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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ

 
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Confirmation of what many have always thought: Relgions were created by man to control society. A bunch of ancient crap designed to make you feel good.
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It's quite possible. Many have written about it. You don't need any confessions, just weight on the facts.
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Why did the Nazis chase after the spear of destiny (lance used to poke Jesus?).

Fact remains....exorcisms know that only "in Jesus name" can you run off a demon...???!!!
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End times march on, if this goes mainstream its the final confirmation I needed
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I find it amusing how humanity is trying to take credit for EVERYTHING now.

They can't function as a society or race, can't help but destroy and poison their own planet and yet, we are to believe they "created" God.

LOL

This is confirmation of the end, it really is.

It's much like the legend of Atlantis before their complete destruction, where they disrespected the gods and declared themselves the pinnacle of creation and gods in their own right... and they were wiped clean from the face of the earth.

Destroyed like little ants.

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Oh please, no one can prove or confirm any of those alleged stories about 'Atlantis'...'Legends' are synonymous with folkore, they are not assumed to be historical accounts, but stories that cannot be verified or proven and whereby the value is rooted in the narrative/message itself - not in the assumed authenticity of the story/event. You just want to see humanity wiped out so I'm not surprised you believe it to be true. The dancing bananas you like to post are quite revealing of your excitement over this.

It's far more realistic and logical to explore the likelihood that past civilizations were wiped out by reoccurring planetary and cosmic catastrophes ('events') caused by the cyclical movement of our solar system through the galaxy. None of this B.S. about mocking and upsetting the fragile ego's of mythological 'God(s)'.... In ancient times the peoples of those days would experience volcanos, droughts, earthquakes, and solar events and assume them to be the willful actions of anthropomorphic 'Gods' who were angry at them - then they would likely start sacrificing shit to appease them... Have we not outgrown this primitive understanding of the Earth and the cosmos?

This is a dimension/plane of non-intervention - it is not designed to preserve life at all costs but to continue to cycle of death & rebirth (regeneration).

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Very nicely said!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Confirmation of what many have always thought: Relgions were created by man to control society. A bunch of ancient crap designed to make you feel good.
 Quoting: Kybeam 40489289


By the fallens/demons/"aliens" to control people,usurp energy and mess up their free will.


Jesus this Jesus that, if he was for real he would have wanted you to worship God and God only, not him.
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Here's my take on all this.

Palestine was only a minor concern to Rome. That Rome would expend too much effort to concoct some grand scheme seems odd. Rome could simply (and did) march a legion or two in, rough up some folks, take some prisoners and make them slaves, and move on to more important things.

In the first century Rome was at it's prime. It's supremacy was uncontested and the empire stretched literally the entire circumference of the Med. It's just hard to believe that Rome was so concerned with piddly Palestine.
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The title is misleading. It makes it seem like the scholar found a specific ancient text that has a "confession" in it. bsflag
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Total BS. Dude obviously selling a book, tickets to lectures, what have you. Always follow the money.
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What a bombshell! That being said you will never sway a 'believer' no matter how much evidence. Belief in these religious systems is a mental disorder and has anyone seen a mental disorder cured with evidence? Don't get me wrong this news is a good step, in fact it might highlight the seriousness of mental illness and religion and instigate new research for a cure.
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Needs to be pinned.


"Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
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What a bombshell! That being said you will never sway a 'believer' no matter how much evidence. Belief in these religious systems is a mental disorder and has anyone seen a mental disorder cured with evidence? Don't get me wrong this news is a good step, in fact it might highlight the seriousness of mental illness and religion and instigate new research for a cure.
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Lol...

It's a bombshell that a guy has a theory that Jesus never existed?

Read the article ....no proof ...just a theory
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What a bombshell! That being said you will never sway a 'believer' no matter how much evidence. Belief in these religious systems is a mental disorder and has anyone seen a mental disorder cured with evidence? Don't get me wrong this news is a good step, in fact it might highlight the seriousness of mental illness and religion and instigate new research for a cure.
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Lol...

It's a bombshell that a guy has a theory that Jesus never existed?

Read the article ....no proof ...just a theory
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laughlaugh

Yep!
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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What a bombshell! That being said you will never sway a 'believer' no matter how much evidence. Belief in these religious systems is a mental disorder and has anyone seen a mental disorder cured with evidence? Don't get me wrong this news is a good step, in fact it might highlight the seriousness of mental illness and religion and instigate new research for a cure.
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Lol...

It's a bombshell that a guy has a theory that Jesus never existed?

Read the article ....no proof ...just a theory
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Interesting. What would you consider irrefutable proof? I suspect no amount of proof would satisfy you.
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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Obviously, it's the only part of their legacy that is in tact.
They had to change face
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What unbelievable bullshit!

Ask anyone who actually has a relationship with Jesus if Jesus is nothing more than a government project developed by first century Roman elistists. Go ahead.

People who doubt the existence of Christ and that the Bible is God-inspired have never lived their lives walking with the Saviour or had to rely on the insight and strength that only the truth of passages in the Bible provide.

Why would you even entertain ANY mere mortal man who wishes to inform you that [he knows best and] your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ never existed?

These men who are going to speak at the conference in London and claim that Jesus Christ is simply a fabrication of the Roman elite had better be aware that they are committing the worst of all blasphemies and their actions will put their immortal souls at risk.
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As I said in another thread about this...

It makes no sense considering that Jesus did not promote anything Roman and in fact Rome was against Christianity at first and killed many Christians. So ask yourself, if Rome created Christianity, why would they then try to stop it by killing it's believers?

Jesus did exist and he was a Jew and he promoted the Jewish laws and understanding of those laws as well as mercy and righteousness of the God of the bible, but promoted nothing of Roman ways. In fact when Rome finally accepted Christianity as it's "religion" it did so by corrupting it and mixing it's current gods and beliefs of paganism and turned it into something very un-christian. So why would they do that if they created it in the first place?

Roman Catholicism came from Rome yet most of it's fundamental teachings are not taught in the bible.

People can deny reality and truth all they want with whatever reasoning they create but in the end they will be guilty of denying the simple in-your-face truth of God and his plan of salvation.


This really is not a new idea but it is just that, an idea based on basically zero evidence, much like most Atheist claims against Christianity and the bible. This is usually because of ignorance of the truth and the God of the bible.

Of course no Atheist would ever acknowledge that it's extremely convenient that this so called fabrication just so happened to be made at the exact time the ancient Hebrew texts (which predate the Roman empire mind you) would predict the first coming of the Messiah who would be as a lamb sacrificed for the sins of many.

I also find it extremely unlikely that the Roman leaders understood the ancient Hebrew texts as deeply and thoroughly as is portrayed in the new testament by Jesus and others.

This idea that Jesus was "fabricated" by the Roman elite is obviously built on top of ignorance by those who believe it's claims.

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number of problems with his hypotheses.
the Matthew scroll seems to prove that the original versions of the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts, and Revelation where in fact written in Hebrew and is the earliest Christian document dated at about the second century. they are direct copies of the original documents that were circulated in the beginning of the first church. direct quotes of Messiah.

I will be glad to read this failed web sight to see if there are any nuggets of truth to this, but I am sure that it will not pass the scrutiny of more that a few weeks when released.
May salvation be yours in Yahushua Ha Mashiach
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What unbelievable bullshit!

Ask anyone who actually has a relationship with Jesus if Jesus is nothing more than a government project developed by first century Roman elistists. Go ahead.

People who doubt the existence of Christ and that the Bible is God-inspired have never lived their lives walking with the Saviour or had to rely on the insight and strength that only the truth of passages in the Bible provide.

Why would you even entertain ANY mere mortal man who wishes to inform you that [he knows best and] your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ never existed?

These men who are going to speak at the conference in London and claim that Jesus Christ is simply a fabrication of the Roman elite had better be aware that they are committing the worst of all blasphemies and their actions will put their immortal souls at risk.
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Sure, sure. ohyeah

Bet they are quaking in their boots.
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As I said in another thread about this...

It makes no sense considering that Jesus did not promote anything Roman and in fact Rome was against Christianity at first and killed many Christians. So ask yourself, if Rome created Christianity, why would they then try to stop it by killing it's believers?

Jesus did exist and he was a Jew and he promoted the Jewish laws and understanding of those laws as well as mercy and righteousness of the God of the bible, but promoted nothing of Roman ways. In fact when Rome finally accepted Christianity as it's "religion" it did so by corrupting it and mixing it's current gods and beliefs of paganism and turned it into something very un-christian. So why would they do that if they created it in the first place?

Roman Catholicism came from Rome yet most of it's fundamental teachings are not taught in the bible.

People can deny reality and truth all they want with whatever reasoning they create but in the end they will be guilty of denying the simple in-your-face truth of God and his plan of salvation.


This really is not a new idea but it is just that, an idea based on basically zero evidence, much like most Atheist claims against Christianity and the bible. This is usually because of ignorance of the truth and the God of the bible.

Of course no Atheist would ever acknowledge that it's extremely convenient that this so called fabrication just so happened to be made at the exact time the ancient Hebrew texts (which predate the Roman empire mind you) would predict the first coming of the Messiah who would be as a lamb sacrificed for the sins of many.

I also find it extremely unlikely that the Roman leaders understood the ancient Hebrew texts as deeply and thoroughly as is portrayed in the new testament by Jesus and others.

This idea that Jesus was "fabricated" by the Roman elite is obviously built on top of ignorance by those who believe it's claims.

 Quoting: Veresanctus


hesright

as many of the words of Messiah are satirical puns on Hebrew stories and words used in Hebrew, the earliest writings are found in the Matthew scroll. which is Hebrew. and the first real stand the the first and early church's was against the incorporation of the Church under Roman rule. this is why we have accounts of Christians singing hymns as they are led into the Colosseum to killed for sport.

the first Christian revolt was over TAXES!!! and the authority of the Roman Emperor to have Messiah pay a tax.

so he is right.
May salvation be yours in Yahushua Ha Mashiach
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Confirmation of what many have always thought: Relgions were created by man to control society. A bunch of ancient crap designed to make you feel good.
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hesright
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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No, they don't. Nor does anyone else.
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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Bullshit.

It's quite the opposite, actually. Nowhere in the Roman records is there any mention of the guy.

The whole Christianity thing is a rewrite of the ancient pagan sun worship.
Watch Zeitgeist.

Oh, and a word for the admins - go FUCK yourselves. You know why.
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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Bullshit.

It's quite the opposite, actually. Nowhere in the Roman records is there any mention of the guy.

The whole Christianity thing is a rewrite of the ancient pagan sun worship.
Watch Zeitgeist.

Oh, and a word for the admins - go FUCK yourselves. You know why.
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No that was the correction to pagan sun worship from Himself, the one who told the Hebrews, before they split, that he is within, arrived/.
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There is something much higher than the suns you guys worship at play here. Doesn't take believer to feel the energi
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We will hear more of this type of BS as Antichrist rises to power. It won't be too long before he reveals himself.
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Is that right?
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Jesus Christ was an alcoholic author. Son of the devil he turned wine into water

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I wrote on a piece of paper yesterday. It said "Women have penises". I'm going to bury the piece of paper. In 2000 years, someone will find the piece of paper. After that, people will believe that women had penises 2000 years ago.

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's truth. People lied back then too believe it or not.
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End times march on, if this goes mainstream its the final confirmation I needed
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Very interesting.

Thanks, OP.
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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Bullshit.

It's quite the opposite, actually. Nowhere in the Roman records is there any mention of the guy.

The whole Christianity thing is a rewrite of the ancient pagan sun worship.
Watch Zeitgeist.

Oh, and a word for the admins - go FUCK yourselves. You know why.
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OH SHIT ZEITGIEST!! You believe only what you choose to believe,
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Jesus life is as much as real as our lives.

Without him what faith would future generations have? What powers of Good would make the people hearts shine? What will would make people hold on when tribulation and evil knock at their doors? What shoulder would lift up man when he is desperate?

He gave to the people hope and knowledge about God that was being lost through times.

He is The True example of what man should be.

To deny his existence will certainly create deslusion, wars, hatred and lack of hope.

Millions if not billions of lives rest their faith on jesus shoulders!

To be honest with you All i know the hope rests in our own hands. I have the command of All my life, that was given by God, so the responsability is All mine.

Whatever people in general are ignorant. They constantly throw their tribulations , sins, problems, cravings and materialism on God not assuming that these originate on man and not on God. They create an vicious cycle.

To pray and sin to pray and sin to pray and sin...
That is the same as NOTHING!

When you aproach God in Hypocrisy do you expect to have any response?? Regenarate yourselves first, fight against your own temptations, change into an better human! That is the message that Jesus came here to tell us.

Believe in Jesus, try to understand his sacrifice, his lessons, that way many people can be saved because believing in jesus is believing in God.

Do this on your own Free will and not in opression.

Goodbye
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I wrote on a piece of paper yesterday. It said "Women have penises". I'm going to bury the piece of paper. In 2000 years, someone will find the piece of paper. After that, people will believe that women had penises 2000 years ago.

Just because it's old doesn't mean it's truth. People lied back then too believe it or not.
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hesright





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