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Are you prepared for a EMP? How would you survive?

 
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What we know from history

Most people in this country aren't prepared to survive a serious snow storm or a minor hurricane.

No they are not prepared to survive an EMP

I no sooner posted this than my power went off for about 3 minutes due to high winds/ rain storm
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Not really a prep but I used this website to list all the solar eclipses visible in my area for the next 100 years.

This way I can give those around me something to look forward to.

[link to www.timeanddate.com]
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Not really a prep but I used this website to list all the solar eclipses visible in my area for the next 100 years.

This way I can give those around me something to look forward to.

[link to www.timeanddate.com]
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Also figured out the days in between in case I have no access to a calendar.
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This was a high impedance electrical arcing fault. Usually the upstream protective device (ie. fuse, relay/breaker, recloser, etc.) will interrupt these types of faults and prevent them from continuing. They can start because of tree branches or animals or lightning strikes or anything that can bridge two phases or a phase and ground. The air becomes ionized and no longer acts as an insulator but a conductor. This arc is interesting because it was able to be sustained for such a long period of time.
If the fault has a high enough impedance, the current is actually not very high in comparison to regular faults. This makes it very difficult for the protective device to clear the fault since it the current can even be lower than the normal "load" current. The utility should be able to analyze any event reports in the area from the relays to try and determine what happened and if it can be prevented in the future.
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*boggle*

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Another ‘genie’ slipping out of the bottle.

[link to ph.news.yahoo.com]

Per U.S. nuclear policy, a high altitude EMP attack is treated the same as a nuclear first strike attack. Things would “go ugly early.”

Jim Woolsey, CIA director for Bill Clinton, had some interesting observations here:

[link to www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org]

Among some of the information Woolsey divulged, this snippet is an attention grabber:

“On December 2012, Cooper said, North Korea used its so-called Space Launch Vehicle like a Fractional Orbital Bombardment System – a secret weapon invented by the Russians during the Cold War to deliver a stealthy nuclear attack on the United States by orbiting a nuclear weapon over the south polar region, bypassing U.S. Ballistic Missile Early Warning radars (BMEWs) and missile defenses. Cooper noted that the U.S. has no BMEWs radars or missile interceptors facing south. North Korea apparently orbited a satellite over the south polar region on a trajectory and altitude consistent with making a surprise nuclear EMP attack against the United States”.

As far as possible individual actions aside from standard disaster prepping, two words of advice . . . ‘Faraday cage!”
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“Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack.”


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O man bring it on back to the dark ages .... bliss
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Im watching the Revolution series......so far it seems easy enough to cope....apart from the angry people with guns around.

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hung myself at no internet.
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haha seriously tho some of us would be fine, and lived like this or maybe even grew up like this, life would go on, we lived in caves once, but there will be no emp.
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The answer is to have a great, physical, library of books to read on hand. (not e-books)
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There also exists the possibility of EMP-caused airplane crashes. The average daily peak of air traffic in U.S. airspace includes more than 6,000 commercial aircraft carrying
some 300,000 passengers and crew. Commercial aircraft are protected against lightning strikes but not specifically against EMP. The frequency composition of lightning and
EMP differ enough so that lightning protection does not ensure EMP protection. On the other hand, the margins of safety for lightning protection imposed on commercial aircraft
may provide flight safety in the event of an EMP attack. In any event, we cannot rule out the possibility of airplane crashes.

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This is exactly what I was talking to my Dad about last nite, who is a retired electrician, about how I think the fire and arcing will come right thru the lines INTO the house and out the equipment plugged into them, or just out of the wall. When I was a kid, we had a wall oven and during storms, we would see green arcing fire flashes come out of it, Mom NEVER let s stand by the oven during a storm.
So yes, I think everything that got hit, would just eventually burn from the fire coming thru the lines right into your house! Thanks for thinking!

In the Carrington event there were arcs off of the telegraph wires. There was very minimal electrical wiring run at that time in 1859.

Why does no one use their logic with that one fact? If a telegraph wire arced? Could everything that has wires or exposed wires arc?

How would anyone survive the initial visible electricity everywhere?

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but has anyone done any thinking on that?

Last year I believe there were telephone poles arcing in TX. Imagine that everywhere. Fires. Burn the earth.

Sorry. Please think. Anyone know electrical well enough to explain whether or not much wiring would arc?
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So our brilliants minds of GLP can not think about a solution to all this??

HOw about going right to the root of the problem??

North Korea and Russia??
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SURVIVING THE COLLAPSE

How will you survive the coming collapse? Whether it’s the destruction of the environment that causes a collapse in our way of life, an EMP, or an economic collapse, or a combination of them all – we all need to prepare for worst case scenarios.




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I'm not worried, obama's gonna take care of me out of his stash!!

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I will take an EMP over 7-foot, hurricane tidal surges, hands down.

I have done the latter, twice.

The second time we were hit by a nor'easter loaded with snow and ice a week after Sandy. After going without power or anything associated with it for almost a month, I know exactly how my family is going to survive.

They call it the school of hard knocks.

You learn quick or...
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This is exactly what I was talking to my Dad about last nite, who is a retired electrician, about how I think the fire and arcing will come right thru the lines INTO the house and out the equipment plugged into them, or just out of the wall. When I was a kid, we had a wall oven and during storms, we would see green arcing fire flashes come out of it, Mom NEVER let s stand by the oven during a storm.
So yes, I think everything that got hit, would just eventually burn from the fire coming thru the lines right into your house! Thanks for thinking!
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Especially now that the copper thieves have been cutting the ground wires off every power pole that has a transformer mounted on them.

Go check those types of pole by your house.

The ground for the entire street feed is now THROUGH YOUR HOME POWER PANEL AND INTO THE GROUND ROD FOR YOUR HOUSE!

Yes, I'm shouting.

$2 worth of copper can be the cause for a street of 80 or so homes to burn down and hundreds burned to death. That's with a good lightning strike, never mind EMP.
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Scientists Warn of Worst Case Scenario: “Solar Flares… Will Short Circuit Satellites, Power Grids, Ground Communication Equipment”

Researchers from the University of Colorado Boulder recently completed analyzing data from a Coronal Mass Ejection that took place in the summer of 2012. The CME, which was reportedly the most powerful electrical discharge ever recorded from the sun, narrowly missed earth. It was not “earth directed,” meaning the electro-magnetic mass was ejected by the sun when it was facing away from our planet. However, had it occurred just a week prior, the highly charged particles would have struck earth and, according to CU-Boulder Professor Daniel Baker, would have led to nothing short of a technological disaster across the globe.

The CME itself was massive… and its speed was unprecedented, clocking in at 7 million miles per hour.

While typical coronal mass ejections from the sun take two or three days to reach Earth, the 2012 event traveled from the sun’s surface to Earth in just 18 hours.

“The speed of this event was as fast or faster than anything that has been seen in the modern space age,” said Baker.

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Map: Areas Of Probable Power System Collapse: “130 Million Lacking Power For Several Years”


The report has generated great interest in government and the public, largely owing to the projected scenario of catastrophic damage, including:

- More than 300 EHV transformers destroyed
- 130 million people lacking power for several years until damaged high-voltage transformers are replaced
- 1-2 trillion dollars of economic loss.


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When Roscoe Bartlett was in Congress, he latched onto a particularly apocalyptic issue, one almost no one else ever seemed to talk about: America’s dangerously vulnerable power grid. In speech after late-night speech on the House floor, Bartlett hectored the nearly empty chamber: If the United States doesn’t do something to protect the grid, and soon, a terrorist or an act of nature will put an end to life as we know it.

Bartlett loved to conjure doomsday visions: Think post-Sandy New York City without power—but spread over a much larger area for months at a time. He once recounted a conversation he claimed to have had with unnamed Russian officials about how they could take out the United States: They would “detonate a nuclear weapon high above your country,” he recalled them saying, “and shut down your power grid—and your communications—for six months or so.”

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Forget global warming, worry about the MAGNETOSPHERE: Earth's magnetic field is collapsing and it could affect the climate and wipe out power grids

Earth's magnetic field has weakened by 15 per cent over the last 200 years

Could be a sign that the planet's north and south poles are about to flip

If this happens, solar winds could punch holes into the Earth's ozone layer

This could damage power grids, affect weather and increase cancer rates

Evidence of flip happening in the past has been uncovered in pottery

As the magnetic shield weakens, the spectacle of an aurora would be visible every night all over the Earth


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In testimony before the United States Congress House Armed Services Committee on October 7, 1999, the eminent physicist Dr. Lowell Wood, in talking about Starfish Prime and the related EMP-producing nuclear tests in 1962, stated,

"Most fortunately, these tests took place over Johnston Island in the mid-Pacific rather than the Nevada Test Site, or electromagnetic pulse would still be indelibly imprinted in the minds of the citizenry of the western U.S., as well as in the history books. As it was, significant damage was done to both civilian and military electrical systems throughout the Hawaiian Islands, over 800 miles away from ground zero. The origin and nature of this damage was successfully obscured at the time -- aided by its mysterious character and the essentially incredible truth."


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The Soviet Union got its surprise introduction to the severity of nuclear EMP effects over a much more heavily populated area than the Pacific Ocean. The most damaging nuclear EMP event in history (so far), much worse than the Starfish Prime test, occurred in October of 1962 over central Asia. Written documents give the time and date as 3:41 GMT/UTC on the morning of October 22, 1962. The warhead was launched from Kapustin Yar on a Soviet R-12 missile. Although the primary purpose of the test was to discover the effects of EMP on certain military systems, the magnitude of some of the effects on the civilian infrastructure were quite unexpected.

A few hours after the sun rose in Kazakhstan on that cloudy October morning, the Soviet Union detonated a 300 kiloton thermonuclear warhead in space at an altitude of 290 kilometers (about 180 miles) roughly over the city of Zhezkazgan in central Kazakhstan. The test was generally known only as Test 184 (although some Soviet documents refer to it as K-3). It knocked out a major 1000-kilometer (600-mile) underground power line running from Astana (then called Aqmola), the capital city of Kazakhstan, to the city of Almaty. Several fires were reported. In the city of Karagandy, the EMP started a fire in the city's electrical power plant, which was connected to the long underground power line.

The EMP also knocked out a major 570 kilometer long overhead telephone line by inducing currents of 1500 to 3400 amperes in the line. (The line was separated into several sub-lines connected by repeater stations.) There were numerous gas-filled overvoltage protectors and fuses along the telephone line. All of the overvoltage protectors fired, and all of the fuses on the line were blown. The EMP damaged radios at 600 kilometers (360 miles) from the test and knocked out a radar 1000 kilometers (600 miles) from the detonation. Some military diesel generators were also damaged. The repeated damage to diesel generators from the E1 component of the pulse after the series of high-altitude tests was the most surprising aspect of the damage for the Soviet scientists.

Subsequent analysis has shown that the warhead used in the 1962 Soviet test was particularly ineffective at generating EMP. If the W49 warhead used in the U.S. Starfish Prime test had been used in the Soviet tests, the EMP damage over Kazakhstan would have been far greater.

Both the United States and the Soviet Union detonated EMP-generating nuclear weapons tests in space during the darkest days of the Cuban Missile Crisis, when the world was already on the brink of nuclear war.

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