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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1278422 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I smell hyperinflation coming to Europe anyways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405186 So who cares. Print more and see where that gets you. You could be right. On the other hand; [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Mind you, the ending of the scene is a joke. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10401141 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution. The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already. Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46998649 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution. The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already. Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means. heres an example of whats wrong with this world |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1278422 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution. The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already. Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means. heres an example of whats wrong with this world Indeed. Stuck in the program. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48398698 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution. The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already. Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means. heres an example of whats wrong with this world "feeding the useless at the expense of the useful" really?! who are you to decide the usefulness of the individual? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1278422 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution. The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already. Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means. The money comes from nowhere. Just as it always has. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48184497 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Useful and unuseful is a sham. There are many instances of the world being a better place if some people that were useful would not have been used the way they have been. Just because one is expending energy doesn't mean it's being directed in a good manner, too many times it's being directed in a destructive manner. Better to not be used. Some people need to learn to think outside of the box when it comes to catch phrases like usefulness because too much it's WAY off base. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1278422 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy doesn't know what hit him Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48398698 ![]() regardless of how this proposal will play-out, this is definitely a sign of the changing times. Maybe I don't. When I concurred to the person who said this is what's wrong with the world i meant not being able to think outside the program. Money has been a figment since the gold standard. And if it all went so well since then, and we are seeing the supposed end of that now, why not make up more money until no end, abolish debt, and abolish forced labour? Since it was all a fairy tale, why not make it a better one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48700125 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution. The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already. Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means. heres an example of whats wrong with this world "feeding the useless at the expense of the useful" really?! who are you to decide the usefulness of the individual? well, since you are a jew, that means you are useless. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3943228 ![]() 10/23/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mother is from Switzerland and I remember when I was young going there to visit my gran papa and in his luxury apartment building each door had a number and under the number was the the owner's profession. The higher you went in the building the better the professions on the door. My grandfather was an architect so he had a pent house with great views on the bottom were always teachers. So they have always been doing odd things but I think this sounds kind of awesome. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1260049 ![]() 10/23/2013 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Since it's to everyone, regardless of income or need, that means that it can't be your general income redistribution. The question is where does the money come from. Is it taxing businesses... if so, then they're again just feeding the useless at the expense of the useful. Since that money could be used to increase the income of those that actually do work. Or benefit the owners, who have their assets tied into that business already. Most of these schemes will end up being an income redistribution, but if they've managed to circumvent that, then by all means. Simple solution, abolish interest and let governments create money not private institutions leding money at interest to governments. This is the biggest scam and the biggest bullshit in the world and unfortunately people accept this as religion. With no interest and government create money as is needed this would be an easy system to maintain. |
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Phennommennonn![]() Forum Administrator 10/23/2013 11:24 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.google.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278422 (German) [link to www.nieuwsblad.be] (Dutch) [link to www.pri.org] Most pro forced-labours (slavery) will bash this, but there just is not so much work to do anymore if you noticed. I think it is a great idea. I do not believe people will stop working. I think they will really evolve in the work they choose. So opnions please. (I know i will regret i asked it here) BTW: Brief please shut up, we know your retarded ideas. and in 2010 i told folks that i over head a political convo at a dinner in HBG where pollies were discussing restructuring soc sec & ssi - to one base benefit across the board - regardless of years worked, wage amounts and quarters put in. the $$ amount i heard was 7-900 political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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