFY SUPERVISOR -CODE BLACK (F1 and F2 standby) C. Has QAI (E) detected a fractal? NOTIFY SUPERVISOR-CODE BLACK(F2 standby)******* D. Probable Traveller or NSB? NOTIFY SUPERVISOR -CODE BLACK (F1 and F2 standby) E. Check NUCLEON/FALLOUT (Dual-Route) F. QAI (E) = 90% +?(F1 and F2 standby) G. Confirm TEST / NO TEST. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::///////////////////////////////TEST.....NO TEST////////////////////////////////////////:::::::::::::::: 1/ TEST + NO- GREEN - END 2/ NO TEST+YES - Escalate - NOTIFY SUPERVISOR -CODE BLACK (F1 and F2 imminent) CODE BLACK +MABUS A. QAI (E) 90% +? B. Traveller /Human / NSB/ L-Code? D. OODA / MAUI E. A-D = YES - ALERT C3 / COMINT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. F. QAI (E) BK - up-link-R/T 1. Human/Traveller (4) - TEAM 1 (Dam Neck<>) Run C/S and DRILL protocol (Notify PR) 2. L-Code/NSB - TEAM 2 (Pent 225 ext 7) Is EMP / BACKDOOR required? (Pent 225 ext 7) 3. FEMA on stand by ? (Pent 227 ext 311) Run C/S and DRILL protocol (Notify PR) 4. Can (1 / 2 ) be contained? (5) A/ Yes PR + FF return to GREEN Pass to Monitoring Team B/ No QAI (E) still at 90% +?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LEVEL 5 EXPOSURE>>>>>>>>>>> Do all LEVEL 5 Supervisors agree?>>>>>>>>>>QAI (E) agree? >>>>>>>>Initiate ***F1*****F2******F3***>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C/ Human/Traveller -Is martial law required? Activate FF+ EAN / EBS + LOCKDOWN (//****//) L-Code/NSB Deploy BACKDOOR world wide (FEMA + LOCKDOWN+ FF) APP (//*****//) -..........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>,,,,,<<<<<<<<< Invasion Protocol (IVP) F1 Containment Protocol (CP) F2 Evacuation Protocol (EP) F3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) FISC 1 (Not FISC 2 unless > 1 hr) (2) T132 + T133 (3) E-1Ω*************((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))**************** FF -projected- fv-11dbbcfddvvcjvfffv-bullrun-12bwhshdd-vbn ffb-ecncduduc-maui-ncncdssxx-fff-ddddde-27bddbsssdddd-25-35% dead-ffndddudud--dard-e4r5gvcvv-darpa-eyryrtetsfwl oboe-casualties %%%-hfhfhfhdreeied-errorprint---dhfywwmdjf-ffdeowrbddd-lcode-erroefnwnixcd-esdbese-frac-dwwwucmzpwebc |
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lexington park, md User ID: 19522326 United States 10/27/2013 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well i must say i saw it today fron lexington park, md. Sun was setting venus was to my left and i looked around , i almost even missed but i saw this flashing point of different colors to my right about a 20 degree difference. I was in the parking lot of Lexinton park baptist church on shangri la rd aka willows rd. yes i saw differnt contrails but they weren't flashing differenlt light patterns. So yeah i saw it Quoting: I saw it lexington park, md 19522326 [link to youtu.be] |
salmonrun User ID: 40555883 United States 10/27/2013 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while astro and geo are busy inflating their egos elsewhere I have been doing some research on Hurcubus and the fact that it would be plainly seen but that everyone would be told, that is a Known Star ... in this case Venus (or others) in GLP we are being told that everything we see at sunset is a contrail does Venus "rise" in the sky in the same place for months on end? because this hugely bright "star" that I have been watching rises at the same place EVERY NIGHT - gets BRIGHTER every night and doesn't "move" across the sky - it just sits there for hours on end and then just vanishes --- so that AIN'T VENUS ... as this website indicates ... VENUS MOVES i was just going to ask the same question re. venus. i'm in the rocky mtns. i too see a very bright "star" in the western sky every evening 7-7:45 pm. it's been in the same location since was aware to look for "something strange...", going on maybe 6wks now. doesn't venus change locations? does anyone know if this phenomena would not be visible because of the mtns? in other words, is it only view-able from coastal areas? Last Edited by salmonrun on 10/27/2013 07:22 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22035675 United States 10/27/2013 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while astro and geo are busy inflating their egos elsewhere Quoting: SunnyDaze I have been doing some research on Hurcubus and the fact that it would be plainly seen but that everyone would be told, that is a Known Star ... in this case Venus (or others) in GLP we are being told that everything we see at sunset is a contrail does Venus "rise" in the sky in the same place for months on end? because this hugely bright "star" that I have been watching rises at the same place EVERY NIGHT - gets BRIGHTER every night and doesn't "move" across the sky - it just sits there for hours on end and then just vanishes --- so that AIN'T VENUS ... as this website indicates ... VENUS MOVES [link to www.nakedeyeplanets.com] I still see it in the mornings too while driving to work. |
#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 48826935 United States 10/27/2013 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while astro and geo are busy inflating their egos elsewhere Quoting: SunnyDaze I have been doing some research on Hurcubus and the fact that it would be plainly seen but that everyone would be told, that is a Known Star ... in this case Venus (or others) in GLP we are being told that everything we see at sunset is a contrail does Venus "rise" in the sky in the same place for months on end? because this hugely bright "star" that I have been watching rises at the same place EVERY NIGHT - gets BRIGHTER every night and doesn't "move" across the sky - it just sits there for hours on end and then just vanishes --- so that AIN'T VENUS ... as this website indicates ... VENUS MOVES [link to www.nakedeyeplanets.com] I still see it in the mornings too while driving to work. That would be Jupiter. If you see another object late night and early mornings, it is Jupiter. |
ejwith9953 User ID: 49032078 United States 10/27/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw bright object in sky in the west, i am in Tampa Florida. Grabbed my telescope and trained it to Venus location, witch is preprogramed into telescope, location was different than location of object. before I could train on object if faded from visible site. will try to see again tomorrow. noticed it at 6:50 pm est, lost it at 7:13 est |
ººOATºº User ID: 43891947 United States 10/27/2013 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is NOT venus(you can see that clearly to the left/higher) Quoting: ok 7875900 It is NOT mercury(can hardly be seen @ all, certainly doesn't have disc like appendage) You can not see anything unusual with eyes only, HOWEVER with a pair of binoculars you can see a round, reddish object as bright as Venus BUT with something CLEARLY protruding from it that is disc like but open ended. A sort of "V" shape to it... The left side appears to be more prominent. I've checked it out last two nights and can hardly believe my eyes. All articles I read state you can NOT see the rings of Saturn with just binocs; its too far for that. Plus the "V" shape part is larger then the object; it is vice versa with Saturn. I've seen saturn through a proper telescope and it was tiny, its rings even more so. Please if you are in usa/canada or other northern latitudes, check it out, near sunset WITH binocs @ least. I can't believe this but it looks just like the images of what niburu is supposed to look like, the winged disc!!! Craziest thing I've ever seen, right up there with hale bopp or green lightning or intense aurora action. I am sort of willing to believe it's Saturn due to local, appearance but doesn't seem possible @ all(way too much detail for such weak/generic binoculars! It doesn't even say the mag power on them.)!!! AND The rings are NOT open ended The rings are NOT more prominent then the planet/object Again it is NOT venus, observed it shorlty later/unmistakably. Mercury might of been the winged messanger but does NOT actually have wing/disc like appearance to it ever. Will attempt images tomorrow. It's Venus. |
Paggs User ID: 41770098 United States 10/27/2013 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while astro and geo are busy inflating their egos elsewhere Quoting: SunnyDaze I have been doing some research on Hurcubus and the fact that it would be plainly seen but that everyone would be told, that is a Known Star ... in this case Venus (or others) in GLP we are being told that everything we see at sunset is a contrail does Venus "rise" in the sky in the same place for months on end? because this hugely bright "star" that I have been watching rises at the same place EVERY NIGHT - gets BRIGHTER every night and doesn't "move" across the sky - it just sits there for hours on end and then just vanishes --- so that AIN'T VENUS ... as this website indicates ... VENUS MOVES i was just going to ask the same question re. venus. i'm in the rocky mtns. i too see a very bright "star" in the western sky every evening 7-7:45 pm. it's been in the same location since was aware to look for "something strange...", going on maybe 6wks now. doesn't venus change locations? does anyone know if this phenomena would not be visible because of the mtns? in other words, is it only view-able from coastal areas? I thought I saw something the other night also was not sure if it was Venus. SO tonight I just went out and found Venus with my scope, now I can rule it out if this object shows up tonight!! |
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#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 44557506 United States 10/28/2013 02:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well saw it again, today around 6:45 pm to the right of the sun at a 45 degree angle. I saw venus way to the left of the sun this was in lexington park, md nothing but chemtrailing planes about 5 or six or them prior to that but you stil saw the red planet blinking There is no "Red" planet. Please show us a link to where at least one Amateur Astronomer has a capture of it. I am waiting............. |
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DidlerMajor User ID: 46943921 Canada 10/28/2013 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My fiancée and I saw a twinkling object that seemed to have a rotating wave of color around it. It would also grow bigger then shrink. It was around 2am in the northern hemisphere and it was right above us. This was two years ago. It was most likely a planet or star, but it was the strangest thing we had seen in the sky at that point. It's funny how seeing a planet or star in the sky can make you stop and rethink what you believe. This thread is 200+ pages of people talking about what some say is Venus. Is it? You'd think finding the answer would be fucking easy, and not a 200+ page argument about it. So, what's the truth? |
#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 44557506 United States 10/28/2013 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My fiancée and I saw a twinkling object that seemed to have a rotating wave of color around it. It would also grow bigger then shrink. It was around 2am in the northern hemisphere and it was right above us. This was two years ago. It was most likely a planet or star, but it was the strangest thing we had seen in the sky at that point. Quoting: DidlerMajor It's funny how seeing a planet or star in the sky can make you stop and rethink what you believe. This thread is 200+ pages of people talking about what some say is Venus. Is it? You'd think finding the answer would be fucking easy, and not a 200+ page argument about it. So, what's the truth? Contrail, Venus, Arcturus, Antares. You choose. |
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DidlerMajor User ID: 46943921 Canada 10/28/2013 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My fiancée and I saw a twinkling object that seemed to have a rotating wave of color around it. It would also grow bigger then shrink. It was around 2am in the northern hemisphere and it was right above us. This was two years ago. It was most likely a planet or star, but it was the strangest thing we had seen in the sky at that point. Quoting: DidlerMajor It's funny how seeing a planet or star in the sky can make you stop and rethink what you believe. This thread is 200+ pages of people talking about what some say is Venus. Is it? You'd think finding the answer would be fucking easy, and not a 200+ page argument about it. So, what's the truth? Contrail, Venus, Arcturus, Antares. You choose. Are you saying what people are talking about is a combination of all the above? Shouldn't it be easier to figure out? I don't want to choose one, I want to know what the one is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6302070 United States 10/28/2013 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Venus is south of the sunset, The redish object is appearing well after sunset to the north @ 355 degrees according to my phone compass, lots of chemin last eve in the hudson valley Quoting: Knifeedge3 29027579 How did we go from most observers saying it was around 255 to now it being at 355??? Would that indicate lots of movement over the past few weeks, or...??? TIA for any reasonable explanation. |