The Port Arthur Massacre Conspiracy; The Real Reason Behind Australian Gun Ban

Yes the shootings were special forces standard.
The weapon was a Car15
There was only one special force in the world at the time that has this as its principal weapon.
An Israeli one
and yes members of this unit were in Australia,'on holiday' at the time

a physical weakling with an IQ of 80 who had never discharged a firearm in his life killed 39 and wounded 26 with about 200 rounds.

not until anders brevik, a trained marksman , was this number drastically broken in a solo massacre.


the reason bryant killed so many was the law at the time, police could not fire on anyone who hadn't fired at them first. bryant knew this stupid law, which has now been changed, and not once did he fire towards police.


you don't need multiple shooters to kill the numbers these gunmen achieve, the weapons used are specifically built to kill multiple people between reloads.


had bryant been in any other state, he would have been shot by police before he killed so many.

it was easy , even for a mentally challenged weakling to pick an isolated area, full of unarmed people, and blast away.

brevik did the same.

australia was just lucky bryant was a retard, or he would have killed many more.

people who say it requires multiple shooters have no clue of the weapons type capability, a type which i'm glad are now not available to people like him in our country.

we now have zero multi fatality lone gunman shootings, bryant was the last.if there still was massacres after removing the types and mags they prefer, there would be an issue, but there is not. heavily restrict (not all are banned to eveyone, as the liars who bleat about it want their audience to believe,firearms are available to the australian public) that weapon type and there are no multi fatality shootings,zero , in an entire country , in 16 years now.

multi fatality massacres are these weapon types only purpose, wherever they proliferate, massacres occur. adam lanza killing those kids was a simple task for him, an nra member, and practiced marksman.

to suggest that some percentage of the type of person who is attracted to this weapon type isn't one day going to turn them on the people arond them is ludicrously ignorant.

i collected them myself as a teenager, sold them all to the government for profit in the buyback and don't miss them one bit. i still have a legal firearm for every purpose i need one for. if i was a nut high capacity mags for my semi autos, i could easily match the kill score of these lone gunman.

multiple gunman working together with them could get scores in the hundreds. suprise is all they need.

Brayant didn't do it!

All Australians should make themselves aware of the great work of Joe Vialls in investigating the greatest crime perpetrated against the Australian people in our history. Especially those Aussies that wish to spurt their mouths off regarding the port Arthur massacre.

Your post is full of bullshit.

The reason the gunman never fired upon police at port Arthur was because there was no police there. The only police available were sent to the other side of the peninsula 30 minutes drive from P.A. to investigate the only ever Tasmanian recorded drug Hoax. The Shooting started 4 minutes after these officers checked in by radio that they where at the scene of the drug hoax. The shooter at the cafe and bus stop had fled the scene 20 minutes after the shooting started. Again there was no police at port arthur during the shootings, they didn't arive their till hours later as most of the counterforce squads where sent to the seascape.

If we look at shootings that involve "Lone Nuts" that as you say "pick an isolated area, full of unarmed people, and blast away". We see stats like 60 shots fired, 4 dead and 30 injured, even when they use high powered semi automatic weaponry the same or similar to the P.A massacre. This has happened many times over, the fact is the general gun loving public just aren't that good at killing people in a short space of time, you have to be intensely trained. The killer at Port Arthur had 20 people dead and a further 12 injured in under half a minute, shooting only 29 bullets (that's one shot per second, one person dead every 1.5 seconds). 19 of the dead where head shots and all where shot from the gun held at the hip. This is unbelievable accuracy, to shoot moving targets that quickly and accurately is impossible for approximately 6 billion humans, Joe vialls estimates that less than 100 of the best combat marksmen the world over would be capable of killing with that efficiency. High powered semi auto rifles are dangerous, but only highly trained killers (the person) is capable of making the gun perform like it did at Port Arthur.

Anders brevik took more than an hour and a half to kill 70 and injure 110, the port Arthur killer took 30 seconds to kill and maim 30 people. Also more then 500 people escaped brevik unharmed on an island only 1km long and wide. Not many escaped with their lives from the broad arrow cafe.

If you rule out Port Arthur which was an obvious Psy-Op, many years went by without multi fatality massacres from high powered assault rifles when they where legal to own in Australia too. not all is what it seems.

"if i was a nut high capacity mags for my semi autos, i could easily match the kill score of these lone gunman"
I bet if you setup 20 "stationary" milo tins on and under and around a bunch of eating tables to equate to a "headshot". where you had to maneuver around walls and past tables and knocked over chairs, you have 30 seconds and 30 bullets, oh also try to hit 10 pillows (to signify torso injuries) within that time frame too, quick go shoot em. How did ya go? did you manage to get 5 tins and a few pillows in the time. What about if the tins and pillows where moving, what If they posed a threat to you and could disable you if you turned your back on them too long. How would you deal with 30 sonic booms in an enclosed space in 30 seconds. Would you be able to count 29 shots and leave one round in the barrel instinctively while you changed mags. Would you be able to disable a car with classic special forces three shot precision, ie a sighting shot, a shot to disable the driver and then a shot to disable the car, while the car is moving at pace?

Your dreaming if you think you could match the port Arthur killer, Your also dreaming if you think the killer was Martin Bryant.

well said mate

It didn't stop gun ownership initially it prevented mental people and criminals from owning guns.
Then of course it was extended via further shootings to totally ban certain guns and limit ownership of semi automatics to certain people.
It is actually very easy in Aus to get a collectors license so you can own AR15's and AK47's it takes around 3 years and you have to have a clean criminal and mental history and join a club and get references from other collectors as to your interest in collecting firearms.
Its harder but very possible Australia has no constitution giving them a right to bear arms and it is not even a republic but a self governing colony of the UK.

Im an Aussie in the US on business, I am unofficially prohibited from owning a firearm in Australia.
As 20 years ago when I was a young guy I had a spat with the police and ended up in the psych ward.
I was experimenting with drugs (speed ecstasy) and flipped out basically.
This was 20+ years ago im perfectly fine now but they still wont allow me to own a firearm from that one silly incident when I was a kid.
Which is stupid.

I have a shooters license in Australia and am allowed to shoot guns, I have all my life since I can remember, just not own them.
The way I get around this is just to give someone else like my boss/mate who is allowed to own guns, some money and he goes and buys the gun I want and keeps it at his house with the rest of his guns.
And when we go shooting I just shoot it like its my gun but I can't actually own it/keep it at my house.

I mean basically my boss/mate has a collectors license and owns an MP5 and AR15 which I have shot many times.

They can stop you owning them but not shooting them if you love shooting that is.

yes but they have to be made permanently inoperable. often being welded shut and parts taken away. almost all firearms are never made to function again once they have been put through this proses.

The real shooter, or one of them.

sit,roll over,beg,...good boy,now give me your guns.

outside of using club guns at shooting club, how can you shoot in Australia if you dont already own a gun?? regardless of how much money you give your friends those guns are under there name and there for belong to THEM.

Borrowing and loaning firearms

If you hold a firearm licence, you can borrow a firearm from a friend/relative provided:

you have their permission to do so
your Victorian licence allows you to carry and use that category and type of firearm.
If you hold a Victorian firearm licence, you can borrow the firearm of a Victorian or interstate licensed firearm dealer provided:

your licence is more than 28 days old
you already have at least one firearm registered to you
you have their permission to do so, and
your Victorian licence allows you to possess, carry and use that category and type of firearm.

Taken straight off VIC police website you need one firearm already registered to you!!!

btw sounds like your boss is braking the law buy owning a working AK47. does he have a Category D licence??

Category D firearms licence:
Self loading centrefire rifles, pump-action or self loading shotguns holding more than 5 rounds. Functional Category D firearms are restricted to government agencies and a few occupational shooters. Collectors may own deactivated Category D firearms.

No not true my boss has a collectors license he has fully operable semi automatic center fire rifles.
Who told you this nonsense?

Mate I said I didn't own them, they own them, but they allow me to use them as I choose.
Yes he has a cat D license ffs he is a professional shooter.

Im not "borrowing it", im shooting it with them while they are there.
Why would I want to go shooting by myself?

Official commercial or prescribed purposes can be anything.

A Category D Licence is held for:
professional hunting
another official, commercial or prescribed purpose (e.g. work as a firearms safety instructor) or for a purpose authorised by an Act or regulations.

[link to www.police.vic.gov.au]

more guns in country now than before buy back.

and large capacity semis and autos were about all that was banned .

All it did was open up a massive profit motive for illegal guns, they have found factories of Vietnamese manufacturing semi auto hand guns.
For every one they bust there is 5 more....

If you offer an Aussie Vietnamese machinist $50 an hour cash no questions to make guns, what do you think they are going to say No?
There has been many firearms manufacturing operations busted in Oz but you wont hear about them on the news from the leftist gun control cunts that's for sure.

I have plans on here for a sten gun, fully auto 9mm.
I am an electrician by trade not a machinist, but I tell you I could make this thing in year 8 tech school.
Then you will say ok how will you make ammo?
Cases easy, projectiles easy, anvil in primer easy.

How will you make the primary propellant without blowing yourself up?

Very easy, you make it as a formulated slurry when it goes into the primer wet its non reactive.
In an hour when it dries when the case is loaded its reactive.

My family settled in Tassie and Dad new the Bryant family. Funnily enough many, many years later I moved to SA and worked with Martins niece at a hotel in the Adelaide Hills. Im not going into details but I had many a conversation with her, and believe me, he did it. Don't give two fucks what anyone thinks.

Can you rebuild an Engine? A V8? Then you can make a gun.

fuck off. it was a rightwing douchebag who banned our guns in the first place.

Oh I know he did it, he was a fucking nutcase that just happened to know where some serious weapons were kept.

It wasn't the gun owners fault but the fault of the mental health system, the guy should have been in the puzzle factory not out on the street.

The cunt should be publicly executed for what he did.

There is a recent trend on social media for Aussies showing off their legal guns in pics.
The cops came out and said wtf are you retards doing if someone finds out where you live and comes and takes them they can kill many people before we can stop them.

Firearms community relies on trust, it takes years to gain their trust and they suss you out like you wouldn't know.
Many of them ex SAS.

I mean if you know where someone keeps even just a single action bolt action rifle, you can go there when they are at work and take it.
And go and kill 10 people before the cops even get there.

Now you turn the right wing left wing shit?
You seriously are fucked in the head huh?
Both sides want you to have nothing dickhead

New social media game, Eye spy a communist!
What makes you think I was referring to Vietnamese because they are communists dick brain?
I was referring to poor working skilled Aussies who will accept money for work.
Go suck a Green Marxist cock homo!

Every major gun control in history has been followed by genocide.

When the gun prohibitionists quote a statistic about how many people are killed by firearms misuse, the discussion sometimes bogs down into whose crime stats to believe and how to count crimes vs. the defensive firearm uses. Death by Gun Control works on a level that nobody can dispute: documented world history.

In the 20th Century:
◾Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.
◾Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.

How could governments kill so many people? The governments had the power - and the people, the victims, were unable to resist. The victims were unarmed.

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Perhaps Australia has already been allocated to the chinese in the upcoming world war ? Just part of the redistribution of wealth.

I guess what I was trying to say to people was this.
There can never be any actual gun control.
Because a team of 3-4 people with skills, can mass manufacture firearms and ammo and set the operation up in days.
In weeks producing thousands of guns and millions of rounds of ammo.
50 years ago this wouldnt have been possible it would have been slow, now with computers and plc robots you can set up all kinds of machinery to run without human intervention.