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Are you prepared for a EMP? How would you survive?

 
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Are you prepared for a EMP? How would you survive?
Our Earth is fighting a daily battle, shielding us and our life-giving technology from the electromagnetic ravages of the sun. Every 100 years or so, we are hit by an epic solar storm which could devastate our world’s electrical-based society were it to strike today.

It happened last in 1859, when we had little technology… over 150 years ago. We are past due!

“Any day now we will be hit with a solar storm that will return us back to the Stone Age!”
- Noted astrophysicist, Dr. Carrington Reid

What would life look like for you and your family if this happened?

Consider the following…

-There would be no heat for your home.(Other than fire place - and your generator needs fuel that may not be available for long)

-Water would no longer be pumped into most homes.

-Your computer would not work.

-There would be no Internet.

-Your phones would not work.

-There would be no television.

-There would be no radio.

-ATM machines would be shut down.

-There would be no banking.

-Your debit cards and credit cards would not work.

-Without electricity, gas stations would not be functioning.

-Most people would be unable to do their jobs without electricity and employment would collapse.

-Commerce would be brought to a standstill.

-Hospitals would not be able to function.

-You would quickly start running out of medicine.

-All refrigeration would shut down and frozen foods in our homes and supermarkets would start to go bad.

-Some vehicles would no longer be able to start at all.

-Traffic lights would no longer be working.

-Airplanes would not be able to go anywhere.

-Wall Street would not be able to function at all.

-Government services would collapse.

A lot of these effects would start to be felt immediately. An article by Mac Slavo detailed some of the things that we could expect to see in the immediate aftermath of a massive EMP blast…

The first 24 – 48 hours after such an occurrence will lead to confusion among the general population as traditional news acquisition sources like television, radio and cell phone networks will be non-functional.

Within a matter of days, once people realize the power might not be coming back on and grocery store shelves start emptying, the entire system will begin to delve into chaos.

Within 30 days a mass die off will have begun as food supplies dwindle, looters and gangs turn to violent extremes, medicine can’t be restocked and water pump stations fail.

[link to www.shtfplan.com]

So what is the federal government doing to protect us against such a horrific disaster?

Absolutely nothing.

In fact, according to a recent WND article, ex-CIA Director Michael Hayden says that the Obama administration has no plans to defend us against an EMP blast…

Contrary to the findings of a 2008 commission mandated by Congress to consider a defense against an electromagnetic pulse attack and its effects on the national grid, a retired Air Force general who also headed the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency says that there isn’t a solution to an EMP attack.

Speaking before the Bipartisan Policy Center at a conference on the threats to the U.S. electrical grid, Michael Hayden also said the Obama administration has no plan to defend against an EMP.
In fact, Hayden says that “there really aren’t any solutions” to this problem…

“I don’t mean to be so flippant, but there really aren’t any solutions to this, so I would just leave it at that,” Hayden said.

[link to www.wnd.com]

Of course that is a complete and total lie. It would take less than a billion dollars to protect the largest transformers in our electrical grid. But the Obama administration refuses to do it.

Since the Obama administration is doing nothing, some state government officials are now considering taking action…

At the National Council of State Legislatures last week in Atlanta, a number of lawmakers said they’re preparing legislation similar to a bill introduced in Maine recently did under the leadership of Rep. Andrea Boland.

Efforts are under way to press the membership of the NCSL to address the EMP issue, since the federal government has failed to take action to mitigate the potential for a catastrophic event, whether natural or man-made. An EMP event could knock out the U.S. electrical grid system and the critical infrastructures that rely on it.

Along with the national electrical grid, other critical infrastructures include telecommunications, banking and financial transactions, oil and natural gas pipelines, transportation, food and water delivery, emergency services and space systems.

In short, an EMP event could cause the collapse of society.

[link to www.newsmax.com]

[link to www.wnd.com]

Space Weather Ef

CONUS EMP Area R

The Devastation of an EMP Attack

Dr. William Forstchen (author of One Second After describes the horrific events that would take place if an EMP was detonated above the U.S.



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What we know from history

Most people in this country aren't prepared to survive a serious snow storm or a minor hurricane.

No they are not prepared to survive an EMP

I no sooner posted this than my power went off for about 3 minutes due to high winds/ rain storm

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Thread: Survival Preparation - #1 in a series: The Bug out Bag
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Thread: Survival Preparation - #2 in a series: Water - How much do I need?
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I'll be fine! But I'm amazed at how stupid and unprepared the masses are. There's an emergency water shortgage notice over here for the Dublin area, because they've messed up the treatment centre or some shit. They've turned the water off during the night and told people to be careful how much they use. The radio had a phone-in and one girl said that she was scared she'd run out of water in the shower while she was washing her hair. Didn't occur to her not to use the shower but use the washbasin instead. Boy are they in for a surprise when TSHTF.
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Great thread! The American Blackout movie didn't even touch on any of this stuff, and if an EMP attack happened during the fall going into winter...or winter itself...can you imagine the casualties that would result just from not having heat alone?

I thought most vehicles would not be able to operate, so just remember, those that have a bugout location wouldn't be able to get to it unless by foot!

I have not read the book, but my husband has it upstairs so guess I should some time....One Second After.
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For water I have installed an extra well with a hand pump such as this

[link to www.windmills.net]
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If you had an EMP, you would go back to the 1800's for a few years. Today no one has the skills people had back then.

How many people know how to plant and maintain a garden?
How many people know how to can?
How many people know how to hunt?
How many people know how to spin yarn and sew?
How many people can make candles or soap?

You can add lots of stuff to this list. We would be so screwed.

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Good fictional read about what if . . . .

One Second After


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One Second After


Lights Out


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For water I have installed an extra well with a hand pump such as this

[link to www.windmills.net]
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


We found an old pump for $35 at an antique store that could probably hook up to the original property well. I guess we'd need a pipe to attach to it, but it's better than nothing.
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Do we have any estimations on how long would it take to get at least the basics back?
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Re: Are you prepared for a EMP? How would you survive?
Great thread! The American Blackout movie didn't even touch on any of this stuff, and if an EMP attack happened during the fall going into winter...or winter itself...can you imagine the casualties that would result just from not having heat alone?

I thought most vehicles would not be able to operate, so just remember, those that have a bugout location wouldn't be able to get to it unless by foot!

I have not read the book, but my husband has it upstairs so guess I should some time....One Second After.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Call me crazy, but if it does happen, I hope for winter.

Will eliminate many of the thugs before they have a chance to rape, torture & pillage.

Sadly, will also kill many others.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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One source for a deep well hand pump

[link to non-electric.lehmans.com]
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roasted spiders are delicious

some are ok to eat fresh

I do not care for rats, cats or bats...but in a pinch I suppose they would suffice.
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Do we have any estimations on how long would it take to get at least the basics back?
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I've heard several years. But who really knows.
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it'd be messy, definitely, but it's not the end of the world. perhaps it's what we need, as the way to survive would be to work together, to co-operate, rather than compete.
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Do we have any estimations on how long would it take to get at least the basics back?
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The estimates vary from 6 months (unrealistic since many of the large transformers are a built in Europe and have a long lead time) to a few years.
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Lol i was going to pin it but someone was faster!

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One source for a deep well hand pump

[link to non-electric.lehmans.com]
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I've got a well marked on my map which is much higher than the house, about 100 yards away uphill. Is there some sort of gravity pump that doesn't need electric I wonder?
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ok 6 months to several years but dont forget that there are also alternative energy sources. Will they all get "cooked?"
What about windmills?
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Great thread! The American Blackout movie didn't even touch on any of this stuff, and if an EMP attack happened during the fall going into winter...or winter itself...can you imagine the casualties that would result just from not having heat alone?

I thought most vehicles would not be able to operate, so just remember, those that have a bugout location wouldn't be able to get to it unless by foot!

I have not read the book, but my husband has it upstairs so guess I should some time....One Second After.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Call me crazy, but if it does happen, I hope for winter.

Will eliminate many of the thugs before they have a chance to rape, torture & pillage.

Sadly, will also kill many others.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


On the one hand, you're right...but I don't know if I could wish for it. Either way it would be bad...even in summer, can you imagine the garbage build up in the cites in particular? The DISEASE that would be festering? The STENCH since food (and anything else) would rot faster?!

When I took a ghost tour in Gettysburg a few weeks ago, they talked about how after the battle in July, there were so many dead they were just piled up. In addition to that, there was excrement in the streets from the soldiers, rotten horses, mules...body parts. The tour guide said said the stench was so bad it could be smelled 2 hours away in Philadelphia if the wind was right.

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ok 6 months to several years but dont forget that there are also alternative energy sources. Will they all get "cooked?"
What about windmills?
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Suppose if you had the money you could store some solar panels and equipment to use afterwards.
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One source for a deep well hand pump

[link to non-electric.lehmans.com]
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I've got a well marked on my map which is much higher than the house, about 100 yards away uphill. Is there some sort of gravity pump that doesn't need electric I wonder?
 Quoting: Tess2012


My well is over 300 ft deep - but the water rises up to the pump mechanisms. My actual lower cylinder, pipe, pump rod, a foot valve go down to about 120 ft. The water flow is excellent.
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Do we have any estimations on how long would it take to get at least the basics back?
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The estimates vary from 6 months (unrealistic since many of the large transformers are a built in Europe and have a long lead time) to a few years.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Wars last from 3 to 7 years (or longer), so your estimate is pretty accurate.
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Prepping means being ready for what ever comes. Firewood is a must in the north. An EMP could send a region, country, hemisphere, or the world, back to the 19th century. Being self-sufficient is the only way you will survive. In the case of an EMP, that could mean surviving long term without any of the things we have come to depend on. Prepping for a few days will get you through most natural disasters, but that's barely a start for a major EMP.
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ok 6 months to several years but dont forget that there are also alternative energy sources. Will they all get "cooked?"
What about windmills?
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While wind mills will certainly work - many of the related items connected to the mill may not. Suggest backup parts be stored in a faraday cage.

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We're not supposed to live forever. We just die. That's all. Some will live and eventually they'll overpopulate the planet again. That's life.





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