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Pensions: 'I Am A Retired Detroit Cop. I Hope This Will Not Happen To You.'
"I am a retired Detroit Police Officer and this is my story. I hope this will not happen to you.

I joined the Detroit Police Department in 1986. At that time the city had an agreement with the federal government that made Detroit Police officers ineligible for social security and Medicare. We were led to believe that this was to our benefit. We were told that we would be taken care of upon retirement with a pension and health care.

Today, this is no longer true. Because of the bankruptcy filing by the city of Detroit, the Emergency Manager has stripped me and my fellow officers of our health-care coverage and is trying to void our pension income.

I spent more than 23 years with the Detroit Police Department as a patrol officer. I patrolled the streets of Detroit. I answered calls for service. I did not have an administrative job, nor was I an executive. I have seen some really horrific scenes and fought against the worst violent acts that most people cannot even imagine."

[link to www.deadlinedetroit.com]

This is the result of decades of Democrat mismanagement and terrible destructive policies as the democrat politician assured themselves of unending power by using tax money to buy votes with the promise of "free-stuff."

Now this man who served his city has nothing and will get precisely nothing from a bankrupt city...

I will not ask the obvious question, but I will place bets and say that this unionized police officer never considered voting for anyone other than a democrat...
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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
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Regardless, you damn fool, he was hired and he accepted the terms. The terms were not met.

Can we get an Aussie ban please? Most of you "people" truly lend credence to establishing, once again Australia being the international prison colony....one of the things the Limey's actually were correct about..
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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
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Yes, I have no doubt that he did, but he also entered into a contract and trusted that it would be honored.

It is like so many other broken promises that Democrats make..."If you like your healthcare..." etc...
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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
 Quoting: last one


Regardless, you damn fool, he was hired and he accepted the terms. The terms were not met.

Can we get an Aussie ban please? Most of you "people" truly lend credence to establishing, once again Australia being the international prison colony....one of the things the Limey's actually were correct about..
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I agree with you...who would have ever thought that a major US city is bankrupt? Am I the only one who is ashamed to the core by our crumbling infrastructure? These are not the cities of a great country.

Thank you democrats....

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Thank you for the stars...

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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
 Quoting: last one


Yes, I have no doubt that he did, but he also entered into a contract and trusted that it would be honored.

It is like so many other broken promises that Democrats make..."If you like your healthcare..." etc...
 Quoting: davvi


That's what I meant by karma being a bitch. The union leeches have drained cities coffers for years with their supposed sweetheart deals on pensions, retirements, etc. I stand by my statement.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa

Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me

I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was

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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
 Quoting: last one


Regardless, you damn fool, he was hired and he accepted the terms. The terms were not met.

Can we get an Aussie ban please? Most of you "people" truly lend credence to establishing, once again Australia being the international prison colony....one of the things the Limey's actually were correct about..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49613170


Aussie?lmaoYou ignorant fuck, unless they've moved Australia to mid-Missouri, I'm as American as apple pie.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa

Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me

I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was

"we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister
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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
 Quoting: last one


Yes, I have no doubt that he did, but he also entered into a contract and trusted that it would be honored.

It is like so many other broken promises that Democrats make..."If you like your healthcare..." etc...
 Quoting: davvi


That's what I meant by karma being a bitch. The union leeches have drained cities coffers for years with their supposed sweetheart deals on pensions, retirements, etc. I stand by my statement.
 Quoting: last one


And like always it is the little guy who gets burned. This man is disabled and far too old to get job. So guess what we as in all of the taxpayer will have to pick up the tab for him and his dependents.

I blame him yes, but have no joy in doing so..especially when his bills come due.

:iolh:
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Karma is a bitch. I'll bet this dude voted straight "D" ticket his whole life, and laughed about his sweet deal he was getting. cruise
 Quoting: last one


Yes, I have no doubt that he did, but he also entered into a contract and trusted that it would be honored.

It is like so many other broken promises that Democrats make..."If you like your healthcare..." etc...
 Quoting: davvi


That's what I meant by karma being a bitch. The union leeches have drained cities coffers for years with their supposed sweetheart deals on pensions, retirements, etc. I stand by my statement.
 Quoting: last one


And like always it is the little guy who gets burned. This man is disabled and far too old to get job. So guess what we as in all of the taxpayer will have to pick up the tab for him and his dependents.

I blame him yes, but have no joy in doing so..especially when his bills come due.

:iolh:
 Quoting: davvi


I will agree with the "no joy" part. I wish hardship on no one.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa

Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me

I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was

"we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister
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Yes, I have no doubt that he did, but he also entered into a contract and trusted that it would be honored.

It is like so many other broken promises that Democrats make..."If you like your healthcare..." etc...
 Quoting: davvi


That's what I meant by karma being a bitch. The union leeches have drained cities coffers for years with their supposed sweetheart deals on pensions, retirements, etc. I stand by my statement.
 Quoting: last one


And like always it is the little guy who gets burned. This man is disabled and far too old to get job. So guess what we as in all of the taxpayer will have to pick up the tab for him and his dependents.

I blame him yes, but have no joy in doing so..especially when his bills come due.

:iolh:
 Quoting: davvi


I will agree with the "no joy" part. I wish hardship on no one.
 Quoting: last one


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Liberals are nothing more than bloodsucking liars.
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Liberals are nothing more than bloodsucking liars.
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:807 agree:
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Don't worry they will get a bail out
The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
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Re: Pensions: 'I Am A Retired Detroit Cop. I Hope This Will Not Happen To You.'
That's what happen when these cities and airlines give high wages for not so much and promise pie in the sky when they retire. It's just not sustainable. Too fucking bad for the cop, but he chose where to work poorly.
I'm not sure why he gets to retire with less than 30 years. Just more bennies they promised. What was the retirement check that they can't pay? $5000 a month?
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"I am a retired Detroit Police Officer and this is my story. I hope this will not happen to you.

I joined the Detroit Police Department in 1986. At that time the city had an agreement with the federal government that made Detroit Police officers ineligible for social security and Medicare. We were led to believe that this was to our benefit. We were told that we would be taken care of upon retirement with a pension and health care.

Today, this is no longer true. Because of the bankruptcy filing by the city of Detroit, the Emergency Manager has stripped me and my fellow officers of our health-care coverage and is trying to void our pension income.

I spent more than 23 years with the Detroit Police Department as a patrol officer. I patrolled the streets of Detroit. I answered calls for service. I did not have an administrative job, nor was I an executive. I have seen some really horrific scenes and fought against the worst violent acts that most people cannot even imagine."

[link to www.deadlinedetroit.com]

This is the result of decades of Democrat mismanagement and terrible destructive policies as the democrat politician assured themselves of unending power by using tax money to buy votes with the promise of "free-stuff."

Now this man who served his city has nothing and will get precisely nothing from a bankrupt city...

I will not ask the obvious question, but I will place bets and say that this unionized police officer never considered voting for anyone other than a democrat...
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I don't believe a word you wrote.
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Re: Pensions: 'I Am A Retired Detroit Cop. I Hope This Will Not Happen To You.'
you are a jack booted thug that gave allegence to and worked for the evil empire to damn bad. thats the karma. poor little gov puke wont get his money. well guess what none of us are.
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Read a lot of stories about selling your soul to the devil. Never works out for anyone.
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When will the police figure out the enemy isn't the people it's the people they are protecting!
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Don't worry they will get a bail out
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Which we, of course, will pay for too...is there no end to the politicians' corruption. The money that they steal, they don't tax they steal with the full weight of the monstrous government behind them.

When will we say enough?
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When will the police figure out the enemy isn't the people it's the people they are protecting!
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The government has separated the average person from supporting the police. Look at the half wits police departments are forced to hire. Look at how low the standards to become a police have fallen.

Do you trust any government agency anymore?
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That's what happen when these cities and airlines give high wages for not so much and promise pie in the sky when they retire. It's just not sustainable. Too fucking bad for the cop, but he chose where to work poorly.
I'm not sure why he gets to retire with less than 30 years. Just more bennies they promised. What was the retirement check that they can't pay? $5000 a month?
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I think he is disabled...which means that he will not be able to get another job. Now that might not bother you but know that you will be paying for him whether you want to or not...
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"I am a retired Detroit Police Officer and this is my story. I hope this will not happen to you.

I joined the Detroit Police Department in 1986. At that time the city had an agreement with the federal government that made Detroit Police officers ineligible for social security and Medicare. We were led to believe that this was to our benefit. We were told that we would be taken care of upon retirement with a pension and health care.

Today, this is no longer true. Because of the bankruptcy filing by the city of Detroit, the Emergency Manager has stripped me and my fellow officers of our health-care coverage and is trying to void our pension income.

I spent more than 23 years with the Detroit Police Department as a patrol officer. I patrolled the streets of Detroit. I answered calls for service. I did not have an administrative job, nor was I an executive. I have seen some really horrific scenes and fought against the worst violent acts that most people cannot even imagine."

[link to www.deadlinedetroit.com]

This is the result of decades of Democrat mismanagement and terrible destructive policies as the democrat politician assured themselves of unending power by using tax money to buy votes with the promise of "free-stuff."

Now this man who served his city has nothing and will get precisely nothing from a bankrupt city...

I will not ask the obvious question, but I will place bets and say that this unionized police officer never considered voting for anyone other than a democrat...
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I don't believe a word you wrote.
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Well that's me, sleepless tonight...

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Don't worry they will get a bail out
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I been wondering how all this plays out since reading that the postal service defaulted.The mail is still going,the offices are open and retired are still getting their checks.
So if that big word DEFAULT happens and we see no difference,whats funding it.
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Don't worry they will get a bail out
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I been wondering how all this plays out since reading that the postal service defaulted.The mail is still going,the offices are open and retired are still getting their checks.
So if that big word DEFAULT happens and we see no difference,whats funding it.
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Is there some kind of emergency federal funding? I just don't know...
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Hey OP, was Social Security and Medicare taken out of your paycheck ? If it was, then you are eligible to receive it !
Contact a lawyer that specializes in SS issues .....
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you are a jack booted thug that gave allegence to and worked for the evil empire to damn bad. thats the karma. poor little gov puke wont get his money. well guess what none of us are.
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^this..
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Don't worry they will get a bail out
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I been wondering how all this plays out since reading that the postal service defaulted.The mail is still going,the offices are open and retired are still getting their checks.
So if that big word DEFAULT happens and we see no difference,whats funding it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49620614


Is there some kind of emergency federal funding? I just don't know...
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I dont know either but it seems that big word DEFAULT raises panic so when I seen the postal service had defaulted I guess I expected something but honestly I havent noticed anything any different.

So now I am wondering if the US DEFAULTS will we notice..
I really have no idea what to think anymore.
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How many dogs did he kill?
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Don't worry they will get a bail out
 Quoting: YaRight


I been wondering how all this plays out since reading that the postal service defaulted.The mail is still going,the offices are open and retired are still getting their checks.
So if that big word DEFAULT happens and we see no difference,whats funding it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49620614


Is there some kind of emergency federal funding? I just don't know...
 Quoting: davvi

Governments aren't the only ones canceling health insurance to retirees. US Pipe and Foundry company canceled Health Insurance to its retirees 2 years ago. Heck they are making record profits. 30 years of hard work and they do that, that is outrageous, but no one cares. The cities and governments that purchase Pipe should think twice, as they US Pipe dump their promises on the governments. The executives need million dollar bonuses, and the owner Wynchurch needs the money more than the retirees need health insurance.

At 65 medicaid takes over so its not like its a lot of money. The other pipe companies are a lot more humane, they honor their obligations to retirees.
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Hey OP, was Social Security and Medicare taken out of your paycheck ? If it was, then you are eligible to receive it !
Contact a lawyer that specializes in SS issues .....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14753190


No the cop said that Detroit had a special exemption from paying into medicare and social security. The city assured them it was not necessary and really who ever would have thought Detroit would go bankrupt?





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