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A Christian Exemption To Obamacare Available! Healthcare Sharing Ministries

 
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Healthcare Sharing Ministries!

[link to christiannews.net]

"On pages 107 and 128 of the Affordable Care Act, Christians who participate in healthcare sharing ministries are exempt from the “individual mandate” to obtain health insurance.

The legislation reads, “…Exemptions from Individual Responsibility Requirements — (A) In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry… Such term shall not include any individual for any month if such individual is a member of a health care sharing ministry for the month.”

However, in order to be eligible for the exemption, the healthcare sharing ministry must have been in operation since 1999. There are only three organizations nationwide that qualify under these terms: Samaritan Ministries, Christian Healthcare Ministries and Medi-Share.
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I checked out Christian Healthcare Ministries first ( [link to www.chministries.org] )

Here is their Gold Plan:


Gold = $150.00 per unit, per month
$500 personal responsibility per unit, per year. Total bills incurred per incident must exceed $500.
Includes:
• inpatient and outpatient hospital incidents* and surgery
• medical testing
• maternity (click here for more information)
• physical therapy and home health care (up to 45 visits)
• incident-related doctor's office visits
• incident-related prescriptions


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thank you OP, I will definitely check it out more later.
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Self Pinned...This info should be freakin perma pinned, even if it's an entirely different thread started by a mod.

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Here are links to the only three healthcare sharing ministries exempted:

[link to samaritanministries.org]

[link to www.chministries.org]

[link to mychristiancare.org]
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I saw this last week and took a look into it. If I lose my insurance, this is what I'm getting.
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Bump for later....
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I saw this last week and took a look into it. If I lose my insurance, this is what I'm getting.
 Quoting: ITZCOMING


Oh, and here's an article about the exemption:

[link to www.aapsonline.org]
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IT IS $5000.00 not $500.00
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IT IS $5000.00 not $500.00
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Still way less than the Obamacare deductible.
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I checked into this a few months ago, but I have a pre-existing oondition that they won't cover, which has been true with any other insurance up until the new ACA. Otherwise, I would have gone with it.


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Does this not bring up a red flag to you? Isn't there a place in the bill where you have to get a chip?

Christian's who sign up will be required to acquire this mark??

I mean think about it.. He is trying to suck Christian's in..

Do not be deceived..
Do you have eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart to understand? JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY WAY to SALVATION, DELIVERANCE and PEACE! Soon his grace will be taken from the earth and his WRATH will be poured out. Accept JESUS CHRIST while the GRACE of GOD is still available. May the Peace of God be with you! Love, Pray, Repent and Forgive.
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Does this not bring up a red flag to you? Isn't there a place in the bill where you have to get a chip?

Christian's who sign up will be required to acquire this mark??

I mean think about it.. He is trying to suck Christian's in..

Do not be deceived..
 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


Question EVERYthing.
Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world.

Whatever feels good to your soul, do that.
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IT IS $5000.00 not $500.00
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What? The deductible on that gold plan I pasted?

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I posted about this 2 weeks ago...

There's a lot of risk and BS involved, but I suppose it could just come down to a matter of principal.
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Qualifications for joining are simple. To be CHM members, participating adults must:

• be Christians living by biblical principles
• abstain from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
• follow biblical teaching on the use of alcohol
• attend group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25)
 Quoting: [link to www.chministries.org]



I don't think I qualify.. chuckle
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Qualifications for joining are simple. To be CHM members, participating adults must:

• be Christians living by biblical principles
• abstain from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
• follow biblical teaching on the use of alcohol
• attend group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25)
 Quoting: [link to www.chministries.org]



I don't think I qualify.. chuckle
 Quoting: Tangy


Believe it or not, I don't qualify either. How ironic.
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Question EVERYthing.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper

Including what is the purpose of the exemptions?

Is it truly to accommodate those who are "conscientious objectors" or is it a way to easily identify those who won't comply?

Remember, if you have an exemption, you go in a database as part of that group.
Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning.
You're never too good. You're never not good enough.
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Question EVERYthing.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper

Including what is the purpose of the exemptions?

Is it truly to accommodate those who are "conscientious objectors" or is it a way to easily identify those who won't comply?

Remember, if you have an exemption, you go in a database as part of that group.
 Quoting: ssle


uhoh

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Do they check that you show up in church or are you legit if you just pay the monthly bill and claim to be born again or whatever?
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Qualifications for joining are simple. To be CHM members, participating adults must:

• be Christians living by biblical principles
• abstain from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
• follow biblical teaching on the use of alcohol
• attend group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25)
 Quoting: [link to www.chministries.org]



I don't think I qualify.. chuckle
 Quoting: Tangy


Believe it or not, I don't qualify either. How ironic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


why don't you qualify?
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Question EVERYthing.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper

Including what is the purpose of the exemptions?

Is it truly to accommodate those who are "conscientious objectors" or is it a way to easily identify those who won't comply?

Remember, if you have an exemption, you go in a database as part of that group.
 Quoting: ssle


uhoh


 Quoting: Gator!


Bring it. It's only a matter of time. As it says in the good book don't fear what men can do to your bodies, fear what God can do to your soul.
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Qualifications for joining are simple. To be CHM members, participating adults must:

• be Christians living by biblical principles
• abstain from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
• follow biblical teaching on the use of alcohol
• attend group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25)
 Quoting: [link to www.chministries.org]



I don't think I qualify.. chuckle
 Quoting: Tangy


Believe it or not, I don't qualify either. How ironic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


why don't you qualify?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40845803


1. I don't go to any church
2. I"m a smoker
3. I'll have a glass of wine whenever I feel like it
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Do they check that you show up in church or are you legit if you just pay the monthly bill and claim to be born again or whatever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28862409


That's what i'm wondering. How could they possibly know all of that? I would assume it is honor system and about making your best attempts at a pure lifestyle. Just when you come up with a smoking related illness, fatty liver from drinking, or HIV from rando sex don't expect them to help you. They probably do check for membership in a church though.

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I don't think I qualify.. chuckle
 Quoting: Tangy


Believe it or not, I don't qualify either. How ironic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


why don't you qualify?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40845803


1. I don't go to any church
2. I"m a smoker
3. I'll have a glass of wine whenever I feel like it
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Well, as long as you accept Jesus you will qualify for heaven, and that's the only thing that matters hf
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Believe it or not, I don't qualify either. How ironic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


why don't you qualify?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40845803


1. I don't go to any church
2. I"m a smoker
3. I'll have a glass of wine whenever I feel like it
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Well, as long as you accept Jesus you will qualify for heaven, and that's the only thing that matters hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40845803


Yep!

hf
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Do they check that you show up in church or are you legit if you just pay the monthly bill and claim to be born again or whatever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28862409


That's what i'm wondering. How could they possibly know all of that? I would assume it is honor system and about making your best attempts at a pure lifestyle. Just when you come up with a smoking related illness, fatty liver from drinking, or HIV from rando sex don't expect them to help you. They probably do check for membership in a church though.
 Quoting: Gator!





They require you to have a test that checks for nicotine in your blood.
ENIGMA
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Actually, I love the CS attitude regarding organized medicine, but I can't abide the thing about christianity, and the lack of drug use. I'll become a CSINO. Why not - we have a fake president and fake government, so I'll have a fake christianity.
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Do they check that you show up in church or are you legit if you just pay the monthly bill and claim to be born again or whatever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28862409


That's what i'm wondering. How could they possibly know all of that? I would assume it is honor system and about making your best attempts at a pure lifestyle. Just when you come up with a smoking related illness, fatty liver from drinking, or HIV from rando sex don't expect them to help you. They probably do check for membership in a church though.
 Quoting: Gator!


My understanding of these types of policies is that LOCAL christian groups may require you to meet with them, or be known to them if you belong to their group - meaning they will know if you are just joining it to avoid ACA, or if you are truly a practicing christian.

BTW - is this a CHRISTIAN thing (there ARE christian insurance policies, where everyone helps share the expenses for everyone else - explaining WHY they can't afford to cover those with pre-existing conditions), or a christian SCIENCE thing?

Two totally different species altogether.
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Does this not bring up a red flag to you? Isn't there a place in the bill where you have to get a chip?

Christian's who sign up will be required to acquire this mark??

I mean think about it.. He is trying to suck Christian's in..

Do not be deceived..
 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


Question EVERYthing.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


:shesright-sb:

Exactly!
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Why anyone ....anythings. ....have to dictate to me what im to do with myself?





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