^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28238901 United Kingdom 11/26/2013 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! Did he mentioned when it could hit earth? Obviously no one knows for sure, it seems, what ISON is really going to do...but a rough estimate would be nice...just in case |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33891573 United States 11/26/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th... Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'... Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name? other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON... Thanks sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family. |
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Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 50648103 New Zealand 11/26/2013 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th... Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'... Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name? other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON... Thanks sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family. ok please show evidence its the same person? Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys if you read my post you will see a link above its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center |
Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 50648103 New Zealand 11/26/2013 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th... Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'... Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name? other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON... Thanks sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family. [link to m.space.com] Last Edited by Shadow Beam on 11/27/2013 12:09 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 996383 Australia 11/26/2013 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th... Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'... Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name? other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON... Thanks sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family. ok please show evidence its the same person? Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys if you read my post you will see a link above its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center Interesting indeed... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33891573 United States 11/27/2013 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th... Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'... Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name? other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON... Thanks sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family. ok please show evidence its the same person? Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys if you read my post you will see a link above its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center got a little excited, OP, you posted this twice... unless gareth is a REALLY common name associated with williams, then you should give a little room. I did take a look at your link, I scanned it, there is alot of reading to do/research to do if one is seriously goingto weed through these posts and others on the internet... you google gareth williams...you don't get the astronomer! my bad |
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Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 25270191 New Zealand 11/27/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! huh? what do you mean give a little room? this guy is exactly who i say he is..... the guy your talking about was a spy working for MI6... hears some orbit models.... intresting he doesnt diagnose it as hyperbolic even in 2012 [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] |
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Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 50651223 New Zealand 11/27/2013 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! more people need to hop on this thread!! if theres a chance ison will hit us we should know!! all info should be avalible and open this thread PROVES its not!! more questions than answers and newthor deserve a credit for keeping my eyes open and not aloweing me to accept the disinfo thats pasted on these boards!! ISON is comeing, and the top guys dont know what will happen.... let alone astro and his kronies |
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Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 50651223 New Zealand 11/27/2013 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! Also this was published 24/09/2012 just three days after its discovery! thats alot of work boys!! solveing the orbit in three days!! [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] oh wait no look.... near the bottom of the page orbital elements 54 observations between 28/12/2011- 23/09/2012 wow wait thats a whole year before 'discovery' according to just about every sourcr but hey, wiki [link to en.m.wikipedia.org] orbit period- 34556137 Epoc - 14/12/2013 this info is NOT the same as Nasas |
Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 50651223 New Zealand 11/27/2013 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! Anybody wana cast an eye over these and tell me...... [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] how close is ISON due to come to earth and when? do any info in the links indicate mass? how close will ison be to the sun? sorry haha long day at work + links = fuzzy head |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50633342 Australia 11/27/2013 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! The Nat Geo show, says twice that the last time Ison was here was at "the dawn of mankind" I thought that was an odd thing to say. Available for download on certain sites that pirates may use |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39937846 United Kingdom 11/27/2013 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th... Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'... Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name? other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON... Thanks sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family. ok please show evidence its the same person? Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys if you read my post you will see a link above its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center got a little excited, OP, you posted this twice... unless gareth is a REALLY common name associated with williams, then you should give a little room. I did take a look at your link, I scanned it, there is alot of reading to do/research to do if one is seriously goingto weed through these posts and others on the internet... you google gareth williams...you don't get the astronomer! my bad I grew up in Wales, UK and Gareth Williams is a very popular Welsh name. I can think of three I know. |
Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 50651223 New Zealand 11/27/2013 04:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! The Nat Geo show, says twice that the last time Ison was here was at "the dawn of mankind" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50633342 I thought that was an odd thing to say. Available for download on certain sites that pirates may use nah it didn't it said ISON is a remnant of the creation of the universe contaning matter present at the start of the universe it claims it started its journey to our solar system at the dawn of mab. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10955149 United States 11/27/2013 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! OP there is no interview in any of the links you gave...and i can't even pull anything up on a google search of this person. where is this so-called interview? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50656034 United Kingdom 11/27/2013 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! so astroshill was wrong again! national geo have a new doc on ISON Quoting: Shadow Beam and it claims its mass is the size of a city!! but that is not the biggest update... Gareth presents his findings on ISON in a interview at the minor planet center first informing its his job to solve ISONS orbit hears his webpage [link to www.cfa.harvard.edu (secure)] in this interview he says that some orbit caculatoins end with ISON hitting earth. he claims to rest his theory on ISON passing 65 million km from earth based on the fact its been registered as a discovery on a database he doesnt name, and has been observed twice before!!! realy intresting!! whats more intresting is this gives him an orbit period of 34,556,137 years. and this orbit has been in the database for Minor Planet Center since 2012!!! so why was this object deemed hyperbolic? its had an orbit model for more than a year.... and its not the one we are being shown!!! lots of dis info on so many levels watch ISON: comet of the century nat geo [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] |
Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 50651223 New Zealand 11/27/2013 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ^URGENT^ Gareth Williams Solves ISONs Orbit: ISON is not hyperbolic (2012- 34,556,137 year orbit) some Orbits show ISON might hit Earth!!! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33891573 interesting OP mentions this name as it would appear this young man has been gone since 2010, Aug 16th... Yet, scottland yard came out on the 13th of Nov. this year with findings of 'acciedntal death'... Could it be that OP simply wanted to remind us of this person...so used his name? other wise, I ask OP to supply referrences to how Gareth ties into ISON... Thanks sidenote...is a sad story all the same, my condolences to the family. ok please show evidence its the same person? Gareth Willams works for minor planet center, and it his job to solve ISONS orbit and trajectorys if you read my post you will see a link above its intresting this guy works for the MINOR PLANET center got a little excited, OP, you posted this twice... unless gareth is a REALLY common name associated with williams, then you should give a little room. I did take a look at your link, I scanned it, there is alot of reading to do/research to do if one is seriously goingto weed through these posts and others on the internet... you google gareth williams...you don't get the astronomer! my bad I grew up in Wales, UK and Gareth Williams is a very popular Welsh name. I can think of three I know. do you mean the gareth williams working at MPC? the guy tracking ISONs orbit? the spy who suicided? or some welsh guy? |