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SparrowSong User ID: 60051037 United States 09/02/2014 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is our government ready, is the big question , if this happened and war everywhere just gonna be a mess the readiness you really need to have is Armour of God Quoting: Goofy for God God helps those who help themselves. God helps those that Love God and keep the ways of God, and treat each other with Love and Kindness, here, on Earth. |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 09/02/2014 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It appears to be north of the ecliptic, but they wont know for sure if earth will be effected until they get more data. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62355468 Portugal 09/02/2014 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recently I bought some basic medical supplies to sort of fill out what I already have. I went to Amazon.com and got one of those scopes that the doctor uses to look in the ear, a little stethescope and blood pressure cuff, and a battery operated no contact thermometer. I can use rechargeable batteries in the thermometer and it is pretty sturdy. Mercury thermometers I have already, but there are drawbacks. If we are looking at a situation were we may encounter epidemics, I do not want to be using an under the tongue thermometer, I want the ill person to stand over there while I stand over here and take the temp. Quoting: Lil Sis I also bought some of that spray on artificial skin and some wet pack burn bandages. These are consumables, but I think that getting through the first few months is top priority, and these things are quick and effective. For larger wounds, you should have some Quick Clot, powder or bandages. It's a little more expensive that most first aid supplies, but it's like a papachute (if you need it and don't have it, you will never need it again). I have Celox hemostatic powder in my first aid kit, and some israeli combat bandages. Together, they can stop almost every kind of arterial bleeding. Celox is much better than Quick Clot because it does not heat up upon application(exothermic reaction), does not need detox after the event (not easy to find a ER room capable of removing the nasty stuff of Quick Clot from your body in a SHTF scenario), and it is completely natural, the active ingredient of Celox is Chitosan, present in crustacean shells. |
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pmb1 User ID: 60722812 United States 09/02/2014 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One major problem will be the nuclear power plants that reqire power for cooling. Once the power is off, maybe the back-up power plants wil run the cooling system for a week or two. That may or may not be enough to safely shut the reactors down. If they do get them shut down, the problem is the spent rods stored at the reactors. They require a constant supply of cooling water. Without it, we will have dozens of Fukishimas all over the world. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Shearon Harris Nuclear plant is about 20 miles from where I live now. However the winds normally don't blow in this direction. Am I worried about it?? To a point, but where the wind normally doesn't blow this way I am not going to freak out about it. If I have to move on there really isn't much place at all in the US where you can move that there isn't a nuke plant. So might as well stay put. |
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Lil Sis User ID: 62453489 United States 09/02/2014 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recently I bought some basic medical supplies to sort of fill out what I already have. I went to Amazon.com and got one of those scopes that the doctor uses to look in the ear, a little stethescope and blood pressure cuff, and a battery operated no contact thermometer. I can use rechargeable batteries in the thermometer and it is pretty sturdy. Mercury thermometers I have already, but there are drawbacks. If we are looking at a situation were we may encounter epidemics, I do not want to be using an under the tongue thermometer, I want the ill person to stand over there while I stand over here and take the temp. Quoting: Lil Sis I also bought some of that spray on artificial skin and some wet pack burn bandages. These are consumables, but I think that getting through the first few months is top priority, and these things are quick and effective. The battery powered thermometer wouldn't work. All electronic devices would be useless, unless you kept them in some kind of EMP-proof container. Yup. It's small enough to fit in an EMP proof container Last Edited by Lil Sis on 09/02/2014 08:21 PM ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54705353 United States 09/02/2014 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recently I bought some basic medical supplies to sort of fill out what I already have. I went to Amazon.com and got one of those scopes that the doctor uses to look in the ear, a little stethescope and blood pressure cuff, and a battery operated no contact thermometer. I can use rechargeable batteries in the thermometer and it is pretty sturdy. Mercury thermometers I have already, but there are drawbacks. If we are looking at a situation were we may encounter epidemics, I do not want to be using an under the tongue thermometer, I want the ill person to stand over there while I stand over here and take the temp. Quoting: Lil Sis I also bought some of that spray on artificial skin and some wet pack burn bandages. These are consumables, but I think that getting through the first few months is top priority, and these things are quick and effective. For larger wounds, you should have some Quick Clot, powder or bandages. It's a little more expensive that most first aid supplies, but it's like a papachute (if you need it and don't have it, you will never need it again). Add zinc ointment to your supplies if you haven't already. |
pmb1 User ID: 60722812 United States 09/02/2014 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have plenty of things stock piled for now just in case if something should happen. I know I need extra batteries though and some more solar lights that I can recharge when needed outside. Quoting: pmb1 However I am I guess one of the lucky ones. I lived in Maine for 2 years with no running water, no electric and no phone. All that with 2 kids in diapers and me pregnant with #3. So yeah I know what living without electric and stuff is all about. It isn't a biggie for me. Where we live many of the folks would leave and head towards cities thinking that would be better for them. However they will find out quickly how bad it will get. I have been stock piling many items that are on sale, weekly, and monthly, along with items they are closing out on. Right now I have a 12 months supply of dishwasher packs, that cost me less then $15 for all of it because they were closing out on it, and I had a coupon for it. So I only paid $1 to $1.50 a pack. Laundry detergent I have about 6 months supply of, and Aspirin I have 3 years supply of. As for food and water I have close to 9 months worth put away. That doesn't include the fresh eggs we get daily from the chickens. Yeah I can make due if the power and the cars go. Believe me it would be much easier then you think. Wow, you'd be a good person to answer the psychological preparation question that was asked earlier. I know what I think, I'm just not sure I could put it in words that would make sense for anybody else. The psychological part of it will go away after about a month. It's fairly easy to give up what you had once you realize that you are to darn busy to ponder on it all. Personally I use to think at first about all that I had given up. However after the first month I realized I was to busy preparing for the garden, canning, and cleaning up the property so we could build on to even think about what I had lost. Then you have carrying water, boiling water, canning, dehydrating foods. Cutting wood for the winter months, planting crops, taking care of the farm animals. You want have time left at the end of the day to worry. Sure many will die, will parish from the heat, or the cold, and having no water, but if you learn how to do things before it all happens you will be ready for most anything. However someone will have to dispose of all the bodies, People need to prepare their minds for that before something does happen. Never give up. Life is worth living no matter what. I lived through 3 major heart attacks, I even died and was brought back. All I could think of is that I need to live because my family needed me. Someone out there needs us, and that is enough for all of us to want to live and not give up. What I do recommend for people to have is a gas stove. You can always cook and can on it, even with no power and you can get a peculator and make coffee. A wood stove takes forever to cook on. I found that out the hard way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51818906 United States 09/02/2014 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very sorry that I didn't read past page four... but most of it is old news for me. ONE QUESTION that may have been answered is... does an emp affect an led bulb ??? they are electronic and it worries that my solar panels are connected to leds ... work great now, but what about an emp? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26323398 United States 09/02/2014 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd eat tree bark, random mushrooms, bugs, and the family dog. No, not really. Look after an emp with everybody just surviving, the first thing to happen is roving gangs of thugs pillaging resources and people in desperation. Because nobody is going to get 911 calls are they? It's community-based survival then. Which would be...ACTING AS NORMAL. Civilian. Civil. Getting along. So I'd go off human standby mode. My brain would reactivate after it was numbed from the surveillance antenna towers dotted about the land. I would hear the ground waves and the planet waves again. Oh sweet jesus I miss those sounds; the invasive electrics hurt so much. I'd triangulate by the stellar rotation around the axis of the planet. I'd find water, number one. Number two, fire. Then, it's like urban camping. Just consider some desert lands where they live like that ALL THE TIME. Where the fuck did we come from a thousand years ago? Nobody ever heard of a razor scooter? Sheesh. OMG, where did the X-box go? we're all gonna die!! What do you mean I have to wash my underwear by hand, in a barrel of water? What do you mean I have to poop in a bucket? C'mon, Californians and their earthquake, riot, fire, and mudslide survival training gets them through 2 weeks, and after that, we find a friggin' way to get things moving like old times. Provided, no invasion. There is always radio. It can be cranked by hand for power. |
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Bob User ID: 61414558 United States 09/02/2014 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone every notice that The Humungus and Bane sound alike? If you see something, say nothing, and drink to forget. Welcome to Night Vale. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54705353 United States 09/02/2014 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATM machine is redundant as the "M" in the acronym stands for machine. WTF would you do with money other than wipe your ass with it? Stitch it together and wear a money coat. It's cloth not paper. Haha, that's creative. You could make a hat too. |
Botany girl User ID: 44353767 United States 09/02/2014 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have plenty of things stock piled for now just in case if something should happen. I know I need extra batteries though and some more solar lights that I can recharge when needed outside. Quoting: pmb1 However I am I guess one of the lucky ones. I lived in Maine for 2 years with no running water, no electric and no phone. All that with 2 kids in diapers and me pregnant with #3. So yeah I know what living without electric and stuff is all about. It isn't a biggie for me. Where we live many of the folks would leave and head towards cities thinking that would be better for them. However they will find out quickly how bad it will get. I have been stock piling many items that are on sale, weekly, and monthly, along with items they are closing out on. Right now I have a 12 months supply of dishwasher packs, that cost me less then $15 for all of it because they were closing out on it, and I had a coupon for it. So I only paid $1 to $1.50 a pack. Laundry detergent I have about 6 months supply of, and Aspirin I have 3 years supply of. As for food and water I have close to 9 months worth put away. That doesn't include the fresh eggs we get daily from the chickens. Yeah I can make due if the power and the cars go. Believe me it would be much easier then you think. You are way ahead of the game with your experience. Any tips to share with us that we might not have thought of? |
The Dr. User ID: 47277269 United States 09/02/2014 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you had an EMP, you would go back to the 1800's for a few years. Today no one has the skills people had back then. Quoting: indiandave How many people know how to plant and maintain a garden? How many people know how to can? How many people know how to hunt? How many people know how to spin yarn and sew? How many people can make candles or soap? You can add lots of stuff to this list. We would be so screwed. Actually its not for a few years, but a lifetime. Once society collapses and the technical people are either dead or scattered, the chances of restarting society is quite small in the short term. To do a restart, requires replacement parts from overseas. How will you tell them what to send? How will you pay for it? Who and with what equipment will you use to install it, to get it operational? Electrical Transformers weigh in the tons. This is just for the generating and power substations, then you must fix the downed power lines, any open natural gas lines(an explosion risk), water lines, etc. Now the Feeding, Housing, Transporting and Communication for the workers, for the months of work to complete such a project is another matter. All this assumes the world economy survives both the collapse of the US Stock Market and whatever the source of the EMP was,(like WW3). So would not be a easy project even if attempted at one local level at a time. “An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.” ~ Benjamin Franklin |
Botany girl User ID: 44353767 United States 09/02/2014 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dinkytuff I've heard so many people say they'd rather be one of the first to die...not me, I'm planning on living. Dying is for quitters...haha. If there is an EMP they wont have the resources to round anyone up. And at least you have a plan, that's more than 98% of the population. Kinda hard to plan when you have no idea of what may really happen. With all the expected 'doom' in our future, it's anybody's guess how it's going to go down. I just try to keep my eyes open, and go with it. The other thing is, who knows where you'll be when and if something horrible happens? I think about that as well. Some plans are only based on you being in the right place at the right time. Just gonna play it by ear. Exactly but when you're stuck in traffic/town and all of a sudden every car quits running and there's no power or cell phones and everyone's milling around wondering what to do, your going to know enough to get the hell out of there and head for someplace else, before some dumbass decides to take control of a crowd looking for someone/anyone to tell them what to do. I agree. More than once I've been stuck on Baltimore/DC highways, pondering those stone and metal 'sound barriers' that line many miles of roadway. Can you imagine being on such a stretch, with no way to filter into the surrounding neighborhoods or towns? (those doors in the walls are always locked). Sometimes you have to walk a very long way, just to get to an overpass or some break in the walls. I can only hope that I don't get stuck in that situation. Used to live up that way too. Make sure you have a few things in your car- comfortable shoes, coat or sweatshirt- whatever, some water. I keep a small backpack in my car with matches, hand crank radio, some snacks, few medical things, one of those silly mylar blankets- a small, lightweight tent would be awesome, blanket, pillow, hand wipes. Just some stuff in case. |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 100809 United States 09/03/2014 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was this time of year 155 years ago when the solar super storm, now known as the Carrington Event, took place during solar cycle 10. The event has been named for the British astronomer, Richard Carrington, as he observed from his own private observatory the largest solar flare during this event which caused a major coronal mass ejection (CME) to travel directly toward Earth. The 33-year-old astronomer - widely acknowledged at the time to be England’s best - also recorded in detailed fashion the appearance of the sunspot regions that he saw at the time. From August 28, 1859 to September 2, 1859 numerous sunspots and solar flares were observed on the sun and auroras were being observed in different parts of the world. Just before noon on September 1st, Richard Carrington was using his telescope to project an 11-inch wide image of the sun on a screen and he carefully drew the sunspots that he saw. Suddenly, two brilliant beads of blinding white light appeared over the sunspots and he realized that he was witnessing something unprecedented. He left for about one minute to find another witness and found upon their return that much had already subsided. Just before dawn the next day, skies all over Earth erupted in red, green and purple auroras - even in tropical locations like Cuba, the Bahamas and Hawaii. The massive solar flare caused a major CME that reached the Earth some 17.6 hours later. Normally such a journey takes 3 or 4 days, but an earlier CME actually cleared the way of the ambient solar plasma for the second blast to move so quickly. The auroras were so bright over the Rocky Mountains that their glow awoke gold miners who began preparing breakfast because they thought it was morning. People in the northeastern US could read a newspaper by the aurora’s light. Telegraph systems all over Europe and North America went haywire and, in some cases, telegraph operators were literally shocked as sparks were flying and telegraph paper was often set on fire. Some systems continued to work despite being disconnected from their power supplies as aurora-induced electric currents still allowed messages to be transmitted. Now we know that solar flares happen frequently, especially during solar sunspot maximums, but in those days there were no X-ray satellites or radio telescopes and no one knew flares existed until that September morning. “It is rare that one can actually see the brightening of the solar surface which takes a lot of energy to heat up the surface of the sun” says a modern day NASA astronomer. “In the 160-year record of geomagnetic storms, the Carrington event is the biggest.” In fact, going back farther in time by examining Arctic ice (energetic particles leave nitrates in ice cores), it is estimated that this event may have been the biggest in 500 years and nearly twice as big as the runner-up. In today’s world, electronic technologies have become embedded into everyday life and are, of course, quite vulnerable to solar activity. Power lines, long-distance telephone cables, radar, cell phones, GPS, satellites – all could be significantly affected by an event like this one. The good news is that observations of the sun are a constant in today’s world with a fleet of spacecraft in position to monitor the sun and gather data on solar flares. The bad news is that the Carrington Event occurred during a weak solar cycle which actually resembles rather closely our current solar cycle so we always have to stay on guard for a potential powerful solar storm - even during times of weak solar cycles. ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
krinkfan User ID: 1527832 United States 09/03/2014 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always thought prepping is a little overrated, stuff can be taken from you. Surviving is going to be about what you know. Quoting: Dinkytuff Very good point. Experience, improvisation, versatility. so you're one of those taker types? you'll just commandeer what you need? basic preps is not overrated IMO. at some point even the most prepped will need to venture out but the longer you can go without the better. Nope definitely not a taker, I want to get into heaven someday...and please don't start with the no God thing. There are other threads for that. But if the shtf preps will eventually run out, and you will need to go back to basics. And if you have to run you can only take so much with you. no worries, no God talk needed. just checking.... "the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted every day is starting to rapidly disappear." |
krinkfan User ID: 1527832 United States 09/03/2014 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Recently I bought some basic medical supplies to sort of fill out what I already have. I went to Amazon.com and got one of those scopes that the doctor uses to look in the ear, a little stethescope and blood pressure cuff, and a battery operated no contact thermometer. I can use rechargeable batteries in the thermometer and it is pretty sturdy. Mercury thermometers I have already, but there are drawbacks. If we are looking at a situation were we may encounter epidemics, I do not want to be using an under the tongue thermometer, I want the ill person to stand over there while I stand over here and take the temp. Quoting: Lil Sis I also bought some of that spray on artificial skin and some wet pack burn bandages. These are consumables, but I think that getting through the first few months is top priority, and these things are quick and effective. For larger wounds, you should have some Quick Clot, powder or bandages. It's a little more expensive that most first aid supplies, but it's like a papachute (if you need it and don't have it, you will never need it again). I have Celox hemostatic powder in my first aid kit, and some israeli combat bandages. Together, they can stop almost every kind of arterial bleeding. Celox is much better than Quick Clot because it does not heat up upon application(exothermic reaction), does not need detox after the event (not easy to find a ER room capable of removing the nasty stuff of Quick Clot from your body in a SHTF scenario), and it is completely natural, the active ingredient of Celox is Chitosan, present in crustacean shells. i was talking about fisrt aid with a young friend that recently joined the Marines and is a medic assistant. he said they are moving away from the powders because they found the powders are causing clots to move through your body. the only thing they carry now is gauze impregnated with quick clot type stuff. of course if you have a deep one, the granules is the only way but i suppose you could still try and stuff the gauze/quick clot into the wound. "the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted every day is starting to rapidly disappear." |
krinkfan User ID: 1527832 United States 09/03/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very sorry that I didn't read past page four... but most of it is old news for me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51818906 ONE QUESTION that may have been answered is... does an emp affect an led bulb ??? they are electronic and it worries that my solar panels are connected to leds ... work great now, but what about an emp? things like this are unknown since no one has experienced it BUT from what i've read, small items like that might be spared if they are not powered up. i also read that the wave length of the EMP is so long that is your item in question is shorter than the wave length it might be spared. "the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted every day is starting to rapidly disappear." |
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