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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50079096 United States 11/18/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Schools are turning into prisons.....WTF things have really changed since in 20 years.... Quoting: newsman1976 It looks like the days of trading half of your peanut butter and jelly sandwich for half of your best friend’s ham sandwich may soon be over if the federal government has anything to do with it. A Richmond, Virginia mother received the following note, telling her not to pack a lunch for her pre-school age child. Dear Parents, I have received word from Federal Programs Preschool pertaining to lunches from home. Parents are to be informed that students can only bring lunches from home if there is a medical condition requiring a specific diet, along with a physicians note to that regard. I am sorry for any inconvenience. If you have any questions concerning this matter, please contact Stephanie [redacted] the Health Coordinator for Federal Programs Preschool at [redacted]. [link to healthydebates.com] We have come such a long way its beautiful, heartwarming, exciting and like a nice breeze on a summer day it just feels so damn good. Twenty years ago if you stood on the corner of a street and held up a sign that said, "Big Brother is Watching YOU, they Want to Control YOUR LIFE", people would of shook their head and labeled you a loony, ....because that would never ever happen. HEHE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36577876 United States 11/18/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This case is another example of government bureaucrats arbitrarily deciding that they are more qualified to make health-related decisions than individuals, or parents of children in this case. Especially under this administration, there has been an increasingly authoritarian and paternalistic mentality on the part of power-thirsty public administrators - a mentality that contradicts one of the core values of the American national ethos: self-determination with minimal government intrusion into individuals' life choices. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37549739 United States 11/18/2013 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is one scary article and it is lyrically heartbreaking! A first class writer! Cannot parents simply tell those schools to fuck off? And tell the feds to fuck off too? There's nothing in the Constitution giving the federal government the right to tell us what to eat! What is wrong with people these days that they'll even consider obeying unconstitutional legislation that 'mandates' feeding garbage - literally, with USDA cast-offs - to their children? Nobody can legally force parents to comply with this crap. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50163003 Germany 11/18/2013 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This case is another example of government bureaucrats arbitrarily deciding that they are more qualified to make health-related decisions than individuals, or parents of children in this case. Especially under this administration, there has been an increasingly authoritarian and paternalistic mentality on the part of power-thirsty public administrators - a mentality that contradicts one of the core values of the American national ethos: self-determination with minimal government intrusion into individuals' life choices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36577876 It is because of security reasons. You could have packed your child a lunch-bomb for school. |
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Hardwired User ID: 49839943 United States 11/18/2013 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This case is another example of government bureaucrats arbitrarily deciding that they are more qualified to make health-related decisions than individuals, or parents of children in this case. Especially under this administration, there has been an increasingly authoritarian and paternalistic mentality on the part of power-thirsty public administrators - a mentality that contradicts one of the core values of the American national ethos: self-determination with minimal government intrusion into individuals' life choices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36577876 May all those bureaucrats die of rectal cancer during a morphine shortage. |
Hardwired User ID: 49839943 United States 11/18/2013 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our rights are going out the window....soon the children will be bossing us around.... Quoting: newsman1976 Glad I never had kids. The System weaponizes them against us. While I would have fun destroying some bureaucrap's life (ruining their marriage and credit wouldn't be hard) I have better ways to spend my time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49990764 United States 11/18/2013 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Homeschool people, or better yet, buy a one-way ticker --- OUT. While you can still do that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50168564 Homeschooling is on the rise. Ron Paul came out with curriculum for home-school. first few years are free too. [link to www.ronpaulcurriculum.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50009274 Spain 11/18/2013 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF!!! This guys I know who has a teenage kid went to check his kids gardes at school, the school said..nope sorry you cant check unless your kids gives you authority, the kid in underage writing is on the wall? families bye bye..kids belong to the state |
ajk User ID: 29024587 United States 11/18/2013 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our rights are going out the window....soon the children will be bossing us around.... Quoting: newsman1976 Glad I never had kids. The System weaponizes them against us. While I would have fun destroying some bureaucrap's life (ruining their marriage and credit wouldn't be hard) I have better ways to spend my time. the way the world is, I don't want any either......no way would I subject them to the bullshit coming.......hard enough to care for myself let alone them too amidst all this. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38786439 United States 11/18/2013 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like this is referring to programs like Headstart, not real schools [link to skeptics.stackexchange.com] Here is reasoning why: She said this is the norm for subsidized preschools in this area. This policy applies even to their non-subsidized "full fee" children. Private schools tend to be more flexible. There are a number of reasons for this policy at her school: • One is because they are a publicly subsidized program with mainly low-income families and they want to ensure that the children are receiving healthy meals that meet recognized federal nutritional guidelines. Parent supplied meals are often lacking in nutritional balance. (For example, in one field trip where parents did supply meals, one child's "meal" was 3 different bags of chips.) • Another reason is due to allergies. They have a protocol that they have to follow to prevent children from coming into contact with foods that they have an allergy to, and it's much harder to do this with meals brought from home as they have no way to verify ingredient lists or keep track of every child's meals. • Another is storage and preparation. They have little staff time or space to devote to meal storage and preparation, and keeping track of dozens of home-brought meals would cut into the time available for meal prep. • Finally, there are liability concerns. They have no way to assure the food safety for a home-brought meal, as they don't know how it was prepared or stored prior to arrival. Yet a parent may put blame on the school for improper storage if a meal is spoiled and sickens their child. This all sounds like a bunch of needless complexity and rules for something as simple as a home-packed bag lunch, but they are an understaffed non-profit on a razor-thin budget, subject to both city and state scrutiny for licensing (and funding). They also have the scrutiny of parents that have a propensity to put blame on the agency for the most trivial of concerns -- which leads to a licensing investigation that takes away valuable staff time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50167104 United States 11/18/2013 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's only for headstart. I live in Virginia and can confirm that this is not a cross the board Mandate. My son has been bringing his lunch to school for ten years and will continue to bring his lunch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48847655 No biggie then. I thought it applied all the way up to middle school. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50009274 Spain 11/18/2013 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is coming I think..I can feel it.. The governments will pass a mandate whereby it will be obligatory for families to hand over children to the state full patria potestad to the government for the benefit of the child of course..to ensure it is properly educated according to principals that are esteemed to be positive and convenient etc..add the wording you like visisting right will be considered |
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LunaLove User ID: 2787183 United States 11/18/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My son went to head start. The school is allotted money/food for every child. They hated when I packed his lunch. Too bad!! -------- You've fallen asleep in denial Look at the way we're dyin' How it ends I'll never know Just live your life blind like me--A7X |
LunaLove User ID: 2787183 United States 11/18/2013 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally some sanity. Nobody knows what parents are putting in their kid's lunches. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48348760 I suppose you think it's okay for a parent or guardian to give their kid junk for lunch? NO, it's not ok. That's called child abuse. Not every parent gives out junk for food. -------- You've fallen asleep in denial Look at the way we're dyin' How it ends I'll never know Just live your life blind like me--A7X |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50079096 United States 11/18/2013 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally some sanity. Nobody knows what parents are putting in their kid's lunches. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48348760 I suppose you think it's okay for a parent or guardian to give their kid junk for lunch? NO, it's not ok. That's called child abuse. Post like this leave me speechless. I do not know if its trolling or if perhaps they are drunk. I just can not describe the mindset that would utter such garbage. First you ask a question. We, I the readers of the thread you ask, "Do you think its ok for parents to give their kid junk for lunch?" I do not think there is a Parent that bothers to actually get up in the morning, possibly prepare breakfast and pack a lunch would intentionally pack "Junk". That makes it seem like you have some notion that there is high percentage of incompetent parents packing brown bags with "JUNK". I guess you think it is like 50-75%, a national epidemic of some sort. Yes the epidemic of obese children in not snacks, junk food, but a parent preparing lunch and putting it in a bag, consisting of a sandwich, a fruit and maybe chips. Holy Christ they might of even packed some left over spaghetti and vegetables from the dinner the night before. Yea your insane if you think parents fixing lunch with a brown bag for their children to eat what they fixed for themselves and the family is JUNK your a crazy bat. Or maybe its just you hate kids, and think all Parents are incompetent and need to be told what to do. You are so exhausted, stressed in your life.....jebus all these damn crazy Parents sending, preparing food for their children to eat is driving you crazy and it "HAS TO STOP". Instead of thinking you truly wrote that response with your mind reflecting some twisted sensibility of reality which I would rather believe is just a reflection of you being drunk or trolling or drunk trolling. Yea you just tried to think of some inane comment because you have so much self loathing you can not constructively contribute to anything in any fashion resembling human compassion or conversation. I however would rather think your just drunk because you talk "crazy talk" and a "troll" sometimes likes to be funny but you are neither funny or drunk. Your just bat ass crazy. You mention "child abuse". Your existence is abusing me. I want reparations. You owe me now, consider your self indebted to me. |