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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42056496 United States 11/20/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP thanks for this thread. i have been watching bitcoin but not very tech savvy, so put off by all the terminology. What do you suggest is the easy way for someone like me to get involved. What are the steps, and what are the risks. it seems very high right now, and swings a lot. Also if you need yo change it to cash how do you do that. How do you pay for things with it. On another note i like the idea that you think one day we will not need money. How do you see that working and when Thanks OP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46420515 Sweden 11/20/2013 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | question for OP : Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672 Why bit coin has a value if there is no bank with gold . what gives value for the bit coin ? The value is created in the head, just as it is with a federal reserve note, or gold. It's not like we have this giant need for gold in our daily lives, yet we value it so much. It's all in the head. Being backed up by something is not the key issue. The key issue is that the currency in use, should not be counterfeit-able. BTC, gold or honey, all serve the same purpose, when used as a exchange medium. |
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Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/20/2013 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for reminding me that many people worked for free Quoting: Lucian Ilea 50249400 I did that too 15 years for my country Romania and the world I have sent about 26000 emails in the world in 15 years since 1998 never got paid Well, i do remember the time we did call into BBS. Afterwards we did spend some time on compuserve. On the University we did use internet on the unix prompt. We were so excited to send over a photo in ascii text ! Well....until the system administrator found out it was a page of the playboy and we were locked out of the internet for some weeks.... I still remember the words. The internet is to propagate educational and sensitive information, not to fullfill Your desire to propagate your genepool. Afterwards we were so excited to be on the internet at a dazzling speed of 9.6K with our tornado modem, not to mention our phone bills to deal in on the modemrack of the University and to encrypt our activities to fight for our freedom to...well....our right to have our desire to propagate our genepool. D.mn it ! When we were on IRC we had a lot of respect for the one with the @. Well in those days, many people did work in a very idealistic way, from top to bottom. We could talk with people, just like that, who are now icons. We could simply mail George Lucas, Steve Jobs, Linus Torvalds, Phil Zimmermann,... and very often they did reply or did help with tricky stuff ! Some did debate openly on the newsgroups... Until the internet became common ground for all.... Yes I do have a huge mailbox as well. |
Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/20/2013 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well you are a full of shit! Quoting: Bear Drinker I know the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and you ain't him Jack! So ? Does this make my claim false ? I don't think so. If You think, You do known Satoshi Nakamoto. Then talk to Your contact what I do post on this thread, and maybe You would have a big surprise of the results. But honestly I really do not care if you do belief or not. I do give a d.mn shit for money and reward. I only want to spend some nice time here to share my experiences. You do known why ? I tell You. I am tired of people who do lack respect, who are living like sharks in the sea and who do spit their poison in the face of others, just....because they are what they are. As man I could not change the world, but my invention will do. I did start the movement to create Cryptocurrency, nobody else. |
Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/20/2013 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But on the other hand. My invention would never be possible without the work of Phil Zimmerman or so many others who did model the internet.... But I do consider PGP one of the most amazing things at that time. The thought to use hashes came from the signatures of PGP. And I do remember quite well my private debate of the shashasha..... :-D |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49984576 United States 11/20/2013 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any comment on basil 3 or 4, prosperity programs, st gernaine trust, Wanta, Durham trust, omega, nesara, or ebiz? The future of metals? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49984576 and rv. well some had to ask. these are all end the fed res actions....... no comment? |
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Lucian User ID: 50249400 Spain 11/20/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there are some experts in cryptography who say that bitcoin was made specifically to work against NWO that its crypto strength is so great that is designed to keep secrets of money from the governments of the world other people say that the algorithms are used by Japan to crack the military codes of China and attack them later is any truth in it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38423300 United States 11/20/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are cryptanalysis algorithms. These are being used to generate hashes that grow exponentially with each new hash that is generated. There will be no privacy in encrypted transmissions anymore once the last of these "crypto currencies" are released. Think critically. No one "knows" where stuxnet came from. It messed up air gapped systems at a nuclear facility. Causing damage and potential for grave danger to life. No one knows where this crypto currency came from. I don't believe that it comes from altruism. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49984576 United States 11/20/2013 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any comment on basil 3 or 4, prosperity programs, st gernaine trust, Wanta, Durham trust, omega, nesara, or ebiz? The future of metals? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49984576 and rv. well some had to ask. these are all end the fed res actions....... no comment? someone had to ask and I did twice, no comment and run |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49984576 United States 11/20/2013 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49984576 someone had to ask and I did twice, no comment and run I would and am going to run too, I ask questions I would not even dare to comment on |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46006478 United Kingdom 11/20/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does crypto die when we see the first BTC grave robbers? It will happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46006478 So you foresee people getting buried with their private keys and passphrases? I see people dying without passing their keys on. So yes people will take bitcoins to their graves. Those "Graves" will be robbed in the future. The original Satoshi Grave will be the first one robbed and all hell will break loose when it is. |
GFX guy User ID: 9776422 United States 11/20/2013 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does crypto die when we see the first BTC grave robbers? It will happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46006478 So you foresee people getting buried with their private keys and passphrases? I see people dying without passing their keys on. So yes people will take bitcoins to their graves. Those "Graves" will be robbed in the future. The original Satoshi Grave will be the first one robbed and all hell will break loose when it is. When the day comes that military grade cryptography can be hacked and broken... I think we'll have bigger problems to worry about. |
Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/21/2013 06:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there are some experts in cryptography who say that bitcoin was made specifically to work against NWO Quoting: Lucian 50249400 that its crypto strength is so great that is designed to keep secrets of money from the governments of the world other people say that the algorithms are used by Japan to crack the military codes of China and attack them later is any truth in it? Well. There was no single bad intention in regards of cryptocurrency except an honest way to trade. How can You trade honestly goods and services if: 1. Governments 2. Bankers. 3. Mafia Do print money behind Your back ? So we have all to agree, You can not play monopoly when someone keeps in his pocket another set of monopoly money ! As You can not play fair cards if someone keeps another deck in the pocket ! I saw, gold is good so far, but difficult to trade. If gold has not a number, You can steal it and trade it. With bitcoins You need to sign them before you trade with Your private key. There is a higher level of security. China. Why to attack China if China is the only country who does back up the USA in debt with their gold ? China has many ugly faces, but a lot of common sense too. Same can be told about Russia. Until today some of the best hackers (to hack means not to break-in, but to write code) You can find in Russia. I do remember how VMware did start those days, a man who did sit in the middle of a bunch of computers. I did talk to him too a lot and I did push them to baremetal implementations of VMware Workstation, You known as ESX. Maybe the only mistake I did made was to THINK the world is loyal. The gentlements agreement... I was naive, I was never rewarded for my input. Neither my input on my other levels, if I would say them all, You would say, You are bluffing. I can only state the facts. I do hope one day, we can make science, innovation, technology, trade, commerce in such way we do respect each other for the input and we do work all together as a big family. This can not happen if the world is competitive without limitation. it is good to have competition, but it needs borders. Governments. I proceed in next post about that one. |
Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/21/2013 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | satoshi, if it is really you, thank you so much for your gift to the world! you are one of the true heroes of history! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4292392 We should thank in general all those amazing people who did contribute to the opensource community in general, including the early pirates (with good intentions) of the internet. There is much involved about freedom. 1) Privacy. 2) Your right to have information 3) Right of education or cultural development. I give You more explanation. In a commercial world, if you have no money at all, because You are poor or a student, whatever, You can not run some kind of software or listen to music in a legal way. I do agree, people who do write software and music should be rewarded so they can live. But in my view, everything we do create is for humanity in general. For humanity in general, the difference between poor and rich is not an advantage. the advantage is only for the one who is rich. And the rich does exploit the poor. So the gain of the rich becomes from the poor. Simple like that. This concept is not sustainable in a world of scientific and technological progress. Look to Fukushima, right now, the world should cooperate as a team to stop that ongoing nuclear polution ! This can not be done in a commercial world where budgets do create limits of action. The governments do have the responsability to level poor and rich and to maintain idealism for the sake of their people. And they need to be free of the slavery of the fiat currency. So now I do come to the governments. Look to the western countries how they are subject to the financial markets ! They do bow and lick the asses of the bankers to pay their debt. Well, I suggest they do meditate. And they join the cryptocurrency network. To free themself from the slavery of the bankers. The past is the past. Governments need to guide their people to prosperity and to a better future, no matter what social economic system is in place. It is time they take their responsability, but they can only do that to free themself from the corrupted fiat money. NWO. I do not belief in a society where the government does controls all things. But I do not belief in a society without a government because some people still belief you have to make advantage of another. See it this way. If You gamble on the stockmarket and You did gain huge profit, be sure, you did direct a lot of companies to failure. You can not have profit without the loss of another ! So, what is honorable ? |
Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/21/2013 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey don't go. Tell us more. How do you feel about bitcoin now. What are you working on now. What occupies your time. What worries you about bitcoin. How or what needs to happen so you vision comes to be Thank you First of all, I did state I was the originator of cryptocurrency, bitcoin is only a flavor. What occupies my time ? I try to survive. Mozart did die poor, and I see I am not unique. Tesla ? The list go on. It takes a lot of time and effort to do innovation. Once You find something nice, there is no one to come back to you and thank You. No. After the inventor, the wolves, the sharks do step in and gain their profit. Sometimes I do wonder, why I do not stop to create innovation. Then I see the poor people in India, China, Afrika.... Then I do known why. |
Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/21/2013 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's open-source, anyone can view, and edit, and make derivatives of, the bitcoin code. over 50% of the current code hasn't even been written by satoshi. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4292392 That's true. Credit goes to all those who did contribute. But this story proofs when people do work together they can create amazing things. That is my message. |
Father of Cryptocurrency (OP) User ID: 41993714 Belgium 11/21/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bit coin, litecoin, ubersuperduper coin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38423300 They are cryptanalysis algorithms. These are being used to generate hashes that grow exponentially with each new hash that is generated. There will be no privacy in encrypted transmissions anymore once the last of these "crypto currencies" are released. Think critically. No one "knows" where stuxnet came from. It messed up air gapped systems at a nuclear facility. Causing damage and potential for grave danger to life. No one knows where this crypto currency came from. I don't believe that it comes from altruism. May God be my witness. It came from altruism. If I would patent the idea, it would never be accepted by the geeks who did contribute to the work as very enthousiastic people. I do belief one day, the world will run in such way. As a huge opensource community, working all together for the best of everyone, and we will take as reward, the respect of others, because everything else will be served by prosperity of the social economic system. I do belief in a world where happiness and motivation can arise from creation, innovation and participation, not driven by greed but by the pleasure to do it. |