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Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels

 
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if you get a 1599 Geneva Bible (the one w all the cool notes) you will see that it says Godly men mated w Godless women, and that created the giants/heros of old...

Walter Veith has a good vid on the many changes to most modern bibles and the agenda behind it:


Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49889043


You have hit the nail on the head. Angels do not have sex and mate with humans. It was the sons of God (Godly people) and the daughters of men (carnal people).
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That happens every day to this day, yet fails to produce either giantism or hexadactyly (six digits).
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No. The book of Enoch is not Holy Ghost inspired. It is heresy.

It is merely text, with a little bit of tRuth. The book of Jude mentioning Enoch doesn't even allude to this text being correct.

The book of Enoch says that the angels of God taught him astrology. God in thebBible forbids it.

The book of Enoch says that there's three places for souls to go after death, while the Bible clearly states that the soul is merely in slumber until the day of judgment.

These are but a few clashes which this book has. Yeah, the fallen angel story attracts you, but oh where does the rest of the road lead??? If the Holy Ghost Himself won't confirm that books authenticity, then leave it be. You have been warned.
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OMG

You have been warned??? You sound like the typical BRAIN WASHED christian that I use to be. I guarantee you if you would open up your brain a little and HONESTLY seek the holy spirit on these matters possibly the holy spirit will start speaking to you in truth.


Have you ever even tried a Greek concordance and noticed that there are multiple word choices for each word in the Bible. Have you ever considered that the people who canonized the Bible may not have been inspired and if the truth were known you would understand and know that they were actually the enemies of Christ.

I challenge you to do a word study on the word "Scribe" in the bible and consider why Yahoshuah spoke so much about the scribes. and as you go through every passage that is talking about the Pharisees and the Scribes ask yourself why he included the Scribes.???? think about it....

Why does the Bible say that "The whole world" will be deceived in the last days so much so that even the elect would have been deceived. This includes pretty much ALL Christians, YOU are being deceived.

Do yourself a favor and step back from the same old, deceiving doctrines you have had pounded into your brain and let the Holy Spirit tell you the truth of the matter.

In Christ I pray for the Christians of today that they will lose the arrogant spirit of self righteousness and start understanding the true world we live in..

Peace be with you.

Come Yahoshuah, come quickly.
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applause2

This is the best post I have seen in a long, long time.

Remember though, the hearing ear and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made them both. Therefore your words fall mostly on the deaf and the blind, but the Apocalypse is coming soon! I'm sure you know the true meaning of 'apocalypse' seeing that you are a fellow concordance researcher.

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OP the Jews didn't compile the Books of the Bible the Romans did.

By saying that the Book of Enoch was "Left Out" what you are doing is saying that your God is fallible.

Are you saying that your God is fallible and that your religion has been in error since the beginning?
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OP you are full of shit. The only people who were in Israel before Israel were the Canaanites. The Hebrews moved into their Homes. Your bible even states this.

There were no Hybrids or Giants, all New Age Bullshit.
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To those saying angels don't have sex.

We as human physical beings must be translated into spiritual beings to be present in Heaven.

Likewise angels, being spiritual beings of the Heavenly realm, have to be translated to exist in the physical realm.

In their natural estate (spiritual) they don't have sex.

Translated to the physical they would be capable.

This is speculation of course.
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OP you are full of shit. The only people who were in Israel before Israel were the Canaanites. The Hebrews moved into their Homes. Your bible even states this.

There were no Hybrids or Giants, all New Age Bullshit.
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The Bible states there were giants.

Goliath ring a bell?

Not only that but it also states they were the product of the "Sons of God and the daughters of men".

It's in there.

Promise.

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No. The book of Enoch is not Holy Ghost inspired. It is heresy.

It is merely text, with a little bit of tRuth. The book of Jude mentioning Enoch doesn't even allude to this text being correct.

The book of Enoch says that the angels of God taught him astrology. God in thebBible forbids it.

The book of Enoch says that there's three places for souls to go after death, while the Bible clearly states that the soul is merely in slumber until the day of judgment.

These are but a few clashes which this book has. Yeah, the fallen angel story attracts you, but oh where does the rest of the road lead??? If the Holy Ghost Himself won't confirm that books authenticity, then leave it be. You have been warned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10087290


OMG

You have been warned??? You sound like the typical BRAIN WASHED christian that I use to be. I guarantee you if you would open up your brain a little and HONESTLY seek the holy spirit on these matters possibly the holy spirit will start speaking to you in truth.


Have you ever even tried a Greek concordance and noticed that there are multiple word choices for each word in the Bible. Have you ever considered that the people who canonized the Bible may not have been inspired and if the truth were known you would understand and know that they were actually the enemies of Christ.

I challenge you to do a word study on the word "Scribe" in the bible and consider why Yahoshuah spoke so much about the scribes. and as you go through every passage that is talking about the Pharisees and the Scribes ask yourself why he included the Scribes.???? think about it....

Why does the Bible say that "The whole world" will be deceived in the last days so much so that even the elect would have been deceived. This includes pretty much ALL Christians, YOU are being deceived.

Do yourself a favor and step back from the same old, deceiving doctrines you have had pounded into your brain and let the Holy Spirit tell you the truth of the matter.

In Christ I pray for the Christians of today that they will lose the arrogant spirit of self righteousness and start understanding the true world we live in..

Peace be with you.

Come Yahoshuah, come quickly.
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VERY WELL SAID! Blessings!
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OP you are full of shit. The only people who were in Israel before Israel were the Canaanites. The Hebrews moved into their Homes. Your bible even states this.

There were no Hybrids or Giants, all New Age Bullshit.
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The Bible states there were giants.

Goliath ring a bell?
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Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Yep its pretty clear about it.
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Jesus insinuated that angels can't procreate in the New Testament when he said ....humans will be as angels in heaven and not married

the sepent seed doctrine explains who the daughters of men are and why when the sons of God slept with them it produced giants

Adam himself was called a son of God

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Why the obsession with this book?

Is it the forbidden fruit that allures you?

If it is rejected as false, then it must be right?

Or do you just like to stir the pot?
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Why the obsession with this book?

Is it the forbidden fruit that allures you?

If it is rejected as false, then it must be right?

Or do you just like to stir the pot?
 Quoting: NightWisp


The same church that "rejected it as false" also rejects the immaculate conception of Christ in favor of Mary and the teaching of Christ for that of the Pope.

Just sayin.

ETA: I don't feel obsessed by it, I feel it supplies information that is somewhat important but not essential to those of faith. It's illuminating yes. Crucial? No.

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Why the obsession with this book?

Is it the forbidden fruit that allures you?

If it is rejected as false, then it must be right?

Or do you just like to stir the pot?
 Quoting: NightWisp


The same church that "rejected it as false" also rejects the immaculate conception of Christ in favor of Mary and the teaching of Christ for that of the Pope.

Just sayin.

ETA: I don't feel obsessed by it, I feel it supplies information that is somewhat important but not essential to those of faith. It's illuminating yes. Crucial? No.
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It is interesting to see this thread today, seeing as how I ordered the 'Complete Books of Enoch' by Dr. A. Nyland a couple of months ago, I only read a small portion of it then and hadn't looked at it since then only to find myself drawn to it earlier today, then what do you know, here is this thread.
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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
if you get a 1599 Geneva Bible (the one w all the cool notes) you will see that it says Godly men mated w Godless women, and that created the giants/heros of old...

Walter Veith has a good vid on the many changes to most modern bibles and the agenda behind it:


Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49889043


You have hit the nail on the head. Angels do not have sex and mate with humans. It was the sons of God (Godly people) and the daughters of men (carnal people).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641


How does a godly man and an ungodly woman procreate and create demi-gods like Hercules?

Keep lying to yourself.
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SPREAD THE WORD!

Why Was the Book of Enoch Rejected from the Bible?

We have seen how the Biblical book of Enoch tells us that evolution happened by means of fallen angels, or aliens, who bred with animals, and of how other ancient Christian texts tell the same story.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 50614546


Exactly where in the book of enoch is this stated?

Some may ask, if Enoch was such a great book, then why isn't it in the Bible today? There must be a reason why the churches ultimately rejected it, right?

Actually, Enoch still is in the Bible. The Ethiopian Christians still hold Enoch sacred. This is a crucial point, because Ethiopian Christianity traces its roots to apostolic times, and it was relatively free from the pagan influences which adulterated Christian tradition within the Roman Empire. Since Ethiopia was never part of the Roman Empire, Constantine’s mixing of pagan sun worship with Christianity never had an impact on the development of the faith. Therefore, Ethiopian Christianity is more trustworthy than Roman Christianity. Ethiopia accepts Enoch, so Christians outside Ethiopia should accept Enoch too.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 50614546


Neither Roman nor Ethiopian Christianity accepts the idea that aliens created humanity.


In my opinion, what the Spirit is trying to tell us is that the descendents of Seth are the sons of God because of the godly men and patriarchs who descended from them, all the way down to the Savior himself, and that the descendents of Cain are the spawn of men and have nothing from God in them.[2]
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 50614546

This is the correct interpretation of the sons of God... They were not aliens and they were not hollywood-style angels.

Ancient Christian holy texts espouse that angels mingled with the daughters of men.
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Yes, they did... But what exactly are sons of God?


John 1:
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Romans 8:
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


After the fall of Constantinople, (1453 C.E.) many texts of the Roman and Greek culture reached the West. On the other hand, the legend of the angelic uprising was known in the east of the Empire. A Bar Hebraeus (1226 - 1286) wrote an extensive chronography on the subject:


"...Therefore, according to what time hath brought, I, having entered the Library of the city of MARAGHAH of ADHORBIJAN, have loaded up this my little book with narratives ... from many volumes of the Syrians, Saracens (Arab), and Persians which are preserved here....
After Adam came Seth his son. In the time of Seth, when his sons remembered the blessed life (which they had led) in Paradise, they went up into the mountain of Hermon, and there they led a chaste and holy life, being remote from carnal intercourse; and for this reason they were called IRE , meaning watchers and sons of Alohim. ... After Seth came Anosh his son ... although he submitted to marriage, he was not neglectful in pleasing God, and he did so more than those who chose a life of virginity and who went up into the mountain of Hermon, but who did not abide in their covenant ...
...And in the fortieth year of Yard [biblical Yared]... the Sons of God, about two hundred souls, came down from the mountain of Hermon, because they had lost all hope of a return to Paradise. And because they lusted for carnal intercourse with women, their brethren the sons of Seth and Anosh despised them, and regarded them as transgressors of the covenant, and they refused to give them their daughters. And because of this, they went to the children of Cain, and took wives, and begat mighty men of names ... notorious for murders and robberies. Moreover, they set up over them the first king, a man whose name was Samyazos.
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The hybrid Nephilim that still walk among us today...God longs to show them mercy and welcome them back into the fold. They are, after all, our siblings because God created all life, including that which is unseen (the fallen angels). I cry for my long lost brothers and sisters. My heart goes out for their deliverance. He who is forgiven much loveth much.
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if you get a 1599 Geneva Bible (the one w all the cool notes) you will see that it says Godly men mated w Godless women, and that created the giants/heros of old...

Walter Veith has a good vid on the many changes to most modern bibles and the agenda behind it:


Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49889043


You have hit the nail on the head. Angels do not have sex and mate with humans. It was the sons of God (Godly people) and the daughters of men (carnal people).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641


How does a godly man and an ungodly woman procreate and create demi-gods like Hercules?

Keep lying to yourself.
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The book of enoch says nothing about them or their sons being super-human.
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SPREAD THE WORD!

Why Was the Book of Enoch Rejected from the Bible?

We have seen how the Biblical book of Enoch tells us that evolution happened by means of fallen angels, or aliens, who bred with animals, and of how other ancient Christian texts tell the same story.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 50614546


Exactly where in the book of enoch is this stated?

Some may ask, if Enoch was such a great book, then why isn't it in the Bible today? There must be a reason why the churches ultimately rejected it, right?

Actually, Enoch still is in the Bible. The Ethiopian Christians still hold Enoch sacred. This is a crucial point, because Ethiopian Christianity traces its roots to apostolic times, and it was relatively free from the pagan influences which adulterated Christian tradition within the Roman Empire. Since Ethiopia was never part of the Roman Empire, Constantine’s mixing of pagan sun worship with Christianity never had an impact on the development of the faith. Therefore, Ethiopian Christianity is more trustworthy than Roman Christianity. Ethiopia accepts Enoch, so Christians outside Ethiopia should accept Enoch too.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 50614546


Neither Roman nor Ethiopian Christianity accepts the idea that aliens created humanity.


In my opinion, what the Spirit is trying to tell us is that the descendents of Seth are the sons of God because of the godly men and patriarchs who descended from them, all the way down to the Savior himself, and that the descendents of Cain are the spawn of men and have nothing from God in them.[2]
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 50614546

This is the correct interpretation of the sons of God... They were not aliens and they were not hollywood-style angels.

Ancient Christian holy texts espouse that angels mingled with the daughters of men.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 50614546


Yes, they did... But what exactly are sons of God?


John 1:
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Romans 8:
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


After the fall of Constantinople, (1453 C.E.) many texts of the Roman and Greek culture reached the West. On the other hand, the legend of the angelic uprising was known in the east of the Empire. A Bar Hebraeus (1226 - 1286) wrote an extensive chronography on the subject:


"...Therefore, according to what time hath brought, I, having entered the Library of the city of MARAGHAH of ADHORBIJAN, have loaded up this my little book with narratives ... from many volumes of the Syrians, Saracens (Arab), and Persians which are preserved here....
After Adam came Seth his son. In the time of Seth, when his sons remembered the blessed life (which they had led) in Paradise, they went up into the mountain of Hermon, and there they led a chaste and holy life, being remote from carnal intercourse; and for this reason they were called IRE , meaning watchers and sons of Alohim. ... After Seth came Anosh his son ... although he submitted to marriage, he was not neglectful in pleasing God, and he did so more than those who chose a life of virginity and who went up into the mountain of Hermon, but who did not abide in their covenant ...
...And in the fortieth year of Yard [biblical Yared]... the Sons of God, about two hundred souls, came down from the mountain of Hermon, because they had lost all hope of a return to Paradise. And because they lusted for carnal intercourse with women, their brethren the sons of Seth and Anosh despised them, and regarded them as transgressors of the covenant, and they refused to give them their daughters. And because of this, they went to the children of Cain, and took wives, and begat mighty men of names ... notorious for murders and robberies. Moreover, they set up over them the first king, a man whose name was Samyazos.
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Do you also believe God confounded the language at the building of the Tower of Babel because the building was too tall?
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Neither Roman nor Ethiopian Christianity accepts the idea that aliens created humanity.


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Misdirection. OP never said (to my knowledge) that aliens/angels CREATED humanity, only that they altered/corrupted it.
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Because you are basically trained monkey slaves of the master system.

You have to be kept as ignorant as possible...

You spend your days constantly positively reinforcing your ignorance.

Fighting to the death to remain asleep to continue to enjoy the dream you are awake.
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Sons of Man = Planetary Humans created by the LORD that live on planets that have fallen to SIN.

Sons of GOD = Are Sons of Man that have been "SAVED" through GOD in the flesh as JESUS CHRIST, OR MAN that have come from planets that have NOT FALLEN TO SIN.

Angels = Are GODS personal helpers in his creation and ANGELS
do NOT PROCREATE.

Fallen Angels = Were once ANGELS that aided GOD in his creation and fell to Sin and from GODS grace.
FALLEN ANGELS DO NOT PROCREATE

Fallen Angels DO mix DNA and have created CLONES as personal helpers/children.

SONS OF GOD came unto the daughters of MAN on planet EARTH.
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Then we can assume we are all fallen angels? "No man hath come to earth that hasn't come from heaven." Right?
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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
if you get a 1599 Geneva Bible (the one w all the cool notes) you will see that it says Godly men mated w Godless women, and that created the giants/heros of old...

Walter Veith has a good vid on the many changes to most modern bibles and the agenda behind it:


Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49889043


You have hit the nail on the head. Angels do not have sex and mate with humans. It was the sons of God (Godly people) and the daughters of men (carnal people).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641


How does a godly man and an ungodly woman procreate and create demi-gods like Hercules?

Keep lying to yourself.
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The book of enoch says nothing about them or their sons being super-human.
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The Bible DOES.
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The hybrid Nephilim that still walk among us today...God longs to show them mercy and welcome them back into the fold. They are, after all, our siblings because God created all life, including that which is unseen (the fallen angels). I cry for my long lost brothers and sisters. My heart goes out for their deliverance. He who is forgiven much loveth much.
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The book of enoch says nothing about hybid nephilim walking the earth today. The book specifically states that they are all DEAD. What remains of them are their spirits which shall bring destruction upon humanity until the consummation of the ages. The book is used by sorcerers and magicians to gain an understanding of the spiritual world. The 'people' who were once called sons of God are dead, their legacy is the things they brought into this world... IE: statism, government, sorcery, magic, idolatry, murder, war, etc... Those things are the spirits of the nephilim, they are the spirits of man birthed by our ego (aka the devil, the flesh, pan, prometheus, etc...) Demonology has more to do with modern psychology than anything else. Drop the superstition and fantasy.
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Because you are basically trained monkey slaves of the master system.

You have to be kept as ignorant as possible...

You spend your days constantly positively reinforcing your ignorance.

Fighting to the death to remain asleep to continue to enjoy the dream you are awake.
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OH shut up.
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You are not human beings.

A human being is an ideal to strive to attain.

You are not a realized ideal at the moment of conception and what you see in a mirror is not a Human being.

Once you convince a person they are a Human being...all the other lies that require that belief as a prerequisite then become believable.

Pre 1900...Women in the British empire were not even considered to be persons.

The Human being ideal has only been around for 100 years or so.

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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
The hybrid Nephilim that still walk among us today...God longs to show them mercy and welcome them back into the fold. They are, after all, our siblings because God created all life, including that which is unseen (the fallen angels). I cry for my long lost brothers and sisters. My heart goes out for their deliverance. He who is forgiven much loveth much.
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The book of enoch says nothing about hybid nephilim walking the earth today. The book specifically states that they are all DEAD. What remains of them are their spirits which shall bring destruction upon humanity until the consummation of the ages. The book is used by sorcerers and magicians to gain an understanding of the spiritual world. The 'people' who were once called sons of God are dead, their legacy is the things they brought into this world... IE: statism, government, sorcery, magic, idolatry, murder, war, etc... Those things are the spirits of the nephilim, they are the spirits of man birthed by our ego (aka the devil, the flesh, pan, prometheus, etc...) Demonology has more to do with modern psychology than anything else. Drop the superstition and fantasy.
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Ah, so demons don't really exist...they're just mental illness, right? So Jesus cast schizophrenia (or was it ADD?) into the swine who then drowned themselves?

Drop the premise of actually being a believer.

You've been outed.

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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
if you get a 1599 Geneva Bible (the one w all the cool notes) you will see that it says Godly men mated w Godless women, and that created the giants/heros of old...

Walter Veith has a good vid on the many changes to most modern bibles and the agenda behind it:


Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught

[link to www.youtube.com]
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You have hit the nail on the head. Angels do not have sex and mate with humans. It was the sons of God (Godly people) and the daughters of men (carnal people).
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How does a godly man and an ungodly woman procreate and create demi-gods like Hercules?

Keep lying to yourself.
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The book of enoch says nothing about them or their sons being super-human.
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heroes mighty men of renowned ring a bell?



1 Corinthians 8:5 "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)" but to christians there is but one God.

The interbreeding of these fallen angels with humans is what created all of the pantheons of gods and demi-gods throughout the world.

The greek god apollo is mentioned in revelation as being the king of the bottomless pit.

Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

Psalm 82:1"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.



82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
Because you are basically trained monkey slaves of the master system.

You have to be kept as ignorant as possible...

You spend your days constantly positively reinforcing your ignorance.

Fighting to the death to remain asleep to continue to enjoy the dream you are awake.
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OH shut up.
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See...you are a murder.

The only way to shut me up is to kill me.

So its never going to happen unless you can kill me.
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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
Do you also believe God confounded the language at the building of the Tower of Babel because the building was too tall?
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I believe that story is a metaphor similar to most of the rest of [ancient history] contained in the earlier books of the Bible. Haven't looked all that much into it but it's an intriguing story.
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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
Not true.

Book of Enoch is not only mentioned but it is cited directly from it in Book of Jude.





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