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RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tepco practiced the disaster drill for emergency of reactor4 pool fuel removal. They were stating the fuel won’t reach the critical state or affect the outside of the plant area. They are going to start the fuel removal of reactor4 pool from next week. The disaster drill was practiced from 10/25/2013. [link to www.tepco.co.jp] [link to fukushima-diary.com] Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The operators of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant have postponed the extremely complicated and difficult task of removing damaged atomic rods. New video footage from a robot has revealed new leaks within the damaged reactors meaning the rods now can’t be taken out as planned. One of the fuel assemblies was damaged as far back as 1982 when it was mishandled during a transfer and is bent out of shape. Kazuaki Matsui, the executive director of Japan’s Institute of Applied Energy said: “It’s very difficult to remove a spent rod because parts of the wall and the bottom of the reactor are all melted. We’ve never had to deal with this before so that adds to the complication.” [link to www.euronews.com] Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
Citizenperth User ID: 50040208 Australia 11/15/2013 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Citizenperth User ID: 50040208 Australia 11/15/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will sound unreasonably ridiculous to those not in the know.... but spot on.... on a budget.... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand Caldicott and Gundersen saying that but for most of us, that is not...feasible. And certainly not possible on short notice. Ever apply for a travel visa? lol Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46821329 Canada 11/15/2013 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The operators of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant have postponed the extremely complicated and difficult task of removing damaged atomic rods. Quoting: RadChick New video footage from a robot has revealed new leaks within the damaged reactors meaning the rods now can’t be taken out as planned. One of the fuel assemblies was damaged as far back as 1982 when it was mishandled during a transfer and is bent out of shape. Kazuaki Matsui, the executive director of Japan’s Institute of Applied Energy said: “It’s very difficult to remove a spent rod because parts of the wall and the bottom of the reactor are all melted. We’ve never had to deal with this before so that adds to the complication.” [link to www.euronews.com] What? Why did we not hear about this before? Arnie Gunderson was right in his recent vid. Now what????? There is no good news about this situation. Damned if they remove the rods and damned if they don't because the next EQ will finish us off. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46821329 Canada 11/15/2013 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They knew all along that there was damage to the fuel rods & impossible to remove them safely??? So all this talk about removing the rods is just a "show", theatrics to make them look like they are trying to fix the problem?? So now it seems we wait for the next EQ. End of game! |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The operators of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant have postponed the extremely complicated and difficult task of removing damaged atomic rods. Quoting: RadChick New video footage from a robot has revealed new leaks within the damaged reactors meaning the rods now can’t be taken out as planned. One of the fuel assemblies was damaged as far back as 1982 when it was mishandled during a transfer and is bent out of shape. Kazuaki Matsui, the executive director of Japan’s Institute of Applied Energy said: “It’s very difficult to remove a spent rod because parts of the wall and the bottom of the reactor are all melted. We’ve never had to deal with this before so that adds to the complication.” [link to www.euronews.com] What? Why did we not hear about this before? Arnie Gunderson was right in his recent vid. Now what????? There is no good news about this situation. Damned if they remove the rods and damned if they don't because the next EQ will finish us off. This was posted in Euronews 11/15, I have heard conflicting reports today saying both. Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
Citizenperth User ID: 50040208 Australia 11/15/2013 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Fuel Dispensers (the racks were put into), have warped and been damaged.. hence the fires...... 2. The cladding.. of the fuel rods (in the canisters), can no longer be confirmed due to 2.1 Salt water cooling 2.2 Fires 2.3 Warping/ Damage 3. Boron usage was minimalized by the Salt in the water 3.1 Age of the Rods themselves 3.2 Poor handling when inserted into a spent fuel pool. 4. Zirconium burn off: This was meant to decrease radioactive activity, and is now gone/ depleted. 4.1 If it is still somewhat available it is like a 'hail storm' with holes in your roof..... This was from a reliable but anonymous source. It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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CrazyMama73 User ID: 50042584 Canada 11/15/2013 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for this list. I have a lot of things on it, but some I don't and will be adding to it. I have already stopped buying a lot of our fruits and veggies from the West Coast of the US and Canada. I always try to buy local, or at least Canadian, then US, then North American. It isn't going to leave us any options now. |
Citizenperth User ID: 50040208 Australia 11/15/2013 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hate to say it but i will: 1. Water filtration unit: *Berkly, or Lifesafe straw 2. As many packets of crappy powdered drinks/ soups etc... 3. Something/ or means to start a fire 4. Knife difference is life and death... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 11/15/2013 11:19 PM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46821329 Canada 11/15/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hate to say it but i will: Quoting: Citizenperth 1. Water filtration unit: *Berkly, or Lifesafe straw 2. As many packets of crappy powdered drinks/ soups etc... 3. Something/ or means to start a fire 4. Knife difference is life and death... CP. ISON is an interesting side note, entertaining & thought provoking cosmically speaking, but it is Fuku that wears me down & keeps me awake at night. It's just that I do not have any good feeling about the outcome of FUKU. |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to NHK (11/15/2013), TEPCO will start removing the fuel assemblies from the Spent Fuel Pool of Reactor 4 at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant on Monday, November 18. TEPCO will start with unused (therefore not irradiated) new fuel assemblies (there are 202 of them in the pool). 22 new fuel assemblies will be the first to be moved UNDER WATER into the container (called "cask") in the cask pit, using the fuel handling machine. Then the sealed cask will be lifted out of the pool by the gantry crane onto the truck waiting on the ground, which will transport the cask to the Common Pool about 100 meters away. TEPCO has two casks to be used for transport. After removing 22 new fuel assemblies, then TEPCO will start removing the spent fuel assemblies. The removal is scheduled to continue until the end of next year, "ahead of schedule" as has been loudly demanded by the LDP politicians. [link to ex-skf.blogspot.ca] Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for this list. I have a lot of things on it, but some I don't and will be adding to it. I have already stopped buying a lot of our fruits and veggies from the West Coast of the US and Canada. I always try to buy local, or at least Canadian, then US, then North American. It isn't going to leave us any options now. Quoting: CrazyMama73 No problem, I worked on #10 all day... Makes this whole situation more tolerable, and fights rad damage to boot Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hate to say it but i will: Quoting: Citizenperth 1. Water filtration unit: *Berkly, or Lifesafe straw 2. As many packets of crappy powdered drinks/ soups etc... 3. Something/ or means to start a fire 4. Knife difference is life and death... CP. ISON is an interesting side note, entertaining & thought provoking cosmically speaking, but it is Fuku that wears me down & keeps me awake at night. It's just that I do not have any good feeling about the outcome of FUKU. Me either, it's 100% fail either way I just don't know why they don't put cement blocks around the building, fill it with sand, lead, boron, cement...and then do the same with 3, 2, 1 AND we still need to find the corium. Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46821329 Canada 11/15/2013 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hate to say it but i will: Quoting: Citizenperth 1. Water filtration unit: *Berkly, or Lifesafe straw 2. As many packets of crappy powdered drinks/ soups etc... 3. Something/ or means to start a fire 4. Knife difference is life and death... CP. ISON is an interesting side note, entertaining & thought provoking cosmically speaking, but it is Fuku that wears me down & keeps me awake at night. It's just that I do not have any good feeling about the outcome of FUKU. Me either, it's 100% fail either way I just don't know why they don't put cement blocks around the building, fill it with sand, lead, boron, cement...and then do the same with 3, 2, 1 AND we still need to find the corium. Since it worked in Chernoble, you would think logically they would do it in FUKU. What is noteworthy here is the distinct absence of any commentary from the International regulatory communities. Why is this, well imo the most glaring answer & I cringe on saying this, is that it is part of Agenda 21 program. I can not find another logical answer the complete silence & media blackout on the subject. BTW....thank you for all your hard work & continual updates. You and CP are 2 of my heros. Bless you both. |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/15/2013 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hate to say it but i will: Quoting: Citizenperth 1. Water filtration unit: *Berkly, or Lifesafe straw 2. As many packets of crappy powdered drinks/ soups etc... 3. Something/ or means to start a fire 4. Knife difference is life and death... CP. ISON is an interesting side note, entertaining & thought provoking cosmically speaking, but it is Fuku that wears me down & keeps me awake at night. It's just that I do not have any good feeling about the outcome of FUKU. Me either, it's 100% fail either way I just don't know why they don't put cement blocks around the building, fill it with sand, lead, boron, cement...and then do the same with 3, 2, 1 AND we still need to find the corium. Since it worked in Chernoble, you would think logically they would do it in FUKU. What is noteworthy here is the distinct absence of any commentary from the International regulatory communities. Why is this, well imo the most glaring answer & I cringe on saying this, is that it is part of Agenda 21 program. I can not find another logical answer the complete silence & media blackout on the subject. BTW....thank you for all your hard work & continual updates. You and CP are 2 of my heros. Bless you both. Wow, thanks, I don't know what else to do except talk about it. Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11544223 Philippines 11/15/2013 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hate to say it but i will: Quoting: Citizenperth 1. Water filtration unit: *Berkly, or Lifesafe straw 2. As many packets of crappy powdered drinks/ soups etc... 3. Something/ or means to start a fire 4. Knife difference is life and death... a spark igniter is great for preps and do not forget to get lots of spare flints fire forever with one of these |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11544223 Philippines 11/15/2013 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hate to say it but i will: Quoting: Citizenperth 1. Water filtration unit: *Berkly, or Lifesafe straw 2. As many packets of crappy powdered drinks/ soups etc... 3. Something/ or means to start a fire 4. Knife difference is life and death... CP. ISON is an interesting side note, entertaining & thought provoking cosmically speaking, but it is Fuku that wears me down & keeps me awake at night. It's just that I do not have any good feeling about the outcome of FUKU. Me either, it's 100% fail either way I just don't know why they don't put cement blocks around the building, fill it with sand, lead, boron, cement...and then do the same with 3, 2, 1 AND we still need to find the corium. Since it worked in Chernoble, you would think logically they would do it in FUKU. What is noteworthy here is the distinct absence of any commentary from the International regulatory communities. Why is this, well imo the most glaring answer & I cringe on saying this, is that it is part of Agenda 21 program. I can not find another logical answer the complete silence & media blackout on the subject. BTW....thank you for all your hard work & continual updates. You and CP are 2 of my heros. Bless you both. I think that the difference lies in the fact that Fuku is right on the coast and has massive groundwater infiltration that Chernobyl did not have. |
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Citizenperth User ID: 50040208 Australia 11/16/2013 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed :) It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Citizenperth User ID: 50050469 Australia 11/16/2013 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bit late but yes.... and sadly lead.... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29174145 United States 11/16/2013 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We can't change what has happened, or stop what is still happening. All we can do is try to make it through as best we can. If ingesting small amounts of borax and baking soda can actually help, then it's good to know. Also, using it to wash with would be good too I guess. Glad to read that coffee is a natural source of boron. |
RadChick (OP) User ID: 49683030 United States 11/16/2013 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We can't change what has happened, or stop what is still happening. All we can do is try to make it through as best we can. If ingesting small amounts of borax and baking soda can actually help, then it's good to know. Also, using it to wash with would be good too I guess. Glad to read that coffee is a natural source of boron. I've played around with baking soda and clay and all that stuff, couldn't stand the taste of any of them. What I DO like is apple cider vinegar, so I use that on salads with ground up garlic and spices (will remove particles and detox), and I make Kombucha and drink about 8-12 ozs every day (makes your blood alkaline). You can brew it at home in jars on your counter, and mix with berry tea, etc The Konbucha is like a miracle drink. But most people don't like the taste. I also do a shot of coconut oil couple times a week, my health was pretty bad for awhile but its slowly coming around, I really think we can mitigate alot of what has happened to us so far, and avoid the rest as much as possible. But again, no one knows, I worry sometimes, like when I saw the DOE reports in Alaskan fish, that we might be screwed no matter what. If PU is in everything and we just don't know it yet? Well. But it just makes sense to avoid it this time around, if we can. I really don't know, if we can or not. Or if it will make any difference. But what I do know is: I was outside the first 3 weeks after the accident because we were moving and selling everything off Craigslist in our yard, I know I was heavily exposed because of the metallic taste and I started havings symptoms 4.13.2011. Bad ones. I wonder if I had been inside then, if I would have all these problems now? Tests showed I had been exposed to Zirconium, which is what the rods are encased in. And I'm a few thousand miles from Japan. Michigan :/ I really can't imagine what is going to happen to people in Tokyo. Founder of Nuked Radio Thread: MAYDAY: The Wigner Effect ”To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ~Thomas Paine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50050970 India 11/16/2013 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if till today nothing happened even after 2 yrs, I trust them. They have studied every possible scenarios and I am 100% sure nothing will happen. Pls dont get distracted and waste your life thinking about what will not happen. Japan and TEPCO will always think about humans before they do anything atleast for the sake of their near and dear ones. |