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NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL

 
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NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
[link to www.google.com]
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[link to www.nieuwsblad.be]
(Dutch)

[link to www.pri.org]

Most pro forced-labours (slavery) will bash this, but there just is not so much work to do anymore if you noticed.

I think it is a great idea. I do not believe people will stop working. I think they will really evolve in the work they choose.

So opnions please. (I know i will regret i asked it here)

BTW: Brief please shut up, we know your retarded ideas.
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10/23/2013 08:57 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
I smell hyperinflation coming to Europe anyways.

So who cares. Print more and see where that gets you.
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10/23/2013 09:03 AM
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I smell hyperinflation coming to Europe anyways.

So who cares. Print more and see where that gets you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405186


You could be right.
On the other hand;
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Mind you, the ending of the scene is a joke.
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10/23/2013 09:05 AM
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I smell hyperinflation coming to Europe anyways.

So who cares. Print more and see where that gets you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405186


And let more Muslims in, by all means necessary.
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10/23/2013 09:09 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
So would this be like QE except instead of giving hundreds of billions to the banks it's given to the people? Sounds good to me.
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10/23/2013 09:12 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Well..

Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution.

The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already.

Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means.
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10/23/2013 09:15 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Well..

Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution.

The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already.

Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


heres an example of whats wrong with this world
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10/23/2013 09:18 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Well..

Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution.

The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already.

Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


heres an example of whats wrong with this world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46998649


Indeed.
Stuck in the program.
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10/23/2013 09:19 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Well..

Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution.

The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already.

Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


heres an example of whats wrong with this world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46998649


"feeding the useless at the expense of the useful"

really?!

who are you to decide the usefulness of the individual?
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Well..

Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution.

The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already.

Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


The money comes from nowhere.
Just as it always has.
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10/23/2013 09:22 AM
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This guy doesn't know what hit him wtf

regardless of how this proposal will play-out,
this is definitely a sign of the changing times.
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10/23/2013 09:30 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Useful and unuseful is a sham.

There are many instances of the world being a better place if some people that were useful would not have been used the way they have been.

Just because one is expending energy doesn't mean it's being directed in a good manner, too many times it's being directed in a destructive manner. Better to not be used.

Some people need to learn to think outside of the box when it comes to catch phrases like usefulness because too much it's WAY off base.
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10/23/2013 09:35 AM
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This guy doesn't know what hit him wtf

regardless of how this proposal will play-out,
this is definitely a sign of the changing times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48398698

Maybe I don't.
When I concurred to the person who said this is what's wrong with the world i meant not being able to think outside the program.

Money has been a figment since the gold standard.
And if it all went so well since then, and we are seeing the supposed end of that now, why not make up more money until no end, abolish debt, and abolish forced labour?

Since it was all a fairy tale, why not make it a better one.
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10/23/2013 09:36 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Who's attacking the Swiss and why?
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10/23/2013 09:42 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Who's attacking the Swiss and why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43647980


If they would vote "yes", I'm sure they would be attacked just like Ghaddaffi, Chavez etc..were it not that it is a white country in the western financial system.
Could well be TPTB making a save haven for themselves.
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10/23/2013 09:44 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Well..

Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution.

The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already.

Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


heres an example of whats wrong with this world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46998649


"feeding the useless at the expense of the useful"

really?!

who are you to decide the usefulness of the individual?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48398698


well, since you are a jew, that means you are useless.
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10/23/2013 09:46 AM
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My mother is from Switzerland and I remember when I was young going there to visit my gran papa and in his luxury apartment building each door had a number and under the number was the the owner's profession. The higher you went in the building the better the professions on the door. My grandfather was an architect so he had a pent house with great views on the bottom were always teachers. So they have always been doing odd things but I think this sounds kind of awesome.
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10/23/2013 10:06 AM
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clever.

more, please!
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10/23/2013 10:08 AM
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$2750 a month = still live like a poor slob in Switzerland.
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10/23/2013 10:15 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
No date has been set for the national referendum on Switzerland's guaranteed income proposal.
what next? Free sex ?
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10/23/2013 10:20 AM
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Prepare to be banned.

Other than that, I like the idea because I don't like to work. But I don't like to work because pay is unfair. I would willingly work if it wasn't forced on me.
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10/23/2013 10:44 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
No matter what, the system of an unconditional income works.
Solves many of our problems!
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10/23/2013 10:49 AM
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No date has been set for the national referendum on Switzerland's guaranteed income proposal.
what next? Free sex ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11906822


free prostitutes!
unconditional basic access to brothels for all!


j/k
BRIEF

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10/23/2013 10:52 AM

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The people voted themselves the treasury, yeah that should work out just fine...
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10/23/2013 11:01 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
Well..

Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution.

The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already.

Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Simple solution, abolish interest and let governments create money not private institutions leding money at interest to governments.
This is the biggest scam and the biggest bullshit in the world and unfortunately people accept this as religion.

With no interest and government create money as is needed this would be an easy system to maintain.
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10/23/2013 11:10 AM
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Re: NICE: SWISS PEOPLE VOTE ON UNCONDITIONAL BASE INCOME FOR ALL
One thing is for sure,the existing model doesn't work.
How to solve this problem?
Tax the shit out of them?
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10/23/2013 11:23 AM
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[link to www.google.com]
(German)

[link to www.nieuwsblad.be]
(Dutch)

[link to www.pri.org]

Most pro forced-labours (slavery) will bash this, but there just is not so much work to do anymore if you noticed.

I think it is a great idea. I do not believe people will stop working. I think they will really evolve in the work they choose.

So opnions please. (I know i will regret i asked it here)

BTW: Brief please shut up, we know your retarded ideas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278422


and in 2010 i told folks that i over head a political convo at a dinner in HBG where pollies were discussing restructuring soc sec & ssi - to one base benefit across the board - regardless of years worked, wage amounts and quarters put in. the $$ amount i heard was 7-900
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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10/23/2013 11:25 AM
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another stupid ass FAIL

What a joke

It can never work

Damn people are stupid
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10/23/2013 11:29 AM
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