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^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!

 
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^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
national geo have a new show on ISON
and it claims its mass is the size of a city!!
whooooah rock city!!
but that is not the biggest update...

Gareth Williams is an astronomer
and he works at the Minor Planet Center
where he presents his findings on orbits for objects hear there and everywhere
he began watching ISON in December 2011
a full year before its discovery!!

this is because it is Gareth Williams job to observe UNUSUAL orbit, mainly in planets
but also comets and other visitors
he solves orbits of objects

and as he states in a interview at the minor planet center
its his job to solve ISONS orbit
hears his webpage

[link to www.cfa.harvard.edu (secure)]

in this interview he says that some orbit caculatoins end with ISON hitting earth.
he claims to rest his theory on ISON passing 65 million km from earth
based on the fact its been registered as a discovery on a database he doesnt name, and has been observed twice before!!!

realy intresting!!

whats more intresting is this gives him an orbit period of 34,556,137 years.
and this orbit has been in the database for Minor Planet Center since 2012!!!
so why why was this object ever viewed as hyperbolic?
its had an orbit model for more than a year....
and its not the one we are being shown!!!

lots of dis info on so many levels

watch ISON: comet of the century nat geo

[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]

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[link to entertainment.inquirer.net]
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Williams also said that ISON could Infact be a giant strawberry.
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Williams also said that ISON could Infact be a giant strawberry.
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lmao no he didn't
he said its a comet
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
Did he mentioned when it could hit earth? Obviously no one knows for sure, it seems, what ISON is really going to do...but a rough estimate would be nice...just in case hiding
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
how many months now? 5? i am waiting 5 months or maybe more to this stupid ISON to hit.... nothing happens, i am bored of it... hit or get the fuck away.
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wow
what orbit model are they useing?

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I thought he was suicided.
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I thought he was suicided.
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interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th...

Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'...

Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name?

other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON...

Thanks

sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family.
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I already saved earth

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How?
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
the comet you have to worry about is USON, not ISON
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
I thought he was suicided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49674466


interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th...

Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'...

Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name?

other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON...

Thanks

sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


ok
please show evidence its the same person?

Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys

if you read my post you will see a link above
its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center
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I thought he was suicided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49674466


interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th...

Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'...

Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name?

other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON...

Thanks

sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


[link to m.space.com]

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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
I thought he was suicided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49674466


interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th...

Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'...

Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name?

other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON...

Thanks

sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


ok
please show evidence its the same person?

Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys

if you read my post you will see a link above
its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


Interesting indeed... spock
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
I thought he was suicided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49674466


interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th...

Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'...

Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name?

other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON...

Thanks

sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


ok
please show evidence its the same person?

Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys

if you read my post you will see a link above
its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


got a little excited, OP, you posted this twice...

unless gareth is a REALLY common name associated with williams, then you should give a little room.

I did take a look at your link, I scanned it, there is alot of reading to do/research to do if one is seriously goingto weed through these posts and others on the internet...

you google gareth williams...you don't get the astronomer!

my bad
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PROFESSIONAL SCIENCE!
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huh?
what do you mean give a little room?

this guy is exactly who i say he is.....
the guy your talking about was a spy working for MI6...

hears some orbit models....
intresting he doesnt diagnose it as hyperbolic even in 2012

[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]


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Thanks for bringing this up. thumbs
Time to depart this earthly vehicle...
:Comet Lovejoy:
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
more people need to hop on this thread!!

if theres a chance ison will hit us
we should know!!

all info should be avalible and open

this thread PROVES its not!!

more questions than answers and newthor deserve a credit for keeping my eyes open and not aloweing me to accept the disinfo thats pasted on these boards!!

ISON is comeing, and the top guys dont know what will happen....
let alone astro and his kronies
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ahhh
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
Also

this was published 24/09/2012
just three days after its discovery!
thats alot of work boys!! solveing the orbit in three days!!

[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]

oh wait no look....
near the bottom of the page
orbital elements

54 observations between 28/12/2011- 23/09/2012
wow
wait
thats a whole year before 'discovery' according to just about every sourcr
but hey, wiki

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

orbit period- 34556137
Epoc - 14/12/2013

this info is NOT the same as Nasas
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
Anybody wana cast an eye over these and tell me......

[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]

[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]

how close is ISON due to come to earth and when?
do any info in the links indicate mass?
how close will ison be to the sun?

sorry haha
long day at work + links = fuzzy head
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
The Nat Geo show, says twice that the last time Ison was here was at "the dawn of mankind"
I thought that was an odd thing to say.


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I already saved earth

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I thought he was suicided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49674466


interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th...

Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'...

Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name?

other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON...

Thanks

sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


ok
please show evidence its the same person?

Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys

if you read my post you will see a link above
its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


got a little excited, OP, you posted this twice...

unless gareth is a REALLY common name associated with williams, then you should give a little room.

I did take a look at your link, I scanned it, there is alot of reading to do/research to do if one is seriously goingto weed through these posts and others on the internet...

you google gareth williams...you don't get the astronomer!

my bad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


I grew up in Wales, UK and Gareth Williams is a very popular Welsh name. I can think of three I know.
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
The Nat Geo show, says twice that the last time Ison was here was at "the dawn of mankind"
I thought that was an odd thing to say.


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nah it didn't
it said ISON is a remnant of the creation of the universe
contaning matter present at the start of the universe
it claims it started its journey to our solar system at the dawn of mab.
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
OP there is no interview in any of the links you gave...and i can't even pull anything up on a google search of this person. where is this so-called interview?
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Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!!
so astroshill was wrong again!

national geo have a new doc on ISON
and it claims its mass is the size of a city!!
but that is not the biggest update...

Gareth presents his findings on ISON in a interview at the minor planet center
first informing its his job to solve ISONS orbit
hears his webpage

[link to www.cfa.harvard.edu (secure)]

in this interview he says that some orbit caculatoins end with ISON hitting earth.
he claims to rest his theory on ISON passing 65 million km from earth
based on the fact its been registered as a discovery on a database he doesnt name, and has been observed twice before!!!


realy intresting!!

whats more intresting is this gives him an orbit period of 34,556,137 years.
and this orbit has been in the database for Minor Planet Center since 2012!!!
so why was this object deemed hyperbolic?
its had an orbit model for more than a year....
and its not the one we are being shown!!!

lots of dis info on so many levels

watch ISON: comet of the century nat geo

[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]
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...


interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th...

Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'...

Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name?

other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON...

Thanks

sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


ok
please show evidence its the same person?

Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys

if you read my post you will see a link above
its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


got a little excited, OP, you posted this twice...

unless gareth is a REALLY common name associated with williams, then you should give a little room.

I did take a look at your link, I scanned it, there is alot of reading to do/research to do if one is seriously goingto weed through these posts and others on the internet...

you google gareth williams...you don't get the astronomer!

my bad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573


I grew up in Wales, UK and Gareth Williams is a very popular Welsh name. I can think of three I know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39937846




do you mean the gareth williams working at MPC?
the guy tracking ISONs orbit?
the spy who suicided?
or some welsh guy?





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