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Calling all christians--- help me before I loose faith!!

 
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I'm not religious to start with, but I do believe in God and Jesus. But this little situation... it has really hit home hard. Please rationalize it. Tell me how God does care!!

I'm a nurse. Today I meet a new patient, a sweet little old lady. I have to change the bandages on her feet. It causes her terrible pain and despite the morphine she is still moaning and groaning. But she never calls out or swears. She lets me do the job.

Well she had one black set of toes, some looked about ready to fall off. The other foot had 4 toes amputated, leaving an unlikely to heal gaping wound, ringed by black skin, filled with puss, visible bone, and a putrid smell of rotting flesh.

After I was done I notice a cross hanging above her head, and by the cross a little picture of Jesus with the word 'mercy'. But there was no mercy to be found. :(
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Jesus is not the Almighty.
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Read the book, Insuline the silent killer.
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Read the book, A world without Cancer.
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No mercy to be found? Weren't you helping her? You know, sometimes its hard to see the work of God. Sometimes its so hard we can't see it, but it is there. He works in ways we can't really understand sometimes, but it doesn't mean He is not doing anything. Think well in your case. You were there, you felt the sorrow for that old lady, you could almost feel her suffering. God sent you, with your good heart to do your best to help her. It could have been a heartless nurse, who would do it with no caress and no propper care, making the situation of that old lady even worse. You might think that the suffering of the lady is lack of Gods compassion or love, because she is suffering in her flesh horrible pain day after day, hour after hour. But suffering is part of life, the one we know as Jesus, came here to go through this himself. The old lady is in pain, but her faith is unshakable. Her misery would be hundreds of times worst without this faith, there is the compassion.
Now you can asck "Why the suffering?". Its simple: its part of the life we live now, in this realm, there's no escape from it. But God is there, right by your side, look closer and you'll see Him, as I saw in the situation you told.
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I'm not religious to start with, but I do believe in God and Jesus. But this little situation... it has really hit home hard. Please rationalize it. Tell me how God does care!!

I'm a nurse. Today I meet a new patient, a sweet little old lady. I have to change the bandages on her feet. It causes her terrible pain and despite the morphine she is still moaning and groaning. But she never calls out or swears. She lets me do the job.

Well she had one black set of toes, some looked about ready to fall off. The other foot had 4 toes amputated, leaving an unlikely to heal gaping wound, ringed by black skin, filled with puss, visible bone, and a putrid smell of rotting flesh.

After I was done I notice a cross hanging above her head, and by the cross a little picture of Jesus with the word 'mercy'. But there was no mercy to be found. :(
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That's sad. I read somewhere, (from an NDE) and a doctor who worked with people near death. One of his patients was suffering tremendously. The patient told him not to worry, part of their suffering was to teach others to become more caring. I don't know if that's what this person's suffering is for, but it's nice to know that you care for them!
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You could also pray for God to help you through this, and also pray for the suffering woman. I do know prayer helps when one is stressed, I've experienced it myself.
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pray for God, he always listen, God is Love.
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Did you personally pray with/for her? And behind everything bad that happens here in the natural will be found responsible, a human. I pray she heals, and you become good soil no rocky ground,amen
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I'm not religious to start with, but I do believe in God and Jesus. But this little situation... it has really hit home hard. Please rationalize it. Tell me how God does care!!

I'm a nurse. Today I meet a new patient, a sweet little old lady. I have to change the bandages on her feet. It causes her terrible pain and despite the morphine she is still moaning and groaning. But she never calls out or swears. She lets me do the job.

Well she had one black set of toes, some looked about ready to fall off. The other foot had 4 toes amputated, leaving an unlikely to heal gaping wound, ringed by black skin, filled with puss, visible bone, and a putrid smell of rotting flesh.

After I was done I notice a cross hanging above her head, and by the cross a little picture of Jesus with the word 'mercy'. But there was no mercy to be found. :(
 Quoting: teacup


You were the mercy to be found. Did you not tend to her wounds? Adminster medicine? Ease her pain? Morn her condition?

Im a nurse also. Everyday is a chance to tend to the hurt, the sick, the emotionally distraught. We come across the most heart breaking situtations and then is when you remember what our profession is reallly about.

Take spiritual time for yourself. Its a hard job but so rewarding.
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my King know how suffer are you because HE had experienced it
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Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
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Jesus never promised physical mercy in this life. In fact, he promised suffering for his followers. But he did promise mercy in the hereafter; it is spiritual mercy, which is much more important than this temporary physical realm.

This world has been under the control of Satan for almost all of human history, so we do see some physical mercy since anything good happens at all. Without God's intervention, nothing good would ever happen.

It's all about trusting God to know what he's doing, in spite of what Satan's doing. Keep your "treasures in heaven", not on earth.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Read the book, Deuteronomy, chapters 28-29.
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I'm not religious to start with, but I do believe in God and Jesus. But this little situation... it has really hit home hard. Please rationalize it. Tell me how God does care!!

I'm a nurse. Today I meet a new patient, a sweet little old lady. I have to change the bandages on her feet. It causes her terrible pain and despite the morphine she is still moaning and groaning. But she never calls out or swears. She lets me do the job.

Well she had one black set of toes, some looked about ready to fall off. The other foot had 4 toes amputated, leaving an unlikely to heal gaping wound, ringed by black skin, filled with puss, visible bone, and a putrid smell of rotting flesh.

After I was done I notice a cross hanging above her head, and by the cross a little picture of Jesus with the word 'mercy'. But there was no mercy to be found. :(
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Not trying to be mean, but maybe she deserved it. Karma seems to get us all in the end. I have know a few people who pretend like they are good Christians but in reality believe Animal sacrifices & cutting off baby boy foreskins is acceptable.
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Jesus never promised physical mercy in this life. In fact, he promised suffering for his followers. But he did promise mercy in the hereafter; it is spiritual mercy, which is much more important than this temporary physical realm.

This world has been under the control of Satan for almost all of human history, so we do see some physical mercy since anything good happens at all. Without God's intervention, nothing good would ever happen.

It's all about trusting God to know what he's doing, in spite of what Satan's doing. Keep your "treasures in heaven", not on earth.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


are you believe in Him as the son of God ?
do you think Jesus is poor ? none single baby in this world received gold as gift from other king and magician
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You should have learn something about faith, the little old lady wasn't complaining. Life is something you have to get through and there are lessons along the way, God did not say we would always be safe from pain and suffering. It is how you go through it, the grace the woman was given is more important than her feet.

There is death and murders horrible things that happen to the most innocent but man is the cause, God and his Son comforts. Just know that thing happen, but the suffering isn't belief it is the living and excepting somethings you don't get answer to, that is a test of faith, your faith not hers.
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Jesus never promised physical mercy in this life. In fact, he promised suffering for his followers. But he did promise mercy in the hereafter; it is spiritual mercy, which is much more important than this temporary physical realm.

This world has been under the control of Satan for almost all of human history, so we do see some physical mercy since anything good happens at all. Without God's intervention, nothing good would ever happen.

It's all about trusting God to know what he's doing, in spite of what Satan's doing. Keep your "treasures in heaven", not on earth.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


are you believe in Him as the son of God ?
do you think Jesus is poor ? none single baby in this world received gold as gift from other king and magician
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Why are you asking me these things? Is there something in what I said that makes you doubt?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Did you personally pray with/for her? And behind everything bad that happens here in the natural will be found responsible, a human. I pray she heals, and you become good soil no rocky ground,amen
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WTF! she is a nurse not a fucking preacher. Her job is to apply science ( medication ect) not pray with some women, ffs
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Jesus never promised physical mercy in this life. In fact, he promised suffering for his followers. But he did promise mercy in the hereafter; it is spiritual mercy, which is much more important than this temporary physical realm.

This world has been under the control of Satan for almost all of human history, so we do see some physical mercy since anything good happens at all. Without God's intervention, nothing good would ever happen.

It's all about trusting God to know what he's doing, in spite of what Satan's doing. Keep your "treasures in heaven", not on earth.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


are you believe in Him as the son of God ?
do you think Jesus is poor ? none single baby in this world received gold as gift from other king and magician
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Why are you asking me these things? Is there something in what I said that makes you doubt?
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how you keep your treasures in heaven ?
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Jesus never promised physical mercy in this life. In fact, he promised suffering for his followers. But he did promise mercy in the hereafter; it is spiritual mercy, which is much more important than this temporary physical realm.

This world has been under the control of Satan for almost all of human history, so we do see some physical mercy since anything good happens at all. Without God's intervention, nothing good would ever happen.

It's all about trusting God to know what he's doing, in spite of what Satan's doing. Keep your "treasures in heaven", not on earth.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


are you believe in Him as the son of God ?
do you think Jesus is poor ? none single baby in this world received gold as gift from other king and magician
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Why are you asking me these things? Is there something in what I said that makes you doubt?
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


how you keep your treasures in heaven ?
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Ask Jesus; he's the one who said "keep your treasures in heaven". And you're completely missing the point of why I even used that phrase. It was in conversation with someone else, not you.

Last Edited by Keep2theCode on 10/30/2013 07:33 AM
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Did you personally pray with/for her? And behind everything bad that happens here in the natural will be found responsible, a human. I pray she heals, and you become good soil no rocky ground,amen
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WTF! she is a nurse not a fucking preacher. Her job is to apply science ( medication ect) not pray with some women, ffs
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We are not allowed to ASK her to pray, but if asked we are encouraged to pray with them IF THEY ASK.,. especially in LTC.

We can also offer to call the proper religous figure for the patient, make room for prayer vigils. Etc..... spirituality IS part of nursing. As well being is more then the application of science.
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Did you personally pray with/for her? And behind everything bad that happens here in the natural will be found responsible, a human. I pray she heals, and you become good soil no rocky ground,amen
 Quoting: FHL(C) nli 49168277


WTF! she is a nurse not a fucking preacher. Her job is to apply science ( medication ect) not pray with some women, ffs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41679495


We are not allowed to ASK her to pray, but if asked we are encouraged to pray with them IF THEY ASK.,. especially in LTC.

We can also offer to call the proper religous figure for the patient, make room for prayer vigils. Etc..... spirituality IS part of nursing. As well being is more then the application of science.
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Well said. Some people who chant "science! science!" would prefer a sterile, hopeless world.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Well 1st all good things come from God , so why were her feet like that
Job 37:13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy.
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Did you personally pray with/for her? And behind everything bad that happens here in the natural will be found responsible, a human. I pray she heals, and you become good soil no rocky ground,amen
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Yes Lord
Job 37:13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy.
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Well 1st all good things come from God , so why were her feet like that
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Sin. Satan. This should be common knowledge among Christians.

And I don't mean HER sin but the entrance of sin into the world when Adam rebelled against God. This handed over the world to Satan, who runs it in the manner we'd expect. He enjoys making the innocent suffer. The test of our faith, then, is to trust God in spite of it, to show that we are not fair-weather friends.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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You may be in the wrong line of work.
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Did you personally pray with/for her? And behind everything bad that happens here in the natural will be found responsible, a human. I pray she heals, and you become good soil no rocky ground,amen
 Quoting: FHL(C) nli 49168277


WTF! she is a nurse not a fucking preacher. Her job is to apply science ( medication ect) not pray with some women, ffs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41679495


We are not allowed to ASK her to pray, but if asked we are encouraged to pray with them IF THEY ASK.,. especially in LTC.

We can also offer to call the proper religous figure for the patient, make room for prayer vigils. Etc..... spirituality IS part of nursing. As well being is more then the application of science.
 Quoting: 3pic


Well said. Some people who chant "science! science!" would prefer a sterile, hopeless world.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

Have appendicitis and you will soon be screaming for science to intervene. Because you can bet your house on it that god want stop that pain. Bit of reality, plz
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Funny. I just woke up with re-newed faith.

The lord want's me too reassure you death is a blessing is disguise and that suffering builds character.

I woke up wanting too suffer because I KNOW in JESUS that its over.
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I'm not religious to start with, but I do believe in God and Jesus. But this little situation... it has really hit home hard. Please rationalize it. Tell me how God does care!!

I'm a nurse. Today I meet a new patient, a sweet little old lady. I have to change the bandages on her feet. It causes her terrible pain and despite the morphine she is still moaning and groaning. But she never calls out or swears. She lets me do the job.

Well she had one black set of toes, some looked about ready to fall off. The other foot had 4 toes amputated, leaving an unlikely to heal gaping wound, ringed by black skin, filled with puss, visible bone, and a putrid smell of rotting flesh.

After I was done I notice a cross hanging above her head, and by the cross a little picture of Jesus with the word 'mercy'. But there was no mercy to be found. :(
 Quoting: teacup


To find God in this , you care so that is a start and there are no coincidence in the Kingdom so this is for you

unlike this man
Job 37:13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy.
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are you believe in Him as the son of God ?
do you think Jesus is poor ? none single baby in this world received gold as gift from other king and magician
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49057622


Why are you asking me these things? Is there something in what I said that makes you doubt?
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


how you keep your treasures in heaven ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49057622

Ask Jesus; he's the one who said "keep your treasures in heaven". And you're completely missing the point of why I even used that phrase. It was in conversation with someone else, not you.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


you should post it in private forum not public forum
why i must ask Jesus are you not capable like HIM
its hard to asking Jesus personal there phoneline or net in heaven , while we both still in earth
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