What happened to the western sky object around sunset? Has it gotten bigger?

Yes he means Venus. He and the other dumbshits don't know it, but they are looking at Venus.

How come many people who saw that object have US flags? Can it only be seen in the US?

first tell why did you change your sig?

Because nothing overly spectacular will happen by the end of this month, based on current observations, therefore I think the Andromedans got the date off by a month. November 2013 seems to be much more accurate..... considering ISON will be nearer and the Sun has just started ramping up in sunspot activity that are capable of X-class flaring....

I wouldn't be surprised if there would be sunspots that would cover half of the Sun's surface by mid November 2013...

Guys, what happened to the western sky object around sunset? Has it gotten bigger the past few days? Any feedback and observations are welcome. Thanks.

If u know that Alex Collier lied why do you refer to him each time and now 3rd December 2013 to 5th density?

Ok which signature will you have when we near 3rd December?

Please do tell

Because nothing overly spectacular will happen by the end of this month, based on current observations, therefore I think the Andromedans got the date off by a month. November 2013 seems to be much more accurate..... considering ISON will be nearer and the Sun has just started ramping up in sunspot activity that are capable of X-class flaring....

I wouldn't be surprised if there would be sunspots that would cover half of the Sun's surface by mid November 2013...

Lied? More like miscalculated. Would you accuse the weathermen of lying if the sunny weather that he forecasted turned out to be wrong and it's raining instead? No, right? Forecasts and predictions are not meant to be 100% correct, but the Andromedans seem like the real deal so even if they'r wrong, they're just off by a month.

After all, unlike December 21 2012, this year we will gave a significant comet passing close by Earth at 0.4 AUs, something which was non-existent last year in December!!

Because nothing overly spectacular will happen by the end of this month, based on current observations, therefore I think the Andromedans got the date off by a month. November 2013 seems to be much more accurate..... considering ISON will be nearer and the Sun has just started ramping up in sunspot activity that are capable of X-class flaring....

I wouldn't be surprised if there would be sunspots that would cover half of the Sun's surface by mid November 2013...

Solar Guardian's Deadlines

This is not an exhaustive list, and includes none from this thread, but however, just so people can assess the extent of Solar's disconnect, here you are:

late May 2013 to early June 2013 Fail
by June 2013 Fail
6 objects arriving at Earth between July 2nd/3rd to July 22nd/23rd Fail
On 08/04/13 "less than 2 weeks left" Fail
SHTF time frame: August 11-August 28 2013 Fail
on 08/12/13 "A week and a half left?" Fail
On 06/30/13 "We should give this the benefit of the doubt until September 1 2013 arrives. If September 1 2013 arrives and what Tolec says still hasn't happened, then Tolec will finally be proven an untrustworthy source." Fail
On 07/03/13 "I think Disclosure will happen before the end of July" Fail
ON 07/07/13 "Announcements are probably 3-4 weeks away" Fail
On 07/09/13 "we will meet with the Andromedans before August 1 2013" Fail
On 07/14/13 "we may have an announcement regarding this issue sometime between July 24 2013-August 2 2013." Fail
On 07/18/13 "I will be very horrified and flabbergasted if announcements are still not made on this by August 2 2013" Fail
On 07/24/13 "I am starting a countdown to August 4 2013"
Also on 07/24/13 " Aug 22 2013" Fail
On 07/25/13, A big get out of jali free card "Alex Collier says his Andromedan contacts says pole shift will happen by the end of October 2013" Will be a Fail
On 07/28/13 "Is that a countdown to August 22 2013" Fail
On 07/30/13 this one is a big Fail...
"5 days left....They should start open contact by then because the departure date for those not wanting to ascend will be by the end of August, so people need time to digest all these info which have not been announced or disclosed by anyone officially so far.....If not, perhaps it will be between the 5th and 15th of August, but all signs point to early August....." Fail
On 08/01/13 "If there has been no disclosure or announcements pertaining to this issue by August 18 2013, then starting from 19th August, I will stop posting at GLP for 2 months" Lie
On 08/03/13 "but they did told me in my dream that they will disclose themselves before the 1st of September" Fail
On 08/05/13 "OK its August 5 2013 and this thing has still not been made publicly known.....but fret not....for if my dreams are really true, then by August 21st lots of stuff would have already been made public knowledge." Fail
Also on 08/05/13 "After the announcements are made(by the Andromedans themselves?)......possible time frame for that to happen? August 21-August 30 2013." Fail
On 08/11/13 "Based on my new dream the other day, the first major event that will change the world massively will start happening sometime between August 13-August 17 2013." Fail
On 08/18/13 "Announcements may be made between August 18-August 28 2013." Fail
On 08/21/13 "Remember, announcements will be made after major events start happening....When will that happen? I don't know exactly when it will happen per se, but I guess the chances of it happening by August 28 2013 will be 97%, 99% by September 4 2013 and 100% by September 11 2013.......
" Epic Fail
On 08/30/13 You said "Announcements might be made within the next 9 days, then by mid-September(11 Sep-19 Sep 2013) some may start boarding those ships" Fail

And to finish of the thread, we get this gem:

"Anyway, this thread is a Failure since the announcements didn't happen throughout the whole of August 2013, so it must be next month, so all discussions about everything talked about here will be moved to this thread here: Thread: Tolec: Departure date for people on Earth who don't want to ascend is mid-September 2013 "

26th September and yet another SG deadline passes. Time for a little list update.


On 09/06/13 you said "So, sometime between 11th to 19th September 2013, the existence of ETs and the fact that they are now here as well as many various factions and races have been interacting with humanity in a discreet manner for many thousands of years as well as the fact that they are involved in our being here in Earth would have already been made public knowledge, and starting from 20th September 2013 onwards, some of us may choose to leave Earth to move to another planet to live on onboard ET spaceships....." fail

"Announcements about ETs may be made between September 11 to September 23 2013......" fail

On 09/07/13 you said "I think they will accelerate the speed multiple times soon, then sometime in late September or early October they would already be here........" Rollin' rollin' rollin', keep those goalposts rollin' RAWHIDE. fail

On 09/08/13 you said "2-3 weeks left" Deadline of 09/29. I will be waiting for you.fail

On 09/08/13 you said "It could still happen sometime this month......" Deadline of 09/30. I will be waiting for you.fail

On 09/09/13 you repeated "less than 2 weeks left....." Deadline of 09/30. I will be waiting for you.fail

On 0910/13 you said "I have an extremely strong feeling that ETs will show up en masse sometime between September 12-September 22 2013......." fail

On 09/12/13 you said "Big major Earth-shattering events might happen between September 13 2013 to September 17 2013" fail

On 09/13/13 you said "Read the thread above......After such massive EQs happen, that will be when ETs show up.....Time frame? Mid-September 2013(September 11-September 20 2013)" fail

On 09/15/13 you said "We will be able to decide and judge on the above suppositions sometime between September 15 to September 20 2013....." We judged them to be a load of crap. fail

On 09/17/13 you said "September 20 2013?? " fail

On 09/19/13 you said "Haven't you read intel from threads here other than my mine....? Common consensus has proven that something big might happen sometime between September 20 2013-September 23 2013...." As the 23rd draws to a close, I think I can safely call fail

On 09/19/13 you said "4-6 days from now?" Deadline of 09/25/13. I will be waiting for you.Oops, another fail.

On 09/23/13 you said "So, a big one might occur before the end of the month, then global autistic doom by the 1st of October, followed by ET appearances? There seems to be many people dreaming of floods and stuff these days....as well as FEMA preps to be ready by the 1st of October 2013....." Deadline of 10/01/13. I will be waiting for you.fail


Since SG's next deadline is 09/29 I will update the list on 09/30, although we all know that will entail simply adding more big red fail.

On 09/09/13 you said "By October 1 2013, ISON will be proven to be an ET spaceship" fail.

On 10/09/13 you said "Thread: USA East Coast wiped out by Tsunami - Remote View prediction" for 10/21/13 fail.

On 10/22/13 you said "Looks like that remote viewer got the date wrong tounge Well then, let's jump to the next date of October 24 2013 for ET contact at Cleveland, according to Dr. Boylan..." fail.

On 10/16/13 you said "Guys, I have just found out a link that has more vital information pertaining to the upcoming Mothership that is supposed to hover low above Cleveland on October 24 2013 to October 27 2013 according to Dr. Richard Boylan. " fail.

On 10/28/13 SG changed his signature from "Alex Collier say pole shift by the end of October" to "Alex Collier says we move to 5th density by December 3 2013" fail.

Here in New Zealand my wife and I and her sister observed what appeared to be an extremely bright star. Intrigued we looked through 2" x 50 binoculars. What we saw was not one, but two identical objects shaped just like a Vulcan delta wing bomber. One appeared to be larger than the other, a little lower and to the right of the larger one. The nose cone being red and the wing shape being shaded through yellow, blue, then green. The rear had a jagged spiky appearance. We observed it off and on for three hours from 8-30pm to 11.30 pm. when we checked again later they was gone. The other stars were faint but looked normal compared to this object. They were again in evidence last night, same place, same appearance. Tonight it is cloudy over Auckland with some clear breaks. Now 8:10pm and not yet dark but just got the binoculars on it and confirmed is same two objects. Anyone else? No way to photo it through binoculars.

If you guys see any dramatic changes with that red object, please post here. We deserve the right to know.

The only two objects I can see in this light-polluted city sky are Venus and Sparkle Planet. That gives you an idea of how bright Sparkle Planet is.

My windows look north, west, and south. The moon is not visible from my vantage-point, just Venus (to the southwest) and Sparkle Planet (to the northwest).

Guys, what happened to the western sky object around sunset? Has it gotten bigger the past few days? Any feedback and observations are welcome. Thanks.

Took this snap on30-10-13 at 6:45 pm IST from southern INDIA.It was more big & brighter than u r seeing in these photos.

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Took this snap on30-10-13 at 6:45 pm IST from southern INDIA.It was more big & brighter than u r seeing in these photos.

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I watched the star twinkling red, blue, and green in the night sky and knew the end was close, if not the world’s end, certainly my own. The new light, which the media proclaimed had always been, rivaled the glow of the full moon and seemed to pulse and dance. I remembered the days and years before the shifting orb appeared in the sky, and felt nothing but fear when I pointed out that fact to my friends and co-workers and they insisted it had always been there.

“Wouldn’t someone notice if the star was new, wouldn’t someone speak up? What about all the astronomers and scientists? If it was new wouldn’t the leaders and the media tell us?” they said. “I remember it from when I was a child.”

Of course, that was back in the days when I had friends and co-workers, before the world had changed. The changes were gradual at first, little shifts to make society better, then they were fast tracked and no one seemed to notice. I wondered how everyone had become so numb and blind to the changes, but I suspect it was because at first the only changes for them were that they worked more hours and through sheer exhaustion couldn’t keep up with the news.

At first was the rationing of kilowatt-hours on our electric meter, and no one could meet or surpass their monthly allotment, so no one seemed to care, most were united in saving the planet and bragging about how few hours they used. Then burning wood or coal was made illegal, not many complained and if they did or if they staged protests at the capitols across the nation, no news covered it. And it truly didn’t seem like that much of a sacrifice, after all, we had such a generous allotment of electricity it seemed outrageous that anyone would need the extra energy and according to the media we were united as one under this new plan to save the earth.

As I said, the changes were gradual and done as a feel good rain of parades and concerts shown on all channels of the television and broadcast on all radio stations. I have always been a bit rebellious and married a man of my own nature and we worried over the small losses of freedom. My husband, Earl, owned a welding shop and said it was just a matter of time before gas would be rationed, but before that happened, Earl was killed. Luckily, for him I believe. Thankfully, he didn’t live so long to see how bad it became.

One President became another and then the allotment for electric became less, cash was abandoned for plastic and the price of being caught with cash was prison. I lost my job around that time, for pointing out to my co-workers that the star in the sky had not always been, and went on assistance. I lost my friends, because no one who worked in system should be seen with those who weren’t, it was an unspoken rule, a rule whispered and rumored about, but a rule nonetheless. Those who broke the rule soon found themselves without a job or dead. So call it coincidence or happenstance, but the knowledge grew and once you were out of the corporate world, you were shunned and invisible.

Earl died in a protest, shot down in the street. He never even received a funeral; he was just swept like trash from the street and disposed in some manner that could not be shared because it went against national security. I just knew that he never came home from his trip to the capitol to protest the closing and end of private, independent businesses, because their existence required too much energy. Several weeks later I received a letter of his death and a check for a hundred dollars.

The star was smaller back then, shining brighter in the sky than any other, and dancing with color. I remember sitting out under the night sky with a bottle of wine, crying with the letter in my hand, and knowing that there was nothing I could do. Earl was gone and I was alone with a rebellious teenage boy and no job to support him.

Randall, my son, met and exceeded my and Earl’s level of rebellion, we should have known better to bring a child into this world, with our genes, but we wanted to see what we could create. Where I cried at the loss of Earl, Randall raged. Randall wanted revenge on a world that declared freedom, but only gave multi-levels of control. He paced in the yard that night as I sobbed over the letter and drank too much wine.

“We can’t even flush the toilet as needed, Mom,” he said, running his hand through too long hair. “Our water is rationed. It was nine flushes a day with three people, now it’s going to be down to six. What if you or I have diarrhea? The other is going to have to look at that mess?”

Randall had other concerns than the loss of his father; he had a letter in his hands as well. At fifteen he’d been called into national service, it was a nine-week program, much like military boot camp, and he was supposed to leave in a week.

“I’m not going, fuck this noise! This is the land of the free? Did you see Rufus when he came home? He wasn’t the same person.”

I nodded. I had seen Rufus, I had to smile at the Rufus I knew before boot camp, Rufus, the painter, the poet; Rufus came home with an arm illustrated in warmongering tattoos and no longer smiled and joked, the gentle kid had turned into something neither Randall nor I recognized.

“And what about Amber?” Randall punched the trunk of a tree and I didn’t even try to stop him. Amber had been Randall’s girlfriend before she was shipped off, a self-described anarchist who wished that all electricity and communication would stop. “That’s the only way we’ll know who we are,” she’d lament. She came home with a buzz cut, and a change of personality that was beyond frightening and into bizarre.

“I’m not going.”

“The law says you have to go, it’s required,” I whispered.

“I know, Mom, but I’m breaking the law.”

“What are you going to do?”

“I don’t know.”

“You can’t get out, the borders are patrolled, not just the borders into Mexico and Canada, but the borders between the states, there is nowhere to go.”

“Then I’ll die fighting,” he said, sitting on the damp grass and wrapping his arms around my leg. He rested his head on my thigh and sighed. “I can’t live like this, Mom. You and dad were the greatest parents, always teaching me to question and teaching me how to work hard for what I believed in.” He sniffed and wiped his eyes. “I can’t do this.”

I brushed his hair from his face and understood, he was just a boy, but a young, strong man who reminded me of his father. I looked at the star, the star I knew hadn’t always been, and I knew I couldn’t hold on to my son. “What can I do?”

“I’ll need a bit of food, not much, because I know you have to eat. You could come with me.” He lifted his head and looked into my eyes. “Come with me, Mom.”

I smiled and wiped the tears off my cheeks. “I can’t. I couldn’t keep up with you and I don’t want to slow you down.”

“You’ll die here,” he said, pushing my hair behind my ear.

“You’ll probably die out there too, son.” More tears came; I couldn’t control them.

He smiled, looking so like his father. “Then we’ll meet on the other side and dad will be there.”

I nodded and he hugged my leg tighter. We sat outside until the new star set, watching the colors and saying goodbye in silence. A couple nights later I let him go, his backpack stuffed with clothes and the few cans of food I had.

I sat in the yard crying, I had no wine or alcohol, as my allotment only covered three bottles a month or twenty-four beers. I missed my dog, but the new rules said we were only doing harm to domesticated animals by keeping them and they had been gathered and taken away. Occasionally the neighborhood would adopt a stray that had escaped the round up, but I hadn’t seen a dog in a long time. A few cats survived the new law and as I sat in the yard, crying over the loss of Earl and Randall, one jumped the fence and settled in my lap, kneading my thighs. I thanked a God I wasn’t sure still existed.

The star grew brighter, bigger, and I wondered if my old friends and co-workers still believed it had always been there. My rations had been reduced to a couple pounds of some sort of meat, a dozen cans of fruits and vegetables and some paper goods a month. I tried to get a job, but I’d been black balled. Occasionally I traded some cans of food, or homemade quilts, or some very needed sewing, for some homemade wine and I’d sit in the yard, watching the star grow bigger in the sky and missing my husband and son.

It was a long time since we had an Internet of free exchange, the new President passed a bill and made blogs and forums illegal, so when you logged on the Internet the selection of available sites were much the same as the television. And it all declared that the star, brighter than the moon and nearly bigger, had always been there and only tinfoil hat wearing nutcases believed differently.

I had to go to a concert the other night to keep my benefits. I stood in line, hating to be there, but it was an obligation, a way to get paid for the food I received. There were some beggars, one being the old lady who used to live across the street from me and who rescued so many dogs and cats, back before they were confiscated. I wished I had something to give her, but money and coins have been made illegal, and I didn’t think to bring any food. She was emaciated, thin beyond thought, and I remembered the chubby old woman willing to take in any animal. I sat in the concert, full of patriot messages, and cried, staring at the star that had now grown bigger than the moon.

I accepted the ride on the bus to bring us back to our now fenced in neighborhood and thinking about Randall. I thought I was too old to go, I hate that I didn’t go. I miss him and wonder if he is still alive or if he made it to a place we were told that didn’t exist. I pulled out the jar in the cabinet, half full of some homemade wine, and I’m drinking it as I write this.

The ground is trembling under my feet. It’s been happening since Earl died and Randall went on his journey, the media says it is nothing new that the earth has always trembled. It’s also repeated on commercials every half hour that anyone who doesn’t remember the trembling of the earth is mentally ill and we should report them, they also conveniently add a number to call in and say extra rations will be given to those who report. Did I mention that we must also watch the television? The usage of the television is monitored as much as the electric, water, and cash.

I feel like Randall did before he left. I wish I had been strong enough when he was. He didn’t even grow up when the world was actually free, but he was smart enough to understand what he was taught of how it was, the freedom, didn’t actually exist, and I was too scared to follow the child. I pray he’s still alive.

My bag is packed, my boots are on my feet, and as this new star is lighting the yard brighter than any full moon that ever existed, I’m ready to go.



Posted this on my blog and have given GLP permission to print it in full