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Belgium to PASS New LAW to Legalize EUTHANASIA of CHILDREN - Even WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT

 
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Belgium to PASS New LAW to Legalize EUTHANASIA of CHILDREN - Even WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
The majority of Belgian citizens say they approve of the law

[link to www.charismanews.com]

Since euthanasia was legalized in Belgium in 2002, Belgians have been euthanized for blindness, depression, anorexia nervosa, and a botched sex-change operation.

Now, Belgians want to allow euthanasia for children.

Under legislation currently being debated in the Belgian Parliament, terminally ill or suffering children under 18 could be euthanized if they request it, their parents consent to it, and an expert deems the child capable of understanding their decision.

The bill is widely supported and is expected to become law.

'Kids Never Choose Death'
Supporters of Belgium's proposed euthanasia law say it is necessary and compassionate, but critics say it is only the next phase in what they call "a culture of death."

What the law will almost assuredly do is make the practice of killing suffering children more common. Some Belgian doctors are already killing newborns with spina bifida at the parents' request.

But the media and the left in Belgium are sending the message that doctors who resist euthanasia are uncaring.
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Wow!


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Once again in history, the Western German border is the line that divides civilization from barbarism

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THose results came form a poll held by RTBF and La Libre Belgique.

38% of the people that took the poll were in favor.

Considering not every Belgian took the poll, I doubt even a quarter of the whole population reads La Libre Belgique ... those 38% is being wrongly put forward as if the majority of the population is in favor of the such a bill.
I have flaws, I was just as surprised as you when I found out!

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Once again in history, the Western German border is the line that divides civilization from barbarism

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Hope that was a joke.
Otherwise you might catch up some history regarding the past century.

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THose results came form a poll held by RTBF and La Libre Belgique.

38% of the people that took the poll were in favor.

Considering not every Belgian took the poll, I doubt even a quarter of the whole population reads La Libre Belgique ... those 38% is being wrongly put forward as if the majority of the population is in favor of the such a bill.
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tHE USUAL GAME OF STASTISTICS, THEN
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Once again in history, the Western German border is the line that divides civilization from barbarism

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 Quoting: Montclair de Rallo-Tubbs 48685179


Hope that was a joke.
Otherwise you might catch up some history regarding the past century.

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Don't bother about lecturing us about WW 2 and alleged Nazi "crimes"

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fuck Iran

we BADLY need to nuke the luvvering fuck out of Belgium.

Iran can wait
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fuck Iran

we BADLY need to nuke the luvvering fuck out of Belgium.

Iran can wait
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They are called the Low Countries for a reason.

At least with these developments Germans no longer have to listen to their moralizing whining. Bunch of pillagers, illgotten wealth and murder their own kids for headaches.

Who's the Nazi now, hypocrites.

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Decadent and lying fucks, but too cowardly to euthanize their uh immigrant "youths" anyway.

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The majority of Belgian citizens say they approve of the law

[link to www.charismanews.com]

Since euthanasia was legalized in Belgium in 2002, Belgians have been euthanized for blindness, depression, anorexia nervosa, and a botched sex-change operation.

Now, Belgians want to allow euthanasia for children.

Under legislation currently being debated in the Belgian Parliament, terminally ill or suffering children under 18 could be euthanized if they request it, their parents consent to it, and an expert deems the child capable of understanding their decision.

The bill is widely supported and is expected to become law.

'Kids Never Choose Death'
Supporters of Belgium's proposed euthanasia law say it is necessary and compassionate, but critics say it is only the next phase in what they call "a culture of death."

What the law will almost assuredly do is make the practice of killing suffering children more common. Some Belgian doctors are already killing newborns with spina bifida at the parents' request.

But the media and the left in Belgium are sending the message that doctors who resist euthanasia are uncaring.
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good, they will kill off the terminally ill and retarded. no reason to keep either alive.
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The majority of Belgian citizens say they approve of the law

[link to www.charismanews.com]

Since euthanasia was legalized in Belgium in 2002, Belgians have been euthanized for blindness, depression, anorexia nervosa, and a botched sex-change operation.

Now, Belgians want to allow euthanasia for children.

Under legislation currently being debated in the Belgian Parliament, terminally ill or suffering children under 18 could be euthanized if they request it, their parents consent to it, and an expert deems the child capable of understanding their decision.

The bill is widely supported and is expected to become law.

'Kids Never Choose Death'
Supporters of Belgium's proposed euthanasia law say it is necessary and compassionate, but critics say it is only the next phase in what they call "a culture of death."

What the law will almost assuredly do is make the practice of killing suffering children more common. Some Belgian doctors are already killing newborns with spina bifida at the parents' request.

But the media and the left in Belgium are sending the message that doctors who resist euthanasia are uncaring.
 Quoting: Geo777


good, they will kill off the terminally ill and retarded. no reason to keep either alive.
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What if they made them ill in the first place ? So you can kill unwanted bloodlines great ! If i were a Globalist i would be happy too!
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This thread alone makes me want to write a book "Belgian Crimes in the Rhineland - Fact, German Crimes in Belgium - Fiction"

Who's bayonneting kids now, assholes

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Belgium considering unprecedented law to grant euthanasia for children, dementia patients

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Should children have the right to ask for their own deaths?

In Belgium, where euthanasia is now legal for people over the age of 18, the government is considering extending it to children — something that no other country has done. The same bill would offer the right to die to adults with early dementia.

Advocates argue that euthanasia for children, with the consent of their parents, is necessary to give families an option in a desperately painful situation. But opponents have questioned whether children can reasonably decide to end their own lives.

Belgium is already a euthanasia pioneer; it legalized the practice for adults in 2002. In the last decade, the number of reported cases per year has risen from 235 deaths in 2003 to 1,432 in 2012, the last year for which statistics are available.

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In Belgium, the ruling Socialist party has proposed the bill expanding the right of euthanasia. The Christian Democratic Flemish party vowed to oppose the legislation and to challenge it in the European Court of Human Rights, if it passes. A final decision must be approved by Parliament and could take months.

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There are others, though, who argue that because Belgium has already approved euthanasia for adults, it is unjust to deny it to children.

“The principle of euthanasia for children sounds shocking at first, but it’s motivated by compassion and protection,” said John Harris, a professor of bioethics at the University of Manchester. “It’s unfair to provide euthanasia differentially to some citizens and not to others (children) if the need is equal.”


And Dr. Gerlant van Berlaer, a pediatric oncologist at the Universitair Ziekenhuis Brussels hospital, says the changes would legalize what is already happening informally. He said cases of euthanasia in children are rare and estimates about 10 to 100 cases in Belgium every year might qualify.

“Children have different ways of asking for things, but they face the same questions as adults when they’re terminally sick,” van Berlaer said. “Sometimes it’s a sister who tells us her brother doesn’t want to go back to the hospital and is asking for a solution,” he said. “Today if these families find themselves (in that situation), we’re not able to help them, except in dark and questionable ways.”

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“But if you don’t let people make decisions that will be respected in the future, including euthanasia, what you do is encourage people to take their own life while they have the capacity or to seek euthanasia much earlier,” she said.

In the past year, several cases of Belgians who weren’t terminally ill but were euthanized — including a pair of 43-year-old deaf twins who were going blind and a patient in a botched sex change operation — have raised concerns the country is becoming too willing to euthanize its citizens. The newest proposals have raised eyebrows even further.

“People elsewhere in Europe are focused on assisted dying for the terminally ill and they are running away from what’s happening in Belgium,” Lewis said. “If the Belgian statutes go ahead, this will be a key boundary that is crossed.”



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THose results came form a poll held by RTBF and La Libre Belgique.

38% of the people that took the poll were in favor.

Considering not every Belgian took the poll, I doubt even a quarter of the whole population reads La Libre Belgique ... those 38% is being wrongly put forward as if the majority of the population is in favor of the such a bill.
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


This appears to be nothing more than saving money under socialist/communist governments why spend money when slaughter of the population would save a few dollars and let me ask you who will gain the people or the government.

Here you can see many links pertaining to euthanasia for children’

Belgium considering controversial new euthanasia law for children
[link to www.foxnews.com]

Belgium to Vote on Child Euthanasia: Are 5-Year-Olds Old Enough to Kill Themselves
[link to www.lifenews.com]

Belgium considering unprecedented law to grant euthanasia for children, dementia patients
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

The inexorable bracket creep of euthanasia in Belgium
[link to www.mercatornet.com]

Euthanasia is out-of-control in Belgium: Quebec’s euthanasia bill (Bill 52) is based on the Belgian euthanasia law
[link to www.nationalrighttolifenews.org]
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Bullshit.

The law allows children who do suffer to choose if they quit life or not.

In the US You prefer as 'good Chistians' people do suffer in the name of Christ.

You do talk about socialism, but You can not even give food to Your own poor so they need to live between the trash and families unther the bridges.

Your country is the Babylon of the world with a big mouth to judge others on the world, but Your country if full of debt and soon You will be ditched for it.

The worse thing I did see in the USA are those lunatics who do name themself 'Christians', but most of Your Christians are hypocrites.
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Children would also be easy to manipulate to the answer an adult would like to hear
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Joseph Gobbles would be very proud


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maybe they should arrest the polticans !
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So only so called perfect humans deserve to walk the Earth?
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I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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Bullshit.

The law allows children who do suffer to choose if they quit life or not.

In the US You prefer as 'good Chistians' people do suffer in the name of Christ.

You do talk about socialism, but You can not even give food to Your own poor so they need to live between the trash and families unther the bridges.

Your country is the Babylon of the world with a big mouth to judge others on the world, but Your country if full of debt and soon You will be ditched for it.

The worse thing I did see in the USA are those lunatics who do name themself 'Christians', but most of Your Christians are hypocrites.
 Quoting: Belgian 41993714


It appears your babbling comes to naught as your rants boil down to your unsubstantiated ranting do some research into churches who provide food to the needy and learn about all the charity services Christian organizations provide to children.

You are the hypocrite OP.

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Bullshit.

The law allows children who do suffer to choose if they quit life or not.

In the US You prefer as 'good Chistians' people do suffer in the name of Christ.

You do talk about socialism, but You can not even give food to Your own poor so they need to live between the trash and families unther the bridges.

Your country is the Babylon of the world with a big mouth to judge others on the world, but Your country if full of debt and soon You will be ditched for it.

The worse thing I did see in the USA are those lunatics who do name themself 'Christians', but most of Your Christians are hypocrites.
 Quoting: Belgian 41993714


eeeeh ? belgique ?
fugh off,take care of the kids and MAKE SURE ALL HAVE THEIR PARENTS IN ATTENDANCE AT ALL TIMES
so belgian stupidity doesn't get them.
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The majority of Belgian citizens say they approve of the law

[link to www.charismanews.com]

Since euthanasia was legalized in Belgium in 2002, Belgians have been euthanized for blindness, depression, anorexia nervosa, and a botched sex-change operation.

Now, Belgians want to allow euthanasia for children.

Under legislation currently being debated in the Belgian Parliament, terminally ill or suffering children under 18 could be euthanized if they request it, their parents consent to it, and an expert deems the child capable of understanding their decision.

The bill is widely supported and is expected to become law.

'Kids Never Choose Death'
Supporters of Belgium's proposed euthanasia law say it is necessary and compassionate, but critics say it is only the next phase in what they call "a culture of death."

What the law will almost assuredly do is make the practice of killing suffering children more common. Some Belgian doctors are already killing newborns with spina bifida at the parents' request.

But the media and the left in Belgium are sending the message that doctors who resist euthanasia are uncaring.
 Quoting: Geo777


good, they will kill off the terminally ill and retarded. no reason to keep either alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45292497


What if they made them ill in the first place ? So you can kill unwanted bloodlines great ! If i were a Globalist i would be happy too!
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your right, I bet they wont let their kids be killed
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I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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Children cannot consent to be murdered for the same reason they can't consent to having sex with adults. They can be easily coerced or deceived and don't have the experience and knowledge necessary to make such a decision. I can picture a cretin telling a kid he will be in heaven, not much different than a pedo's MO .
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As an adult you should have the right to die, children I'm not so sure but if they're suffering then maybe





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