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Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"

 
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Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
Lt. J. Paul Vance, updating reporters:

"The secondary crime scene, as I told you, was a crime scene that was discovered pursuant to the investigation. Once we had a tentative identification on the suspect, we began doing a great deal of work. Again, peeling back the onion--everything we could find out about that suspect, including and not limited to relatives, friends, co-workers, um former students...location of residence, and all those areas, people had to be--people had to be interviewed, and all those areas had to be examined. Hence, that caused us to discover the secondary crime scene, which was a private residence with a sole female, deceased."

[link to audio.wbur.org]

There are a number of things that stick out here.

First off - co-workers? Did one of the suspects have co-workers? Vance makes it sound very much as if he did.

Secondly, former students? Students of what institution? Is he talking about Newtown High School? Cops don't even know the suspect's address, but they know he is a "former student" and are immediately able to find his former classmates? That's just bizarre. It may have something to do with reports that the purple van went to the high school first. Possibly the studetns at the high school 12/14 who reported the van recognized the occupants as older, former students, and told Vance the names of some of the van group's old buddies at the school? Maybe those high schoolers who reported the van, in fact, are the ones who reported the occupants as armed, and dressed like nuns. Maybe the reason they knew what former students Vance should talk to is because they heard of the plot ahead of time, and knew it was some 20-something ex-Newtown High students who had been talking about "getting famous" or something to that effect.

Thirdly, Nancy Lanza's car was allegedly at the high school. If they had a tentative ID on a dead Lanza boy, and Nancy Lanza's car sitting in the parking lot, what the hell do they need to interview a bunch of former high school students and co-workers for? Wouldn't you just dispatch an officer at top speed to 39 Yogananda the minute you run the plate? I mean, they spotted weapons in the vehicle upon arrival (Penna's story). Is there any question this is a suspect vehicle, and is there any question that someone should immediately go to the residence?

If you know all these people you should interview--family, co-workers, and former students--then you sure as hell know who you think you have lying dead there, and you just drive to his house. His mom's car is right there in front of your eyes, filled with guns.
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Re: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
What if this was a bunch of Kliebold-types who wanted to conduct a mass shooting, thought up the idea of using the perfect patsy--a dweeb they all remembered--and went to the high school first, but it was too busy, so they went to Sandy Hook instead? They might very well also have cruised bySt. Rose. Maybe they meant to hit more than one school and therefore be more famous than any other school shooter in history.

There are a lot of characters in this story with connections to the high school--the Hoaglands, Manfredonias, Novia, possibly the Berkshire Rd incident; it is a small town, certainly, but I've often wondered why the "high school" thread seemed so strong.

Maybe there is no Adam and never was, and this is Richard Novia's ultimate tech club project with a bunch of former students--pulling off the perfect crime, using technology to create a non-existent patsy, and fool the whole world.
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Re: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
What if this was a bunch of Kliebold-types who wanted to conduct a mass shooting, thought up the idea of using the perfect patsy--a dweeb they all remembered--and went to the high school first, but it was too busy, so they went to Sandy Hook instead? They might very well also have cruised bySt. Rose. Maybe they meant to hit more than one school and therefore be more famous than any other school shooter in history.

There are a lot of characters in this story with connections to the high school--the Hoaglands, Manfredonias, Novia, possibly the Berkshire Rd incident; it is a small town, certainly, but I've often wondered why the "high school" thread seemed so strong.

Maybe there is no Adam and never was, and this is Richard Novia's ultimate tech club project with a bunch of former students--pulling off the perfect crime, using technology to create a non-existent patsy, and fool the whole world.
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And guarantee that Newtown finally knuckle under and put in the rest of the camera systems he always raved about.

It's worth noting Hochsprung's friend, Stomski:

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Dawn Hochsprung Friend, Security Company Owner, Seeks Input On School Safety

January 17, 2013|By DAVE ALTIMARI, [email protected], The Hartford Courant

WOODBURY - — On Dec. 14, as he listened to a state police scanner document the shooting at Newtown's Sandy Hook Elementary School, [Gerald] Stomski said he knew exactly what Hochsprung would be doing – trying to stop the shooter from getting to her students.

"As I heard what was going on in Sandy Hook I just wanted to puke,'' Stomski said. "Dawn did everything in her means that day and her actions clearly saved lives. But the devil got in anyway."

...Stomski has worked in the security field for 12 years. He owns Advanced Automated Security Systems LLC and has four patents pending regarding access control systems, particularly involving passenger screening for airports. He said he believes that airport security technology can be applied to schools.

He is now hoping to play a role in legislative efforts to improve school safety. Gov. Dannel P. Malloy has formed a committee to make recommendations and legislators are expecting multiple bills to be proposed.

...Stomski said part of the problem is that school's mostly rely on administrators, teachers or other support personnel to develop plans for their schools when they should be relying on security professionals.

"The details of security have to go to people in the field. Each school in each town is uniquely different in its security needs. There are different access points, different designs particularly with older schools,'' Stomski said.

One of his proposals is to create a double entrance with a vestibule protected by bullet proof glass. A school visitor would enter through the first door but have to be buzzed in by office personnel to get through the second. Another is to install real-time video streaming to police headquarters from school parking lots to alert police to suspicious visitors before they enter the school.

..."Dawn was always worried about school security. We talked about it often and then for this to happen at her school." Stomski said. "I wouldn't be honoring her if I didn't try to make our schools safer for the next time the devil tries to get in."
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I don't know about y'all but I find his devil imagery pretty gratuitous, considering that he owns a security business.
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Re: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
Thread: Sandy Hook rumors persist that shooter(s) went to Newtown High School first
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Re: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
Could Nancy Lanza's life have been saved if police, having run her plates, had gone immediately to her house?

Vance claims much "hard work" had to be done interviewing "Lanza's" co-workers and former students of something or other, before discovering the secondary crime scene. Wtf is up with that? The car was sitting right there and they ran the plates within three minutes of arrival:


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Re: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
A guess: He is speaking of Ryan Lanza.
But it seems Vance might not have the full story as most players in it. This is the way how a false flag is done. Only a bunch of people know everythign and the rest is kept astray.
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Re: Why did Vance say he interviewed the Sandy Hook shooter's "co-workers," and "former students?"
I find "former students" the most interesting.

Students of what institution? Why would students, specifically, have been relevant to this case? They're looking to make a positive identification of a deceased man at this point, and to find his residence; how do "former students" help with this?

Most importantly, what leads Vance, in the first place, to think of "former students" as being significant at that particular moment?

In the coming days, certainly--building a background on the shooter, interviewing everyone in his past; but at that specific moment, Vance is saying that had to find and question "former students" just to be lead to the shooters correct pace of residence.

That really bespeaks some kind of eyewitness at the high school, I think - someone who recognized the guys in the car or van as former students, and also knew which of those former students' buddies Vance should talk to that very day for more info.





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