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UNPIN THIS CRAP!

Real Precolumbian art is vibrant and fascinating, whereas these fakes are pathetic tourist junk.
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This Video is from June 2011 with Klaus Dona!
This Artefact is no fake...believe me!
WTF is going on here?
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This stuff was long ago exposed as a tourism fraud by the Mexican government to increase tourism for a state that had a 98% unsolved murder rate last year. Do some research OP, this is total nonsense, as much as it'd be fun if it were true, it just isn't.
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Link?
 Quoting: WeAreOne


I'm also waiting OP provide a single authentic link to actual documents of the Mexican government.
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This Video is from June 2011 with Klaus Dona!
This Artefact is no fake...believe me!
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Pathetic fakes at that.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Precolumbian art would laugh at them.

This piece of crap video has been around for a while.

Meanwhile in Mexico, there is a thriving trade in handcarved JUNK trinkets like these sold to tourists.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


I expect and predict this thread to have most chills of all time passingh through.. LOL

Actually I know a archaeologist in Mexico, and I traveled a lot there myself with him doing some research, he confirmed to me that this IS going on and that they ARE authentic as far he can tell.
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Cool story bro.

Now can you provide any link to ACTUAL and AUTHENTIC documents or website of the Mexican government corroborating your claim????
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


...And can you show us your analysis and scientifically proven evidence that they are fake, along with your or and tourists' photos of the thriving trinket traders actually trading these objects so we can see if they are copies of these fakes?

That would be a cooler story, Bro.
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This Video is from June 2011 with Klaus Dona!
This Artefact is no fake...believe me!
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fake or not its boring, arid, colorless, drab, dreary, drudging, dry, dull, dusty, flat, heavy, ho-hum, humdrum, jading, jejune, leaden, mind-numbing, monochromatic, monotonous, numbing, old, pedestrian, ponderous, slow, stale, stodgy, stuffy, stupid, tame, tedious, tiresome, tiring, uninteresting, wearisome, weary, wearying..

did I miss anything out ?
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Pathetic fakes at that.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Precolumbian art would laugh at them.

This piece of crap video has been around for a while.

Meanwhile in Mexico, there is a thriving trade in handcarved JUNK trinkets like these sold to tourists.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


I expect and predict this thread to have most chills of all time passingh through.. LOL

Actually I know a archaeologist in Mexico, and I traveled a lot there myself with him doing some research, he confirmed to me that this IS going on and that they ARE authentic as far he can tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20118546


Cool story bro.

Now can you provide any link to ACTUAL and AUTHENTIC documents or website of the Mexican government corroborating your claim????
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


...And can you show us your analysis and scientifically proven evidence that they are fake, along with your or and tourists' photos of the thriving trinket traders actually trading these objects so we can see if they are copies of these fakes?

That would be a cooler story, Bro.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27259747


and what you think were all going to be convinced because you ask them to provide evidence its fake and if they cant?

lulz
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This Video is from June 2011 with Klaus Dona!
This Artefact is no fake...believe me!
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fake or not its boring, arid, colorless, drab, dreary, drudging, dry, dull, dusty, flat, heavy, ho-hum, humdrum, jading, jejune, leaden, mind-numbing, monochromatic, monotonous, numbing, old, pedestrian, ponderous, slow, stale, stodgy, stuffy, stupid, tame, tedious, tiresome, tiring, uninteresting, wearisome, weary, wearying..

did I miss anything out ?
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Hoax........and of course promoted by a hoaxer.
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This Video is from June 2011 with Klaus Dona!
This Artefact is no fake...believe me!
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fake or not its boring, arid, colorless, drab, dreary, drudging, dry, dull, dusty, flat, heavy, ho-hum, humdrum, jading, jejune, leaden, mind-numbing, monochromatic, monotonous, numbing, old, pedestrian, ponderous, slow, stale, stodgy, stuffy, stupid, tame, tedious, tiresome, tiring, uninteresting, wearisome, weary, wearying..

did I miss anything out ?
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Clumsy, copybook, derivative, uninspired, naive, hokey, sophomoric and ridiculous.
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are these new vids? Or just RE-RUNS of the stuff that was 'supposed' to come out last year?
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I expect and predict this thread to have most chills of all time passingh through.. LOL

Actually I know a archaeologist in Mexico, and I traveled a lot there myself with him doing some research, he confirmed to me that this IS going on and that they ARE authentic as far he can tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20118546


Cool story bro.

Now can you provide any link to ACTUAL and AUTHENTIC documents or website of the Mexican government corroborating your claim????
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


...And can you show us your analysis and scientifically proven evidence that they are fake, along with your or and tourists' photos of the thriving trinket traders actually trading these objects so we can see if they are copies of these fakes?

That would be a cooler story, Bro.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27259747


and what you think were all going to be convinced because you ask them to provide evidence its fake and if they cant?

lulz
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11303157


No, I'm merely pointing out that there is an equally relevant counter argument that demands the same level of scrutiny as the 'fake' claim. Sorry to tax your imagination, I obviously didn't account for your lack of it.
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Finally it is happening!!! Mexican governments are REVEALING Alien artifacts and objects as first state in the world!!

All info and videos taken from:
[link to alternanews.net]

Excerpt:
Mayan secrets of alien connection to be unmasked by Mexican Government in ’2013′?

Recently there has been a substantial amount of suspicious fascination with what is apparently full disclosure from the Mexican government in regards to never before seen Mayan items obviously depicting aliens and spacecraft.


Press-conference Presentation by scientists of the Alien Artifacts disclosed by Mexican Governments:


The Mexican government is delivering state-held secrets about the end-of the Mayan calendar. The information — secured for 80 years — is likely to reveal Mayan values in future catastrophes and wisdom known as ‘scary.’

‘The Mayans used to make one pyramid over another,’ tourist minister for the Mexican state of Campeche Luis Augusto Garcia Rosado told TheWrap. ‘In the website at Calakmul, workers for INAH [the National Institute of Anthropology and History] have identified areas in the pyramid that have never been observed or explored before.

Visual presentation of all artifacts in high definition and quality:



Full story: [link to alternanews.net]

This is some AMAZING stuff!! Does this mean the good guys are getting into the power and the elite???
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whoh check this
[link to i44.tinypic.com]
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I agree. Someone on either side of the fence should link the suitable documentation for their side of the argument.
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What if.. what if we trick the other governments into believing Mexico is about to do disclosure.. and that the aliens told Mexico they are the universal favorites of earth.. and the only ones brave enough to come forward..

Disclosure race?
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I agree. Someone on either side of the fence should link the suitable documentation for their side of the argument.
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Okay.

Anyone who is interested in substantuating this pathetic crap as anything other than fake junk is invited to join the following discussion group, which is devoted to the exact art and science of authenticating or repudiating "ancient artifacts". They are especially keen on exposing the numerous sellers of fake antiquities on ebay and other online venues.

Some of the world's leading dealers of authentic artifacts participate in discussion here.

Please join this group:

[link to groups.yahoo.com]

Then invite discussion of the "artifacts" presented.

Good luck.
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Pathetic fakes at that.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Precolumbian art would laugh at them.

This piece of crap video has been around for a while.

Meanwhile in Mexico, there is a thriving trade in handcarved JUNK trinkets like these sold to tourists.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


I expect and predict this thread to have most chills of all time passingh through.. LOL

Actually I know a archaeologist in Mexico, and I traveled a lot there myself with him doing some research, he confirmed to me that this IS going on and that they ARE authentic as far he can tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20118546


Cool story bro.

Now can you provide any link to ACTUAL and AUTHENTIC documents or website of the Mexican government corroborating your claim????
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


...And can you show us your analysis and scientifically proven evidence that they are fake, along with your or and tourists' photos of the thriving trinket traders actually trading these objects so we can see if they are copies of these fakes?

That would be a cooler story, Bro.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27259747


It was not ME who started a thread making wild claims with ZERO proof.

The burden of proof rests on OP's shoulder not mine.
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OP vanished already??

Hit and run much??

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What if.. what if we trick the other governments into believing Mexico is about to do disclosure.. and that the aliens told Mexico they are the universal favorites of earth.. and the only ones brave enough to come forward..

Disclosure race?
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Why you magnificent bastard!

That was pure genius!

The same trick worked for the Joo's on that God thingie.
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What if.. what if we trick the other governments into believing Mexico is about to do disclosure.. and that the aliens told Mexico they are the universal favorites of earth.. and the only ones brave enough to come forward..

Disclosure race?
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Why you magnificent bastard!

That was pure genius!

The same trick worked for the Joo's on that God thingie.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but those so called "artifacts" are fake
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Pathetic fakes at that.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Precolumbian art would laugh at them.

This piece of crap video has been around for a while.

Meanwhile in Mexico, there is a thriving trade in handcarved JUNK trinkets like these sold to tourists.
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Argentina is a little slow in getting their news. Damn stubborn donkeys and llamas take forever to hoof it around.

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Pathetic fakes at that.

Anyone with even a passing familiarity with Precolumbian art would laugh at them.

This piece of crap video has been around for a while.

Meanwhile in Mexico, there is a thriving trade in handcarved JUNK trinkets like these sold to tourists.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


I expect and predict this thread to have most chills of all time passingh through.. LOL

Actually I know a archaeologist in Mexico, and I traveled a lot there myself with him doing some research, he confirmed to me that this IS going on and that they ARE authentic as far he can tell.
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You're right...I'm getting chills right now thinking about how gullible so many people are.

eyeroll2
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I agree. Someone on either side of the fence should link the suitable documentation for their side of the argument.
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Okay.

Anyone who is interested in substantuating this pathetic crap as anything other than fake junk is invited to join the following discussion group, which is devoted to the exact art and science of authenticating or repudiating "ancient artifacts". They are especially keen on exposing the numerous sellers of fake antiquities on ebay and other online venues.

Some of the world's leading dealers of authentic artifacts participate in discussion here.

Please join this group:

[link to groups.yahoo.com]

Then invite discussion of the "artifacts" presented.

Good luck.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


And this group discusses this particular claim?

quote from their group rules..

"After a decade of efforts by dedicated collectors and dealers, at long last an improvement is apparent in the eBay antiquities section. At times as many as 95% of the items in certain categories were fake, but finally someone has taken notice of us, and the worst sellers have been ejected.

This certainly doesn't mean that if you buy an 'ancient' item on eBay now that you can be assured of its authenticity, but as of July 2009 things are suddenly looking SO much better.

We're an open group and very broad based in the range of subjects that we like to talk about, but NO POLITICS PLEASE, since we are a peaceful tribe and greatly dislike flame wars.

Any artefact dating from China's Ming Dynasty or earlier is sufficiently 'ancient' to attract our interest."

Now again, instead of presenting a forum discussion group that focuses on online fakes as your authority on these Mexican artefact fakes please verify scientifically your disclaimer that it is 'pathetic crap' which is of course, your value judgement. in addition, please provide the scientific evidence that these are indeed fakes and post your photos of traders selling them on trinket markets in Mexico.

Thank you in advance.
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This is an OLD video, but good non the less.
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I agree. Someone on either side of the fence should link the suitable documentation for their side of the argument.
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Okay.

Anyone who is interested in substantuating this pathetic crap as anything other than fake junk is invited to join the following discussion group, which is devoted to the exact art and science of authenticating or repudiating "ancient artifacts". They are especially keen on exposing the numerous sellers of fake antiquities on ebay and other online venues.

Some of the world's leading dealers of authentic artifacts participate in discussion here.

Please join this group:

[link to groups.yahoo.com]

Then invite discussion of the "artifacts" presented.

Good luck.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


And this group discusses this particular claim?

quote from their group rules..

"After a decade of efforts by dedicated collectors and dealers, at long last an improvement is apparent in the eBay antiquities section. At times as many as 95% of the items in certain categories were fake, but finally someone has taken notice of us, and the worst sellers have been ejected.

This certainly doesn't mean that if you buy an 'ancient' item on eBay now that you can be assured of its authenticity, but as of July 2009 things are suddenly looking SO much better.

We're an open group and very broad based in the range of subjects that we like to talk about, but NO POLITICS PLEASE, since we are a peaceful tribe and greatly dislike flame wars.

Any artefact dating from China's Ming Dynasty or earlier is sufficiently 'ancient' to attract our interest."

Now again, instead of presenting a forum discussion group that focuses on online fakes as your authority on these Mexican artefact fakes please verify scientifically your disclaimer that it is 'pathetic crap' which is of course, your value judgement. in addition, please provide the scientific evidence that these are indeed fakes and post your photos of traders selling them on trinket markets in Mexico.

Thank you in advance.
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I directed you where to go to present the fake crap for discussion by experts in the field of antiquities.

Of course I do not expect you or any other "true believers" to take my word on it, as I am not an expert in the field, simply an enthusiast of Precolumbian art and artifacts.

So present the crap to some real experts, then report back here!

As with all antiquities, the burden of proof so far as authentification lies upon the one who proposes it as genuine, not upon the one doubting it! It takes provenance, documentation, and scientific analysis to prove that something IS real.

The burden of proof is upon you, not upon me or upon anyone else who doubts or scoffs at this idiotic crap.

The tourist crap is prima facie F A K E to anyone with even a glancing familiarity with the real stuff.
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This is an OLD video, but good non the less.
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For those claiming .... IT'S FAKE ... where is YOUR PROOF that its fake?

I tend to believe these are geniune for personal reasons.

In the late 70s, my father was working in a senior position in the Belizean government. Belize borders both Mexico (in the North) and Guatemala (in the West). Belize has many historical OLMEC structures.

To make a long story short, in the late 70s, there was a team of British archaelogist that was escavated Altun Ha (a Olmec pyramid structure near the Mexican border built by the OLMECS).

My father witness, catalogued and photographed SIMILAR ARTIFACTS as shown on the video (on behalf of the Belizean government). The artifacts were later authorized (by the Prime Minister) to be taken to England for forensic examination.

My father retired in 1998, and as of that time, most of the artifacts were NEVER RETURNED. The Belize government is bought and paid for by England, so whenever my father would enquire about the artifacts, he was repeatedly told "the artifacts are being examined".

Point is ... I wouldn't be so quick to holler ... "FAKE".
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These artifacts are well known fakes. Don't have to be a shill to know it, just intelligent enough.
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Can someone please provide a link proving these are fake?

I have seen these previously and have not seen anything acknowledging that they were fake.

Thanks!
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Old news , but interesting.
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old very oldddd news





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