Ancient Archeological Sites That Were Destroyed By Stupid Humans | |
Face Palmer (OP) User ID: 48105396 ![]() 10/09/2013 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ikea mall is worst imho "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
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Ostria1 User ID: 48107682 ![]() 10/09/2013 09:50 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not new of course. It is know here in Greece that many of the christian churches that were built in the first centuries, were build over ancient temples or religious sites. So you know, when you see an old church, this place had a significance for the ancient greeks. In some churches you can still see the big rocks they used for foundation that were part of the ancient temples themselves. Ostria |
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Mind Control User ID: 21051903 ![]() 10/09/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what happens when you have the illuminati controlling things... They also plundered a Sumerian museum in Iraq. 5* OP. “Our minds have been poisoned and our accepted beliefs are unnatural and artificial.” - Bryant McGill Stop governments from spying on you by encrypting your communications: [link to prism-break.org] |
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Mind Control User ID: 21051903 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Illuminati doesn't want us to believe that there are Pyramids all over the world, like in Bosnia, China or Cahokia. “Our minds have been poisoned and our accepted beliefs are unnatural and artificial.” - Bryant McGill Stop governments from spying on you by encrypting your communications: [link to prism-break.org] |
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Face Palmer (OP) User ID: 48105396 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good point. "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
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Mind Control User ID: 21051903 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont blame it to illuminati or any ruling group, most distruction was made by ignorant mob.. unfortunately the same we see today Quoting: Ostria1 The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. Last Edited by Mind Control on 10/09/2013 10:20 AM “Our minds have been poisoned and our accepted beliefs are unnatural and artificial.” - Bryant McGill Stop governments from spying on you by encrypting your communications: [link to prism-break.org] |
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Ostria1 User ID: 48107682 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:27 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont blame it to illuminati or any ruling group, most distruction was made by ignorant mob.. unfortunately the same we see today Quoting: Ostria1 The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. I wish they did receive money.. at least we would say they did/do it to feed their families. But this is not the case. Ostria |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7907030 10/09/2013 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, preservation a fairly new idea. Good thing there was intervention in the building of the Aswan Dam. Lots of stuff would have been submerged. I also don't think it has been all that long that modern city of Rome really recognized the cultural significance of all the ruins around them. |
YaRight User ID: 1219589 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well that just sad.... so much of our past has been hidden from us couple that with stupid greed of people and we have lost a lot of history The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7907030 10/09/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is some vulgar stuff: [link to m.npr.org] Published: January 22, 2013 by Joanna Kakissis In this winter of austerity and Depression-era unemployment, a fog of woodsmoke hangs over the Greek capital on cold nights. It's coming from the tens of thousands of fireplaces and wood-burning stoves Athenians are using to heat their homes. Most can no longer afford heating oil, the price of which has risen 40 percent since last year. The government also cut a fuel subsidy for low-income families earlier this month. Some Greeks buy cheap firewood; others used their discarded Christmas trees as kindling. The most desperate are burning old furniture and raiding protected forests. Someone even hacked away the remains of a 3,000-year-old olive tree where Plato is said to have taught. |
Mind Control User ID: 21051903 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont blame it to illuminati or any ruling group, most distruction was made by ignorant mob.. unfortunately the same we see today Quoting: Ostria1 The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. I wish they did receive money.. at least we would say they did/do it to feed their families. But this is not the case. ![]() Last Edited by Mind Control on 10/09/2013 10:35 AM “Our minds have been poisoned and our accepted beliefs are unnatural and artificial.” - Bryant McGill Stop governments from spying on you by encrypting your communications: [link to prism-break.org] |
Earth Daughter User ID: 48036489 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the burning of the library of alexandria Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19416029 that's not even mentioned and it should be #1. And all the Incan and Mayan codex that were burned and destroyed on purpose by the conquerers. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
Earth Daughter User ID: 48036489 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont blame it to illuminati or any ruling group, most distruction was made by ignorant mob.. unfortunately the same we see today Quoting: Ostria1 The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. Most times the destruction is done in the name of religion, because a) The religion goes against those of the conquerers and/or b) They wanted to cover up that the culture was indeed educated and cultured and instead wanted to portray them as ignorant barbarians in need of 'saving'. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
Ostria1 User ID: 48107682 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:50 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, preservation a fairly new idea. Good thing there was intervention in the building of the Aswan Dam. Lots of stuff would have been submerged. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7907030 I also don't think it has been all that long that modern city of Rome really recognized the cultural significance of all the ruins around them. Some were preserved in the past but in a different way. The locals had heard the old stories and because they were superstitious they just let such ancient ruins alone. Even in ancient times there was an interest as we find in Pausania's books, when he writes the old oral stories of the places he visits and asks the people to show him what has remained of old cities, temples etc. Ostria |
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Ostria1 User ID: 48107682 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:53 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont blame it to illuminati or any ruling group, most distruction was made by ignorant mob.. unfortunately the same we see today Quoting: Ostria1 The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. I wish they did receive money.. at least we would say they did/do it to feed their families. But this is not the case. ![]() I dont know the details of the story but do you mean that he took money to destroy the pyramid? i hardly beleive that. Ostria |
Mind Control User ID: 21051903 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont blame it to illuminati or any ruling group, most distruction was made by ignorant mob.. unfortunately the same we see today Quoting: Ostria1 The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. Most times the destruction is done in the name of religion, because a) The religion goes against those of the conquerers and/or b) They wanted to cover up that the culture was indeed educated and cultured and instead wanted to portray them as ignorant barbarians in need of 'saving'. I don't blame religion. It's tyrants that order the cause. They do it intelligently by portraying everyone not of their tribe as Barbarians, as you say. “Our minds have been poisoned and our accepted beliefs are unnatural and artificial.” - Bryant McGill Stop governments from spying on you by encrypting your communications: [link to prism-break.org] |
Ostria1 User ID: 48107682 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:56 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is some vulgar stuff: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7907030 [link to m.npr.org] Published: January 22, 2013 by Joanna Kakissis In this winter of austerity and Depression-era unemployment, a fog of woodsmoke hangs over the Greek capital on cold nights. It's coming from the tens of thousands of fireplaces and wood-burning stoves Athenians are using to heat their homes. Most can no longer afford heating oil, the price of which has risen 40 percent since last year. The government also cut a fuel subsidy for low-income families earlier this month. Some Greeks buy cheap firewood; others used their discarded Christmas trees as kindling. The most desperate are burning old furniture and raiding protected forests. Someone even hacked away the remains of a 3,000-year-old olive tree where Plato is said to have taught. True and this shows how ignorant people are. Though this olive tree was already destroyed back in 1974 when a bus run into it. The remains of the tree are in the museum and i think this was a branch of it they planted again there. Ostria |
Ostria1 User ID: 48107682 ![]() 10/09/2013 10:58 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont blame it to illuminati or any ruling group, most distruction was made by ignorant mob.. unfortunately the same we see today Quoting: Ostria1 The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. Most times the destruction is done in the name of religion, because a) The religion goes against those of the conquerers and/or b) They wanted to cover up that the culture was indeed educated and cultured and instead wanted to portray them as ignorant barbarians in need of 'saving'. I don't blame religion. It's tyrants that order the cause. They do it intelligently by portraying everyone not of their tribe as Barbarians, as you say. This is true, we have seen it many times. But usually it is not a direct order (this is what i was refering to) Ostria |
Mind Control User ID: 21051903 ![]() 10/09/2013 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mind Control The mobs receive money for doing it... The controlling groups, or the Illuminati, doesn't want us to know the truth of our origins, and who we really are. I wish they did receive money.. at least we would say they did/do it to feed their families. But this is not the case. ![]() I dont know the details of the story but do you mean that he took money to destroy the pyramid? i hardly beleive that. Denny Grijalba who bulldozed the Pyramid recieves a salary from the Construction firm, so yes. “Our minds have been poisoned and our accepted beliefs are unnatural and artificial.” - Bryant McGill Stop governments from spying on you by encrypting your communications: [link to prism-break.org] |
Ostria1 User ID: 48107682 ![]() 10/09/2013 11:32 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Denny Grijalba who bulldozed the Pyramid recieves a salary from the Construction firm, so yes. Quoting: Mind Control So if you work for a company and kill someone, I must blame the company for the murder? Not unless i have enough evidence to claim that it was an order to kill. Anyway, we should also keep in mind that in some countries or areas, it is hard to built anything because when you dig the ground you find ancient ruins. When you find something like this in your plot you stop the construction works and call the archeaological service, which will start the digging itself and after months or so, if the site is not too important they take the findings and let you cover the rest and build what you want to build on top, or they take your plot (i guess they give you a compensation. Ostria |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21051903 ![]() 10/09/2013 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Denny Grijalba who bulldozed the Pyramid recieves a salary from the Construction firm, so yes. Quoting: Mind Control So if you work for a company and kill someone, I must blame the company for the murder? Not unless i have enough evidence to claim that it was an order to kill. Anyway, we should also keep in mind that in some countries or areas, it is hard to built anything because when you dig the ground you find ancient ruins. When you find something like this in your plot you stop the construction works and call the archeaological service, which will start the digging itself and after months or so, if the site is not too important they take the findings and let you cover the rest and build what you want to build on top, or they take your plot (i guess they give you a compensation. As in your example, do I blame the mercenary or his boss? The mercenary is essentially motivated by money and private gain. The boss motivated the killing, and paid for the crime. The boss could have just paid for another mercenary. Both of them are guilty. This isn't the first time a Pyramid in Central America was bulldozed by a construction firm. Bulldozing Maya mounds for road fill is an endemic problem in Belize (the whole of the San Estevan center has gone, both of the major pyramids at Louisville, other structures at Nohmul, many smaller sites). Make the connections. |