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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50110955 India 11/17/2013 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen this going around, figured i'd share. Quoting: Southern Norseman "A boy of nine who was found hanged is believed to have killed himself after he was ‘bullied for being white’ by an Asian gang at school. Aaron Dugmore – thought to be one of the youngest children in the UK to commit suicide – was discovered in his bedroom after being tormented for months, his parents said. They said Aaron was threatened with a plastic knife by one Asian pupil, who warned him: ‘Next time it will be a real one.’ He was also allegedly told by another pupil that ‘all the white people should be dead’ and he was forced to hide from the bullies in the playground at lunchtime. Aaron’s mother, Kelly-Marie Dugmore, 30, and stepfather Paul Jones, 43, said that despite complaints to the school, nothing was done to stop the bullying." Article: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Bullying is one thing, but to see blatant racism going on in the UK and it being ignored it cannot be far behind from hitting here in the US. If this story was reversed and the kid was another race it would have been actually taken seriously. Between bullying, common core and inept schools more than ever our kids need home schooling. Don't get me wrong, bullying isn't the problem in most cases. Raising our kids to be wusses is the problem. Sadly threats and racism mixed in with the usual bullying of a child would be enough to mentally do someone in. man times change and fashions change |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50112687 Turkey 11/17/2013 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen this going around, figured i'd share. Quoting: Southern Norseman Don't get me wrong, bullying isn't the problem in most cases. Raising our kids to be wusses is the problem. Sadly threats and racism mixed in with the usual bullying of a child would be enough to mentally do someone in. it's good to be strong enough to deal with bullying. However being a "wuss" or un brave isn't to be despised. It might be a character trait. Even you say the victim isn't strong, the real guilty is bullies. |
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Invalid Username User ID: 49863548 United Kingdom 11/17/2013 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this story was reversed and the kid was another race it would have been actually taken seriously. Quoting: Southern Norseman No it wouldn't. The issue of bullying has never been adequately confronted and dealt with in British schools, regardless of the race. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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BRIEF User ID: 39607259 United States 11/17/2013 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He should have pulled the corners of his eyes back at them and said Chingaling Chingaling Chingaling chong and then make buck teeth at them. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Southern Norseman (OP) User ID: 33729921 United States 11/17/2013 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this story was reversed and the kid was another race it would have been actually taken seriously. Quoting: Southern Norseman No it wouldn't. The issue of bullying has never been adequately confronted and dealt with in British schools, regardless of the race. Sad to hear that. I figure the US' concern with bullying really has more to do with giving the school more power over ones children. I dunno, the whole mass media attention of bullying on this side of the Atlantic seems overdone. "Cattle die, kinsmen die; the self must also die. I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man." - Hávamál, st. 77 |
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Dried Up Hag User ID: 1443836 United States 11/17/2013 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9 year old? In my time there were bullies too. But I never heard anyone committing suicide because of it. Especially at such a young age. Quoting: Username 15675731 That's because "back in the day," kids were encouraged to defend themselves. It was expected. In most cases, it was considered to be the right thing to do. Nowadays, (and this has been going on for at least a couple of decades), kids are not allowed to defend themselves. They are punished as harshly as the bullies for it. Funnily enough, bullies aren't usually punished until the victim fights back..... Parents have had their authority stripped away with this as well. Some are successful in defending their children.....these are the ones who aware and take the time to get involved...these are also the ones who refuse to let anyone else have authority over their children besides themselves. Many parents just submit to schools and let them call the shots for their children..... In the meantime, the child is left to cope with this atrocious treatment with both hands tied behind his back and NO ADULT INTERVENTION..... |
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CigarTigher User ID: 22237122 United States 11/17/2013 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So sad :(. Poor baby. Evil exist in the world that we live in and I really don't understand people. I don't understand how someone can be racist and judge one another based on their skin color. Poor baby had to kill himself . He's was only 8. 8 years old ;(. |
Southern Norseman (OP) User ID: 33729921 United States 11/17/2013 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9 year old? In my time there were bullies too. But I never heard anyone committing suicide because of it. Especially at such a young age. Quoting: Username 15675731 That's because "back in the day," kids were encouraged to defend themselves. It was expected. In most cases, it was considered to be the right thing to do. Nowadays, (and this has been going on for at least a couple of decades), kids are not allowed to defend themselves. They are punished as harshly as the bullies for it. Funnily enough, bullies aren't usually punished until the victim fights back..... Parents have had their authority stripped away with this as well. Some are successful in defending their children.....these are the ones who aware and take the time to get involved...these are also the ones who refuse to let anyone else have authority over their children besides themselves. Many parents just submit to schools and let them call the shots for their children..... In the meantime, the child is left to cope with this atrocious treatment with both hands tied behind his back and NO ADULT INTERVENTION..... Spot on analysis! I remember a fight I got into in fifth grade, other kid started it and he was twice my size. Teacher didn't see shit till I hit him and dropped him like a sack of potatoes. Parents got called, principle was pissed, etc. I figured my dad was gonna beat my ass...because my parents actually believed in discipline...but instead my dad went off on everyone involved for treating me like I had done wrong for defending myself. That moment on, I saw my dad in a new light. THAT is how a father should be. If a kid doesn't get a parent like that, to defend and protect them or teach them to stand up for themselves, to truly empower their children and the school wont do anything that cases like this will become more common. "Cattle die, kinsmen die; the self must also die. I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man." - Hávamál, st. 77 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23318173 United States 11/17/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Parents fault. If some kid threatened my child with a weapon I'd be pounding on his parent's door within the hour. Fucking pussy ass parents dished that shit off on the school. They are responsible for their own child's suicide. It is their job to protect their kid. Not the school. |
Invalid Username User ID: 49863548 United Kingdom 11/17/2013 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Brit Perspective on 11/17/2013 09:40 AM The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6040062 United States 11/17/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So sad :(. Poor baby. Evil exist in the world that we live in and I really don't understand people. I don't understand how someone can be racist and judge one another based on their skin color. Quoting: CigarTigher Poor baby had to kill himself . He's was only 8. 8 years old ;(. As a blackman I never got that either, you have to be weak hearted or weak minded to hate someone base solely on race or religion. I am happy I got that much power over an racist I can beat them without doing anything they are weak. |
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Dried Up Hag User ID: 1443836 United States 11/17/2013 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9 year old? In my time there were bullies too. But I never heard anyone committing suicide because of it. Especially at such a young age. Quoting: Username 15675731 That's because "back in the day," kids were encouraged to defend themselves. It was expected. In most cases, it was considered to be the right thing to do. Nowadays, (and this has been going on for at least a couple of decades), kids are not allowed to defend themselves. They are punished as harshly as the bullies for it. Funnily enough, bullies aren't usually punished until the victim fights back..... Parents have had their authority stripped away with this as well. Some are successful in defending their children.....these are the ones who aware and take the time to get involved...these are also the ones who refuse to let anyone else have authority over their children besides themselves. Many parents just submit to schools and let them call the shots for their children..... In the meantime, the child is left to cope with this atrocious treatment with both hands tied behind his back and NO ADULT INTERVENTION..... Spot on analysis! I remember a fight I got into in fifth grade, other kid started it and he was twice my size. Teacher didn't see shit till I hit him and dropped him like a sack of potatoes. Parents got called, principle was pissed, etc. I figured my dad was gonna beat my ass...because my parents actually believed in discipline...but instead my dad went off on everyone involved for treating me like I had done wrong for defending myself. That moment on, I saw my dad in a new light. THAT is how a father should be. If a kid doesn't get a parent like that, to defend and protect them or teach them to stand up for themselves, to truly empower their children and the school wont do anything that cases like this will become more common. Kids didn't usually kill themselves because of bullying, because they had options.....and societal support of self defense. Once, when in 3rd or 4th grade, a bully was tormenting me for weeks at school. I was sick to my stomach every day. Finally, the bully made the mistake of actually shoving or smacking me - I can't remember. But I snapped and long story short, that kid never looked me in the eye again. Funny thing....the recess aides watched from the sidelines and when it was over the bully got escorted to the office by one of the aides and I was sat down on a bench to "cool off" with the other aide. The aide, (whose name and face I shall never forget), put her arm around me and said "well done!" Guess what....I didn't have any notions of suicide. BTW - I was bullied a LOT as a kid growing up. The other part of the problem is the teachers themselves. They do nothing to help, (generally), when a child is being bullied. Just read the article above. Numerous instances of this poor child's abuse were cited......why had no one - parents and teachers alike - stepped up on the child's behalf? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50112194 Ireland 11/17/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I call BS. What 9 year old know how to tie a noose? I smell foul play. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50114751 He obviously didn't: "He was taken to Birmingham Children’s Hospital where doctors desperately attempted to revive him but he died the following day from a suspected cardiac arrest." But hey let's blame anyone but the muslims eh? The same muslims who murdered a young American tourist the other week for "being in their area" in London! |
MisterHouston User ID: 12820979 United States 11/17/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Haven't seen this going around, figured i'd share. Quoting: Southern Norseman "A boy of nine who was found hanged is believed to have killed himself after he was ‘bullied for being white’ by an Asian gang at school. Aaron Dugmore – thought to be one of the youngest children in the UK to commit suicide – was discovered in his bedroom after being tormented for months, his parents said. They said Aaron was threatened with a plastic knife by one Asian pupil, who warned him: ‘Next time it will be a real one.’ He was also allegedly told by another pupil that ‘all the white people should be dead’ and he was forced to hide from the bullies in the playground at lunchtime. Aaron’s mother, Kelly-Marie Dugmore, 30, and stepfather Paul Jones, 43, said that despite complaints to the school, nothing was done to stop the bullying." Article: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Bullying is one thing, but to see blatant racism going on in the UK and it being ignored it cannot be far behind from hitting here in the US. If this story was reversed and the kid was another race it would have been actually taken seriously. Between bullying, common core and inept schools more than ever our kids need home schooling. Don't get me wrong, bullying isn't the problem in most cases. Raising our kids to be wusses is the problem. Sadly threats and racism mixed in with the usual bullying of a child would be enough to mentally do someone in. You hit it! Problem - raising kids to be wusses one to add, Problem - political correctness on steriods! - Texans are arrogant Texans; but you would be too if you were correct all the damn time! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12771257 United States 11/17/2013 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I call BS. What 9 year old know how to tie a noose? I smell foul play. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50114751 He obviously didn't: "He was taken to Birmingham Children’s Hospital where doctors desperately attempted to revive him but he died the following day from a suspected cardiac arrest." But hey let's blame anyone but the muslims eh? The same muslims who murdered a young American tourist the other week for "being in their area" in London! That's exactly why this is foul play. The stepfather probably killed the kid and then made a noose and hanged him. Read between the lines. |
Southern Norseman (OP) User ID: 33729921 United States 11/17/2013 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only issue in regards to race I have, is would the media treat this story differently if it was an asian/black student bullied by white kids in a white majority school? Moreover, would the school have dealt with it differently? "Cattle die, kinsmen die; the self must also die. I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man." - Hávamál, st. 77 |
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Southern Norseman (OP) User ID: 33729921 United States 11/17/2013 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I call BS. What 9 year old know how to tie a noose? I smell foul play. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50114751 He obviously didn't: "He was taken to Birmingham Children’s Hospital where doctors desperately attempted to revive him but he died the following day from a suspected cardiac arrest." But hey let's blame anyone but the muslims eh? The same muslims who murdered a young American tourist the other week for "being in their area" in London! That's exactly why this is foul play. The stepfather probably killed the kid and then made a noose and hanged him. Read between the lines. He died the following day in the hospital. While I don't know that I would have known about tying a noose at 9. If the kid knows how to use google, which I'd bet he did then he can figure it out. "Cattle die, kinsmen die; the self must also die. I know one thing which never dies: the reputation of each dead man." - Hávamál, st. 77 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50116072 United States 11/17/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I call BS. What 9 year old know how to tie a noose? I smell foul play. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50114751 He obviously didn't: "He was taken to Birmingham Children’s Hospital where doctors desperately attempted to revive him but he died the following day from a suspected cardiac arrest." But hey let's blame anyone but the muslims eh? The same muslims who murdered a young American tourist the other week for "being in their area" in London! That's exactly why this is foul play. The stepfather probably killed the kid and then made a noose and hanged him. Read between the lines. He died the following day in the hospital. While I don't know that I would have known about tying a noose at 9. If the kid knows how to use google, which I'd bet he did then he can figure it out. He was declared dead after midnight. His body wasn't found until 6pm, when attempts for resuscitation proved unsuccessful. He was dead when he was found. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50112194 Ireland 11/17/2013 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The death of this kid is on the child's parents, and the school. Quoting: Southern Norseman The only issue in regards to race I have, is would the media treat this story differently if it was an asian/black student bullied by white kids in a white majority school? Moreover, would the school have dealt with it differently? 1000% they would! The guilty white kids would probably have been taken by social services and put into homes to be re-trained or something! The Asian/black victim would be in the news for the next 20 years (as per Stephen Lawrence), his mother would be given a title and they would receive hundreds of thousands in compensation. |