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Washington State Rebuts Obama Plan To Allow Old Health Insurance Policies

 
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What a asshat
Someone kick him out
Washington is crazy liberal and full of bureaucrats with too much authority. They don't even lie about being socialist out here. They are cracking down hard on freedom out here
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He is a shit stick .
People like him are the reason I said goodbye to the democrap party years ago.
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What a asshat
Someone kick him out
Washington is crazy liberal and full of bureaucrats with too much authority. They don't even lie about being socialist out here. They are cracking down hard on freedom out here
 Quoting: violentoppisition


He is a shit stick .
People like him are the reason I said goodbye to the democrap party years ago.
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What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


liberty
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bump for the obviously clueless among us.
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hesright

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Great, I live in a Washington. No letter from the insurance company so far. I'll pray it stays that way.
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What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


:liberty:
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bump for the obviously clueless among us.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Oh, I suppose that's true. Wow, this just all around FUBAR isn't it.
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Great, I live in a Washington. No letter from the insurance company so far. I'll pray it stays that way.
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Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.


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What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


liberty
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


bump for the obviously clueless among us.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Oh, I suppose that's true. Wow, this just all around FUBAR isn't it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45564894


It's truly a death spiral and what Obama has done is literally just added fuel to the Obamacare bonfire.

...not to mention what he is offering is 100% ILLEGAL and he has NO POWER to do so.


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Great, I live in a Washington. No letter from the insurance company so far. I'll pray it stays that way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45564894


Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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He didn't get the memo on time. But whats that compared to a President who wasn't told the website was doa.

1 year delay ... extra extra extra --- legal.
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Great, I live in a Washington. No letter from the insurance company so far. I'll pray it stays that way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45564894


Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Chrit


YEP

DOOMER
TRUTH.. it's stranger than FICTION..

to be sure we are on the same "page" we must first be in the same BOOK

“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. The gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Matthew 7:13-14

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What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


:liberty:
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You are right, of course, but from the rhetoric I've been hearing since his "speech" this afternoon, it almost sounds like most of Congress has NO IDEA of what the executive branch can - or cannot - do....

If we elect representatives who are DUMBER than the mass, we get what we deserve....
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Re: Washington State Rebuts Obama Plan To Allow Old Health Insurance Policies
What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


liberty
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater



You are right, of course, but from the rhetoric I've been hearing since his "speech" this afternoon, it almost sounds like most of Congress has NO IDEA of what the executive branch can - or cannot - do....

If we elect representatives who are DUMBER than the mass, we get what we deserve....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47104454


Congress has been ENGINEERED to be docile and impotent by the Lefties.

Wake them and America up by making SURE you get the word out....

OBAMA HAS NO LEGAL RIGHT TO OFFER ANYTHING.
HE CANNOT MAKE LAW.



Keep reposting and forwarding it to everyone until the brain dead among us everywhere GET IT.

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I have never seen this country as fucked up as it is now.

We have a bipolar running our country by the seat of his pants.

This is going to get worse. When people start calling their insurance companies to get back their old policies and are told..no way..all hell is going to break loose.

I give it till Monday of next week to explode.
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I agree. I'm 62 and have NEVER EVER see such FUCKAGE by the Federal Government... This calls for an Adjutant General of the Joint Chiefs to relieve us all from this FUCKAGE NOW.

Only the Adjutant General of the Joint Chiefs can remove a standing President for FUCKAGE.
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Is this the same as IMPEACHMENT proceedings?
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Seattle has elected a Gay Mayor this place is liberal- KING County voted to label GMO foods-but it lost to the lies in the smaller counties

45%-55%-thats not a number to be ashamed of since Monsanto kicked $8 million into the NO coffers, and the yes had about $1 million
 Quoting: Pulsarman


We had a questionable mayor here too a while back.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Other than that the "east side" of WA is more conservative imho.

Last Edited by ConspiracyorReality on 11/14/2013 10:43 PM
TRUTH.. it's stranger than FICTION..

to be sure we are on the same "page" we must first be in the same BOOK

“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. The gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Matthew 7:13-14

Connect The Dots ... they will lead you to The Answer
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This is the same dickwad who was here 20 years ago as a representative doing commercials about assault weapons and how the public shouldn't have them when that was a hot topic...

These fuckers NEVER LEAVE, they just jockey around from office to office... the guy isn't qualified for shit, he just jumps from election to election climbing the ladder.

Look at his wikipedia entry - he just gets bumped all around filling positions he has no natural aptitude for, other than as political payoffs.
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He's right though. As much as Obama and the people want to roll back to the old plans, it cannot be done. If they do force it those people that would have been bumped into Obamacare will no longer be in Obamacare. This is crash Obamacare financially. If they don't roll those plans back a majority of those people may not participate anyway for various reasons.

It's hilarious actually. Obama has finally gotten himself into a lose / lose situation. He either illegally forces the insurance companies to break the law by providing plans that aren't legal under the ACA and bankrupts the ACA because of it, or he sees people that lost their plans throw a shit fit because their plans got axed. I love it.
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What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


:liberty:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


You are right. Obama keeps changing set laws which by law of this government is unlawful.

Changing set laws...sounds familiar in a book I know.

I am a late bloomer with politics since about the clinton era. Do any old timers ever remember a leader changing laws as president or is a first? I say this because its biblical.

More than a coincidence.
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Because of the botched rollout, Obamacare is now in real trouble. We're launching an emergency campaign to save Obamacare by pushing back on Republicans and Democrats who support unraveling this historic achievement we fought so hard …

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by MoveOn.org

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4 move mate


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IMPEACH AND REPEAL....


NOW!!!


ACCEPT "THE TRUTH" NOW!!!


IS "THE POWER" TO IMPEACH AND REPEAL!!!
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can he do that?
I mean legally?

Isn't this a descion for the Wa State Legistlature?

Is Commissioner Mike Kreidler above the law?
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can he do that?
I mean legally?

Isn't this a descion for the Wa State Legistlature?

Is Commissioner Mike Kreidler above the law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


I am not totally sure on the legality, but I believe the healthcare law is Federal. So its out of the states hands.

Technically the Washington State rep doesn't have the authority to act outside the Fed law just as the president doesn't have the right. I believe that is what the above poster was saying.

All Fed law originate and are ammended through congress I believe.

So if Obama ever does get reprimanded for acting outside constitutional law then so would the state officials who deviated from the Fed Law without proper Authority. Could be a wipe out in government officials across multiple states if they act on what Obama is doing because it was found unlawful. Who in congress would folow that...could be playing with fire.

So as the above poster stated...Washington State officials are telling Obama...your decision to deviate from Fed Law is unlawful and I will not follow suit.

Please someone correct me if I am wrong because I really do not have a extensive background in constitutional law...

Just seeing from an average citizen point of view.
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What a asshat
Someone kick him out
Washington is crazy liberal and full of bureaucrats with too much authority. They don't even lie about being socialist out here. They are cracking down hard on freedom out here
 Quoting: violentoppisition


Western Washington is. The eastern part is fairly conservative, although some Seattlites have infiltrated. Spokane also has Gonzaga University, which in addition to a national talent basketball team, is full of liberals.

Eastern WA should secede and form its own state. Use the Pacific Crest as a boundary due to water issues.
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Re: Washington State Rebuts Obama Plan To Allow Old Health Insurance Policies
can he do that?
I mean legally?

Isn't this a descion for the Wa State Legistlature?

Is Commissioner Mike Kreidler above the law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


I am not totally sure on the legality, but I believe the healthcare law is Federal. So its out of the states hands.

Technically the Washington State rep doesn't have the authority to act outside the Fed law just as the president doesn't have the right. I believe that is what the above poster was saying.

All Fed law originate and are ammended through congress I believe.

So if Obama ever does get reprimanded for acting outside constitutional law then so would the state officials who deviated from the Fed Law without proper Authority. Could be a wipe out in government officials across multiple states if they act on what Obama is doing because it was found unlawful. Who in congress would folow that...could be playing with fire.

So as the above poster stated...Washington State officials are telling Obama...your decision to deviate from Fed Law is unlawful and I will not follow suit.

Please someone correct me if I am wrong because I really do not have a extensive background in constitutional law...

Just seeing from an average citizen point of view.
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To late for me to quote it with a link, States have the right to change what insurance companies can be exempt from if it will "in the states opinion" crash the states health insurance situation.
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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What a asshat
Someone kick him out
Washington is crazy liberal and full of bureaucrats with too much authority. They don't even lie about being socialist out here. They are cracking down hard on freedom out here
 Quoting: violentoppisition


Western Washington is. The eastern part is fairly conservative, although some Seattlites have infiltrated. Spokane also has Gonzaga University, which in addition to a national talent basketball team, is full of liberals.

Eastern WA should secede and form its own state. Use the Pacific Crest as a boundary due to water issues.
 Quoting: Hardwired


Jesuit Law School

'nuf said
TRUTH.. it's stranger than FICTION..

to be sure we are on the same "page" we must first be in the same BOOK

“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. The gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Matthew 7:13-14

Connect The Dots ... they will lead you to The Answer
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Re: Washington State Rebuts Obama Plan To Allow Old Health Insurance Policies
can he do that?
I mean legally?

Isn't this a descion for the Wa State Legistlature?

Is Commissioner Mike Kreidler above the law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


I am not totally sure on the legality, but I believe the healthcare law is Federal. So its out of the states hands.

Technically the Washington State rep doesn't have the authority to act outside the Fed law just as the president doesn't have the right. I believe that is what the above poster was saying.

All Fed law originate and are ammended through congress I believe.

So if Obama ever does get reprimanded for acting outside constitutional law then so would the state officials who deviated from the Fed Law without proper Authority. Could be a wipe out in government officials across multiple states if they act on what Obama is doing because it was found unlawful. Who in congress would folow that...could be playing with fire.

So as the above poster stated...Washington State officials are telling Obama...your decision to deviate from Fed Law is unlawful and I will not follow suit.

Please someone correct me if I am wrong because I really do not have a extensive background in constitutional law...

Just seeing from an average citizen point of view.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49354749


To late for me to quote it with a link, States have the right to change what insurance companies can be exempt from if it will "in the states opinion" crash the states health insurance situation.
 Quoting: Chrit


Thanks
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I have never seen this country as fucked up as it is now.

We have a bipolar running our country by the seat of his pants.

This is going to get worse. When people start calling their insurance companies to get back their old policies and are told..no way..all hell is going to break loose.

I give it till Monday of next week to explode.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445528


I agree. I'm 62 and have NEVER EVER see such FUCKAGE by the Federal Government... This calls for an Adjutant General of the Joint Chiefs to relieve us all from this FUCKAGE NOW.

Only the Adjutant General of the Joint Chiefs can remove a standing President for FUCKAGE.
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Is this the same as IMPEACHMENT proceedings?
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No, it would be a coup d'etat.
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What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


liberty
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


******

This is true, the law has been voted upon by Congress and enacted. The president can neither make laws nor repeal them.

The insurance commissioner in Washington state, despite being seemingly incapable of speaking in complete, coherent sentences, has responsibility for making sure insurance companies follow the law. And that is what he is doing.

Congress needs to repeal the law... that is what needs to happen.

Obama has no authority to "allow" insurance companies to do anything, or any other company either.

He is just talking like an emperor and nobody is calling him on it.

He needs to be taken down about 50 pegs and put in his rightful place, as holding the office of president, sharing power with the legislative and judicial branches of our government.

Congress needs to be trashed, the supreme court adjourned and the entire pile of fecal material, including the president, should be flushed.
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What a man, he decides whats best for me, not me, on my insurance matters.

Not sure how he stole that job, but he does pose a threat to
peoples lives.
 Quoting: Pony Up


You don't seem to understand .

Obama has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT to even offer this.
OBAMA CANNOT NEGATE VOTED ON LAW.


Washington State is just sticking to LAW.

Come on people....wake up! gaah


:liberty:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


******

This is true, the law has been voted upon by Congress and enacted. The president can neither make laws nor repeal them.

The insurance commissioner in Washington state, despite being seemingly incapable of speaking in complete, coherent sentences, has responsibility for making sure insurance companies follow the law. And that is what he is doing.

Congress needs to repeal the law... that is what needs to happen.

Obama has no authority to "allow" insurance companies to do anything, or any other company either.

He is just talking like an emperor and nobody is calling him on it.

He needs to be taken down about 50 pegs and put in his rightful place, as holding the office of president, sharing power with the legislative and judicial branches of our government.

Congress needs to be trashed, the supreme court adjourned and the entire pile of fecal material, including the president, should be flushed.
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Judge Roberts is a name I will never forget. On the hot list.
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I live in Washington... F-olympia and there damn taxes.. I am taxed to death by the uber liberals who are in bed with the labor unions.. I hate Washington taxes, a man is not free when the state takes half and the unions take the other





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