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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ

 
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There is nothing in this world that would convince a christian otherwise.

Blind faith and it's belief system has tenticles that reach far and wide.

It's like the blind leading the blind...
The stench from it's aura that surrouds the catholic church and it's belief systems is the most degrading reality...and the fools that follow it have been hoodwinked for centuries.

Thank fuck it's about to end.
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From the text: "Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break."

That sounds like a pretty clear agenda: atheist enrollment.

I recall reading on this site and on a few others the posts of some enigmatic individuals who, a number of years back, intoned that several documents were going to be revealed in the near future that would "destroy Christianity".

It seems quite clear to me that there is an ongoing effort to systematically dismantle, by hook or by crook, belief in God. This speaks volumes as to the future, where the only intended "god" will be the government.
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From the text: "Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break."

That sounds like a pretty clear agenda: atheist enrollment.

I recall reading on this site and on a few others the posts of some enigmatic individuals who, a number of years back, intoned that several documents were going to be revealed in the near future that would "destroy Christianity".

It seems quite clear to me that there is an ongoing effort to systematically dismantle, by hook or by crook, belief in God. This speaks volumes as to the future, where the only intended "god" will be the government.
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It will take more than that guy to dismantle the aura of tha catholic systems.

People are set in concrete when it comes down to a strong belief system.

It's not about dismantling a so called god...eventually...a false concept self distructs within it's own foolish system base.

This is happenning in our own time frame.
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That sounds like a pretty clear agenda: atheist enrollment.



It seems quite clear to me that there is an ongoing effort to systematically dismantle, by hook or by crook, belief in God. This speaks volumes as to the future, where the only intended "god" will be the government.
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Dismantling the Jesus tale in no way dismantles a belief in "God", whatever "God" may be.

If the Jesus tale is faked, and it certainly seems to be a re-telling of much older stories, that would not mean "God" does not exist.
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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Bullshit.

It's quite the opposite, actually. Nowhere in the Roman records is there any mention of the guy.

The whole Christianity thing is a rewrite of the ancient pagan sun worship.
Watch Zeitgeist.

Oh, and a word for the admins - go FUCK yourselves. You know why.
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Don't believe everything you see on the internet on face value. Zeitgeist is a lie on parts about Christianity taking parts of other religions, just ask the experts and they will tell you there is NOTHING in common between Christianity and any other religion.

Don't believe me? Watch this video then come back to me...



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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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End times march on, if this goes mainstream its the final confirmation I needed
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Seems like the egyptians also invented Osiris story much earlier...Oh wait,did it really happen? Or not?!... I don't know!!!! I wasn't there!!!!!! Pfffffff...
True story or not, Christ's teachings are true life lessons. That's what really matters because when we all die,then we will be sure of everything!The lies and deceptions!
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That sounds like a pretty clear agenda: atheist enrollment.



It seems quite clear to me that there is an ongoing effort to systematically dismantle, by hook or by crook, belief in God. This speaks volumes as to the future, where the only intended "god" will be the government.
 Quoting: ??? 48154836


Dismantling the Jesus tale in no way dismantles a belief in "God", whatever "God" may be.

If the Jesus tale is faked, and it certainly seems to be a re-telling of much older stories, that would not mean "God" does not exist.

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Spot on Germany!!!!!!
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End times march on, if this goes mainstream its the final confirmation I needed
[link to uk.prweb.com]
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Covert Messiah summerises everything I have been saying about Christianity on GLP for years now.

Titus and Josephus invented Christianity and Constantine's council named this god Jesus Christ.
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Anybody want to read the original Luke?

It is called Lucius Plutarchus' Moralia.
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Jesus Christ stood for the absolute opposite of what Rome stood for. Quite possibly the dumbest attempt to discredit Jesus of all time.
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Jesus Christ stood for the absolute opposite of what Rome stood for. Quite possibly the dumbest attempt to discredit Jesus of all time.
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Exactly!
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Who benefits with that "story"? Ask yourselves this question.
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That sounds like a pretty clear agenda: atheist enrollment.



It seems quite clear to me that there is an ongoing effort to systematically dismantle, by hook or by crook, belief in God. This speaks volumes as to the future, where the only intended "god" will be the government.
 Quoting: ??? 48154836


Dismantling the Jesus tale in no way dismantles a belief in "God", whatever "God" may be.

If the Jesus tale is faked, and it certainly seems to be a re-telling of much older stories, that would not mean "God" does not exist.
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The tale of Jesus is a collection of many stories. Some are of Apollonius. Some are from the life of Josephus. Some are of Vespasian and Titus. Others are of Yeshu Ben Stada Pantera, yet others are of Odyssius and Mythras and Bacchus.
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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You talkin about the same romans who slaughtered hundreds of millions who knew the truth and knew it was a hoax???
IS that who you are talkin about??
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Real quick, try to keep it simple:

Jesus is the Zodiac fulfilled in flesh; As Above, so below

One amazing birthchart with all the proper correspondences and alignments in the heavens at the meridian of time in our age.

People knew of this celestial play since Adamic times and anticipated the messiah who would restore fallen humanity.

Between, then, Adamic society and 0 A.D., many "almost" messiahs came, spoke, went and left behind cults. Why?

Gonna say it slow:

Zodiac...is...cyclical.... So every so often you would have a birth chart that was amazingly close to Christ, producing all sorts of quasi-Messiahs.

Mystery School Adepts would guide these almost Messiahs to live the life that was deduced from Astrological study.
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What unbelievable bullshit!

Ask anyone who actually has a relationship with Jesus if Jesus is nothing more than a government project developed by first century Roman elistists. Go ahead.

People who doubt the existence of Christ and that the Bible is God-inspired have never lived their lives walking with the Saviour or had to rely on the insight and strength that only the truth of passages in the Bible provide.

Why would you even entertain ANY mere mortal man who wishes to inform you that [he knows best and] your Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ never existed?

These men who are going to speak at the conference in London and claim that Jesus Christ is simply a fabrication of the Roman elite had better be aware that they are committing the worst of all blasphemies and their actions will put their immortal souls at risk.
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my god... you are one poor brainwashed sheep
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There is evidence of the name of Jesus Christ being used after 325. That is because Jesus Christ is an invention.
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The problem with this idea is that the Romans actually have documented evidence that Christ lived.
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You talkin about the same romans who slaughtered hundreds of millions who knew the truth and knew it was a hoax???
IS that who you are talkin about??
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Jesus kills people too
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You guys do realize Jesus is NOT God, don't you.

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You guys do realize Jesus is NOT God, don't you.

tounge
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Right! The trinity was agreed upon: the Nician creed promoted the Jesus character to God status.

Also, Josephus did not lie. He never put Jesus into his historical accounts...someone else inserted and played with his accounts.
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The crazies are coming out of the woodwork for this one.

I thought everyone knew that humans made it up to control the populace. It's not a hard idea to grasp. I mean look at the people in this thread. They believe it to be true without any shred of evidence. To the point where they get angry and curse anyone that disagrees! As if ANYONE knows the absolute truth of how we were created. With all of what we know at this point in time, it's blind ignorance that keeps people in their religious bubble. Nothing we say or do can free them.

Now think about how little we knew back when they introduced the bible. People choose to believe in it because they are selfish and want to take the easy way out of life. I'll tell you a secret, your life here on earth can be heaven or hell. Being a good person and following your heart leads to heaven. Lying, cheating, treating people like crap, being a shitty person in general, will turn your life into hell.

It's on YOU, not some fictional character that tells you that you can be a piece of shit but ask forgiveness and be fine. Guess what, you're still going to die unhappy and unfulfilled. Your own self imposed ignorance inducing hell.

hf
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The crazies are coming out of the woodwork for this one.

I thought everyone knew that humans made it up to control the populace. It's not a hard idea to grasp. I mean look at the people in this thread. They believe it to be true without any shred of evidence. To the point where they get angry and curse anyone that disagrees! As if ANYONE knows the absolute truth of how we were created. With all of what we know at this point in time, it's blind ignorance that keeps people in their religious bubble. Nothing we say or do can free them.

Now think about how little we knew back when they introduced the bible. People choose to believe in it because they are selfish and want to take the easy way out of life. I'll tell you a secret, your life here on earth can be heaven or hell. Being a good person and following your heart leads to heaven. Lying, cheating, treating people like crap, being a shitty person in general, will turn your life into hell.

It's on YOU, not some fictional character that tells you that you can be a piece of shit but ask forgiveness and be fine. Guess what, you're still going to die unhappy and unfulfilled. Your own self imposed ignorance inducing hell.

hf
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Okay, thanks!
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You guys do realize Jesus is NOT God, don't you.

tounge
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Jesus is not God but he is a god.
Jesus works for Good therefore he works for God.

Humans choose gods in ignorance, but even if they choose Jesus as God, if it is for an good purpose, for their well being then they are accepted by God.

The path for God as many ways, leading man somewhere as he strives forth along the road.
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You guys do realize Jesus is NOT God, don't you.

tounge
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Jesus is not God but he is a god.
Jesus works for Good therefore he works for God.

Humans choose gods in ignorance, but even if they choose Jesus as God, if it is for an good purpose, for their well being then they are accepted by God.

The path for God as many ways, leading man somewhere as he strives forth along the road.
 Quoting: Warrior of Truth 1308919


He is not a god.
Period the end.
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Real quick, try to keep it simple:

Jesus is the Zodiac fulfilled in flesh; As Above, so below

One amazing birthchart with all the proper correspondences and alignments in the heavens at the meridian of time in our age.

People knew of this celestial play since Adamic times and anticipated the messiah who would restore fallen humanity.

Between, then, Adamic society and 0 A.D., many "almost" messiahs came, spoke, went and left behind cults. Why?

Gonna say it slow:

Zodiac...is...cyclical.... So every so often you would have a birth chart that was amazingly close to Christ, producing all sorts of quasi-Messiahs.

Mystery School Adepts would guide these almost Messiahs to live the life that was deduced from Astrological study.
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Nice try but sorry you are wrong, see my post above and watch the video.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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To whomever gave me the negative karma, may I suggest that you consider the concept of forgiveness and love. This was one of Jesus's main precepts yes?

In other words:

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The crazies are coming out of the woodwork for this one.

I thought everyone knew that humans made it up to control the populace. It's not a hard idea to grasp. I mean look at the people in this thread. They believe it to be true without any shred of evidence. To the point where they get angry and curse anyone that disagrees! As if ANYONE knows the absolute truth of how we were created. With all of what we know at this point in time, it's blind ignorance that keeps people in their religious bubble. Nothing we say or do can free them.

Now think about how little we knew back when they introduced the bible. People choose to believe in it because they are selfish and want to take the easy way out of life. I'll tell you a secret, your life here on earth can be heaven or hell. Being a good person and following your heart leads to heaven. Lying, cheating, treating people like crap, being a shitty person in general, will turn your life into hell.

It's on YOU, not some fictional character that tells you that you can be a piece of shit but ask forgiveness and be fine. Guess what, you're still going to die unhappy and unfulfilled. Your own self imposed ignorance inducing hell.

hf
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As I said before This idea that Jesus was "fabricated" by the Roman elite is obviously built on top of ignorance by those who believe it's claims.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Real quick, try to keep it simple:

Jesus is the Zodiac fulfilled in flesh; As Above, so below

One amazing birthchart with all the proper correspondences and alignments in the heavens at the meridian of time in our age.

People knew of this celestial play since Adamic times and anticipated the messiah who would restore fallen humanity.

Between, then, Adamic society and 0 A.D., many "almost" messiahs came, spoke, went and left behind cults. Why?

Gonna say it slow:

Zodiac...is...cyclical.... So every so often you would have a birth chart that was amazingly close to Christ, producing all sorts of quasi-Messiahs.

Mystery School Adepts would guide these almost Messiahs to live the life that was deduced from Astrological study.
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Nice try but sorry you are wrong, see my post above and watch the video.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I've watched that video many times, and I'm not wrong. You're not understanding what I'm saying, and I'm on your side.
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Real quick, try to keep it simple:

Jesus is the Zodiac fulfilled in flesh; As Above, so below

One amazing birthchart with all the proper correspondences and alignments in the heavens at the meridian of time in our age.

People knew of this celestial play since Adamic times and anticipated the messiah who would restore fallen humanity.

Between, then, Adamic society and 0 A.D., many "almost" messiahs came, spoke, went and left behind cults. Why?

Gonna say it slow:

Zodiac...is...cyclical.... So every so often you would have a birth chart that was amazingly close to Christ, producing all sorts of quasi-Messiahs.

Mystery School Adepts would guide these almost Messiahs to live the life that was deduced from Astrological study.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Nice try but sorry you are wrong, see my post above and watch the video.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I've watched that video many times, and I'm not wrong. You're not understanding what I'm saying, and I'm on your side.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


I apologize if I misread your statements it's hard to tell since many believe that the bible is simply fabricated based on the zodiac and equinox etc.

It is true that God is the one who placed those signs in the heavens and even into stone in the great pyramid as a visual record of the salvation of mankind.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26





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