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Laura Bow User ID: 36299220 United States 11/01/2013 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to have my soon-to-be 9 year old do this as a project...it's something that would definitely be good to keep on hand: a solar oven. This is a simple one, there are other ones out there... [link to www.instructables.com] I also liked and wanted to do this one, where you can make a solar oven from a tire! Of course you can always go buy one pre-made as well... |
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"THE TRUTH" User ID: 49274407 United States 11/01/2013 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHY WHOULD YOU THINK YOU COULD SURVIVE A EMP... YOU WHERE PUT INTO THAT CIRCUMSTANCE BY YOUR OWN INACTION.... TO STOP OUR GOV FROM.... SITTING IT UP.... DESIGNING THE RED FLAG.... AND THEN KILLING YOU TO THEIR OWN AGENDA!!!! SO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO???? JUST TAKE IT..... YOU ARE WEAK AND HAVE NO POWER TO STOP IT!!!! UNLESS YOU ACCEPT "THE TRUTH" NOW... THEN YOU CAN STOP THIS CRAP NOW!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48476302 Canada 11/01/2013 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humans have been at our current evolutionary level for at least 50,000 years. Up to just 100 years ago, the norm was a family-run no-utilities self-sufficient homestead that got everything it needed locally. Have we really slid so far? I'm a well urbanized animal. If I can ride out the initial die-offs or round-ups or whatever, and assuming whatever gets everyone else doesn't get me too, I can easily live on the junk and remains of a city. Hell, there must be thousands of solar garden lanterns stuck in lawns within a 5 minute walk of me. One car battery and an AC converter, I have power back. Hell, three alternators and a source of running water, say dropping a water wheel in the storm sewer, I have power again. Solar panel + 12v pump + tubes + bucket = self-powered hydroponic bed. Dig a hole in the ground, line with hay or dead grass or old insulation or anything at all, place sheet of glass on top, greenhouse. If our relatives 2 or 3 generations back had our amount of useful crap kicking around and going to waste (and knew how to use it), they would have used it to supplement their already self-sufficient homesteads and would practically be living in utopia. Hell, if I had the free time and ability to scavenge scrap crap that nobody will care about post-doom, I'll be fine. If I share this knowledge with others and help them do the same, I can participate in restarting civilization. That my simian life should have such relevance in this age of pointlessness would be an honor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49003925 United Kingdom 11/01/2013 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to have my soon-to-be 9 year old do this as a project...it's something that would definitely be good to keep on hand: a solar oven. This is a simple one, there are other ones out there... Quoting: Laura Bow [link to www.instructables.com] I also liked and wanted to do this one, where you can make a solar oven from a tire! Of course you can always go buy one pre-made as well... No good for the UK you need SUN!!!!!! |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 21553989 United States 11/01/2013 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread! The American Blackout movie didn't even touch on any of this stuff, and if an EMP attack happened during the fall going into winter...or winter itself...can you imagine the casualties that would result just from not having heat alone? Quoting: Laura Bow I thought most vehicles would not be able to operate, so just remember, those that have a bugout location wouldn't be able to get to it unless by foot! I have not read the book, but my husband has it upstairs so guess I should some time....One Second After. Call me crazy, but if it does happen, I hope for winter. Will eliminate many of the thugs before they have a chance to rape, torture & pillage. Sadly, will also kill many others. On the one hand, you're right...but I don't know if I could wish for it. Either way it would be bad...even in summer, can you imagine the garbage build up in the cites in particular? The DISEASE that would be festering? The STENCH since food (and anything else) would rot faster?! When I took a ghost tour in Gettysburg a few weeks ago, they talked about how after the battle in July, there were so many dead they were just piled up. In addition to that, there was excrement in the streets from the soldiers, rotten horses, mules...body parts. The tour guide said said the stench was so bad it could be smelled 2 hours away in Philadelphia if the wind was right. Summer would be bad & make it easier for the pillagers to find the preppers. I know I sound harsh, but such a situation is about survival & if ma nature helps -- then good. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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Ostria1 User ID: 49167304 Greece 11/01/2013 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok 6 months to several years but dont forget that there are also alternative energy sources. Will they all get "cooked?" Quoting: Ostria1 What about windmills? Suppose if you had the money you could store some solar panels and equipment to use afterwards. yes very good information on this from other posters! shielding these tools you may need later is the key word Ostria |
PIR User ID: 17371844 United States 11/01/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dig this! This guy predicted every major market crash and 9-11 plus other things and he is saying a KILL SHOT from the Sun Nov 13th-14th! Thread: Predicting a Solar Kill Shot Nov. 13th -14th or the 23rd! |
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No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 14630 United States 11/01/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suggest keeping LUGOLS IODINE on hand. The iodine helps your body eliminate toxins stored in fat, especially bromine which may cause detox symptoms such as pimples and headaches. Other detox symptoms may be fatigue, muscle aches, fever, diarrhea, and brain fog, and skin rashes. Lugol's has been used to treat gout caused by high uric acid in the blood. The uric acid is deposited on the articular cartilage of joints, tendons, and surrounding tissues causing excruciating pain. Lugols can be used topically on the skin for infection and sepsis. It can help open up blocked arteries, disinfect water, and cure bladder infections. It has been shown to reduce or eliminate ovarian cysts, diminish unsightly keloids, loosen phlegm, and reduce or eliminate Peyronie’s Disease and Dupuytron’s contracture. The benefits of iodine in the body are far reaching. Oddly enough, it is the least understood of all the essential trace elements. This is the safest of all the essential trace elements which can be administered in large amounts when in an inorganic nonradioactive form. Iodine is stored throughout your entire body - the skin, teeth, nails, all the organs, and bones. When you have the correct amount of iodine in your body, you are able to: •Maintain your energy level all day •Maintain your weight •Live without aches and pains •Maintain a cheerful and uplifted attitude •Have a clear memory •Able to tolerate cold •Have normal bowel movements; •Have full and shiny hair; and •Obtain restful night at sleep •Have normal skin and supple fingernails [link to www.amazon.com] ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
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Starknight User ID: 40804831 Venezuela 11/01/2013 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, it's obvious life as we know it would cease to exist. It would be like a jump back to the 19th century, so inmediate adaptation should be key to survival. 1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. @Starknight921 |
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Laura Bow User ID: 36299220 United States 11/01/2013 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A good thing everyone should do, rather than relying on the internet, which of course won't be around when this happens, is print off important information NOW! Make a binder, compile information. Buy BOOKS! I'm looking right now at one on our floor called "Edible Wild Plants"... |
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infiniteivan User ID: 41147159 United States 11/01/2013 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I AM TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT SOLAR FLARES AND THE POSSIBILITY OF EMP... EITHER FROM THE SUN, NUCLEAR OR OTHER SOURCE. There hasn't been a solar flare large enough since 1859. The largest one we've seen since data collection began has been an X45, the Halloween Storms of 2003, where Sunspot 488 and 486, both black and beautiful!!... kept punching out X flares for 2 weeks. Haven't seen anything since. Whats happened over the past week is NOTHING compared to 2003 and 2001. But life goes on. All the flares did was knock me out for a few hours.. I felt very tired around 5pm and was out like a light until 8pm. As for nuclear or other source, an EMP, ain't nutting you can do about that. It is up to FATE/DESTINY. I don't see New Yorkers running for the hills or to buy a farm to learn how SELF-SUSTAINABILITY. Ain't gonna happen we are too dependent as a people on government and infrastructures. The article referenced here is total b.s. The was no "near miss" that I know about in May 2013 and the photo of the flare is ridiculous... it is an M flare at best, not even an X. Grow up people and stop trying to fear monger and get ratings. The media... done with 'em!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49275841 United States 11/01/2013 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like it's MUCH more critical to get ready for the real BIG event, yes ? ! [link to stateofthenation2012.com] To many people are in deep denial about the obvious .... |
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Theobromine User ID: 19876247 United States 11/01/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread! The American Blackout movie didn't even touch on any of this stuff, and if an EMP attack happened during the fall going into winter...or winter itself...can you imagine the casualties that would result just from not having heat alone? Quoting: Laura Bow I thought most vehicles would not be able to operate, so just remember, those that have a bugout location wouldn't be able to get to it unless by foot! I have not read the book, but my husband has it upstairs so guess I should some time....One Second After. I read ONE SECOND AFTER and I recommend it to everyone. There are things not in it - but it is as complete as any in print. And - According to "Surviving the Financial Collapse" by Agguillere (sp)from Argentina. When the FINANCIAL COLLAPSE happens - THE POWER GOES OUT! It did in Argentina in 2001-2. Not enough unpaid employees to keep the grid up. So - get One Second After. Forward by Newt Gingrich which I never said anything good about - but he brought this issue to Congress in the late 90's after reading the book and wanted the American people protected by stockpiling transformers and parts that would take two YEARS to get from China. And they probably have ALL the preps for the elites. They probably stocked all the extra parts for transformers for themselves and there were none left. According to the book scenario - after 1 year without power 90% of the population will be dead. And it gives details, details, details, that are believable as to how and why this will happen. No water,sanitation,fuel,food,healthcare. Read it aloud as we did and discuss some strategies that will be needed. Get new skills now. There are numerous youtubes for: Rocket mass heaters (super efficient space heating) Rocket stoves (use 90% less fuel-heat n cook with a few sticks) Bucket toilets (not stinky- RX book "Humanure") Water storage Growing food Of primary concern are: Water - Fuel - Food - Shelter - Community defense - Sanitation and general health - Medical is last because you won't last long enough to need it. Favorite New Find - The Teslonian Man show! [link to www.youtube.com] WOW! Make wood powered generator, wood powered diesel and wood powered gasoline!!!! REALLY! "What are you helping with all this helping?" Buddhist saying |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 14630 United States 11/01/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I AM TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT SOLAR FLARES AND THE POSSIBILITY OF EMP... EITHER FROM THE SUN, NUCLEAR OR OTHER SOURCE. Quoting: infiniteivan 41147159 There hasn't been a solar flare large enough since 1859. The largest one we've seen since data collection began has been an X45, the Halloween Storms of 2003, where Sunspot 488 and 486, both black and beautiful!!... kept punching out X flares for 2 weeks. Haven't seen anything since. Whats happened over the past week is NOTHING compared to 2003 and 2001. But life goes on. All the flares did was knock me out for a few hours.. I felt very tired around 5pm and was out like a light until 8pm. As for nuclear or other source, an EMP, ain't nutting you can do about that. It is up to FATE/DESTINY. I don't see New Yorkers running for the hills or to buy a farm to learn how SELF-SUSTAINABILITY. Ain't gonna happen we are too dependent as a people on government and infrastructures. The article referenced here is total b.s. The was no "near miss" that I know about in May 2013 and the photo of the flare is ridiculous... it is an M flare at best, not even an X. Grow up people and stop trying to fear monger and get ratings. The media... done with 'em!! I choose to be proactive. Nothing wrong with planning for possible events. WHile planning for a EMP you also prepare for other events such as a economic collapse,natural disaster, etc. ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
PIR User ID: 17371844 United States 11/01/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I AM TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT SOLAR FLARES AND THE POSSIBILITY OF EMP... EITHER FROM THE SUN, NUCLEAR OR OTHER SOURCE. Quoting: infiniteivan 41147159 There hasn't been a solar flare large enough since 1859. The largest one we've seen since data collection began has been an X45, the Halloween Storms of 2003, where Sunspot 488 and 486, both black and beautiful!!... kept punching out X flares for 2 weeks. Haven't seen anything since. Whats happened over the past week is NOTHING compared to 2003 and 2001. But life goes on. All the flares did was knock me out for a few hours.. I felt very tired around 5pm and was out like a light until 8pm. As for nuclear or other source, an EMP, ain't nutting you can do about that. It is up to FATE/DESTINY. I don't see New Yorkers running for the hills or to buy a farm to learn how SELF-SUSTAINABILITY. Ain't gonna happen we are too dependent as a people on government and infrastructures. The article referenced here is total b.s. The was no "near miss" that I know about in May 2013 and the photo of the flare is ridiculous... it is an M flare at best, not even an X. Grow up people and stop trying to fear monger and get ratings. The media... done with 'em!! Here ya go... Solar Kill Shot predicted for Nov 13th-14th Thread: Predicting a Solar Kill Shot Nov. 13th -14th or the 23rd! |
Theobromine User ID: 19876247 United States 11/01/2013 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suggest keeping LUGOLS IODINE on hand. Quoting: No Dhimmi The iodine helps your body eliminate toxins stored in fat, especially bromine which may cause detox symptoms such as pimples and headaches. Other detox symptoms may be fatigue, muscle aches, fever, diarrhea, and brain fog, and skin rashes. Lugol's has been used to treat gout caused by high uric acid in the blood. The uric acid is deposited on the articular cartilage of joints, tendons, and surrounding tissues causing excruciating pain. Lugols can be used topically on the skin for infection and sepsis. It can help open up blocked arteries, disinfect water, and cure bladder infections. It has been shown to reduce or eliminate ovarian cysts, diminish unsightly keloids, loosen phlegm, and reduce or eliminate Peyronie’s Disease and Dupuytron’s contracture. The benefits of iodine in the body are far reaching. Oddly enough, it is the least understood of all the essential trace elements. This is the safest of all the essential trace elements which can be administered in large amounts when in an inorganic nonradioactive form. Iodine is stored throughout your entire body - the skin, teeth, nails, all the organs, and bones. When you have the correct amount of iodine in your body, you are able to: •Maintain your energy level all day •Maintain your weight •Live without aches and pains •Maintain a cheerful and uplifted attitude •Have a clear memory •Able to tolerate cold •Have normal bowel movements; •Have full and shiny hair; and •Obtain restful night at sleep •Have normal skin and supple fingernails [link to www.amazon.com] WOW - THX for the info in this thread. NOONE puts it together including the health stuff like this post. 5 ***** "What are you helping with all this helping?" Buddhist saying |
ITZCOMING User ID: 12781064 United States 11/01/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I have some solar power, enough to run my freezer and lights, radio etc. I can't find any reliable information on how EMPS's affect solar panels though. I know that there is a diode that I may need to replace, maybe. And it may fry the charge controller. A project on the board for me is to make a faraday cage for the controller and inverter. I have the stuff, I just need to do it. In the reading I have done, not everything will be fried. . I've read that some areas, depending on their cover, will be shaded. Think of a car under a carport. I'm looking to build a home at some point. One room will be shielded in aluminum screening, then sheetrocked. This room will house all solar components and the freezer, and serve as storage for other electronics. |
Fuddy-Duddy User ID: 21100567 United States 11/01/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the over 100 nuclear plants in the US and the buildings housing their spent fuel rod pools?? What would happen to these facilities after an EMP?? If you live within (50 miles?) of one of these, shouldn't you be researching this topic if you're preparing? Why do few prepping articles, blogs, etc. never mention this at all?? I would really like to know what the threat is here and if there is a realistic way to prepare if meltdown is a real threat. I have asked this question before and can't get an answer. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln |
ITZCOMING User ID: 12781064 United States 11/01/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suggest keeping LUGOLS IODINE on hand. Quoting: No Dhimmi The iodine helps your body eliminate toxins stored in fat, especially bromine which may cause detox symptoms such as pimples and headaches. Other detox symptoms may be fatigue, muscle aches, fever, diarrhea, and brain fog, and skin rashes. Lugol's has been used to treat gout caused by high uric acid in the blood. The uric acid is deposited on the articular cartilage of joints, tendons, and surrounding tissues causing excruciating pain. Lugols can be used topically on the skin for infection and sepsis. It can help open up blocked arteries, disinfect water, and cure bladder infections. It has been shown to reduce or eliminate ovarian cysts, diminish unsightly keloids, loosen phlegm, and reduce or eliminate Peyronie’s Disease and Dupuytron’s contracture. The benefits of iodine in the body are far reaching. Oddly enough, it is the least understood of all the essential trace elements. This is the safest of all the essential trace elements which can be administered in large amounts when in an inorganic nonradioactive form. Iodine is stored throughout your entire body - the skin, teeth, nails, all the organs, and bones. When you have the correct amount of iodine in your body, you are able to: •Maintain your energy level all day •Maintain your weight •Live without aches and pains •Maintain a cheerful and uplifted attitude •Have a clear memory •Able to tolerate cold •Have normal bowel movements; •Have full and shiny hair; and •Obtain restful night at sleep •Have normal skin and supple fingernails [link to www.amazon.com] WOW - THX for the info in this thread. NOONE puts it together including the health stuff like this post. 5 ***** Lugols is actually one of my storage items, among some other "alternative" health items, like 23ppm silver gel. I can personally attest to the power of silver. IT healed a severe infection on my arm a few years ago when antibiotics were failing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43271241 United States 11/01/2013 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the Carrington event there were arcs off of the telegraph wires. There was very minimal electrical wiring run at that time in 1859. Why does no one use their logic with that one fact? If a telegraph wire arced? Could everything that has wires or exposed wires arc? How would anyone survive the initial visible electricity everywhere? Hate to be the bearer of bad news but has anyone done any thinking on that? Last year I believe there were telephone poles arcing in TX. Imagine that everywhere. Fires. Burn the earth. Sorry. Please think. Anyone know electrical well enough to explain whether or not much wiring would arc? |