Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels

It is. Go to Blue Letter Bible and look it up and read the actual hebrew text and what those words mean. Illuminating, if you're not afraid of being labeled a believer of "fairy tales".

The Romans mishmashed different Pagan philosophies and the Ptolemaic tales they inherited from them in Egypt to create the Torah and hundreds of years late they slaughtered the Cults that grew up in Egypt and confiscated their text to write the "New Testament".

I'm not going to debate "Scripture" with anyone its like trying to historically prove a Dr. Seuss Book.

I don't have a copy of the blue letter bible care to explain "fairy tales" I am interested.

Then why bother coming to this thread at all?

Isn't there a fun "poo" thread to play on?

Let me repeat this for you people.

www.blueletterbible.org Great tool if you're interested in learning what the Bible actually said.

"Fairytales" are what the atheists call the beliefs of the faithful.

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Yes, please go into more detail. I am actually learning ancient Hebrew at the moment, but I would like at least a few clues if you would be so kind.

In real life my name is Michael

I created the alter ego of Hypertiger back in 1987.

I was born in St Michael's Hospital.

The bible has been touched by people...It is like all writings.

lies you believe are Truth.

Truth is GOD and GOD is Truth.

You all are ignorant of Truth.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil

And by genuine Christian ( which is not Western by the way ) approach, Holy Spirit composed Bible and nothing can be added or taken away from it.
In other words if it is cited from it even if it is only one passage.
It's enough to be accepted and researched.

anyone an earth angel

And what you are doing is also mentioned in the Bible.

You are teaching without yourselves having a clue about the matter that you teach.

Blind leading the blind.

The books of the Old Testament say they still live today, specifically Joshua and Kings. It's okay. I still love you. I know what I'm dealing with. It's very, very small.

what do you guys get from the book of enoch what is the general picture you see

I use it all the time! Give us a synopsis please!!!

Regarding the Tower of Babel? Basically it says (sorry, it's been years since I did this study) that the building would enable mankind to "shake up the heavenlies". Which to my understanding means mess around in the spiritual realms, which is basically what Enoch talks about. Men controlling spirit entities/demons.

It had nothing to do with height, at least not as far as being able to reach Heaven...I mean, come on.
There was something...magickal?...going on there.

BTW...Blue letter Bible will give you the original text of any verse...if you click on each word it will tell you the original meaning...some Hebrew words have multiple meanings.

It's really cool. Check it out.

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it will be the same as the days of noah

IT IS as it was in the days of Noah. Right now.

Daemons are real. Technically Daemons are background processes within the 'flesh' which evoke specific spirits when the right criteria is met.

For instance, when I gave my viewpoints, some sort of subconscious conditioning associated with your worldview evoked a defensive spirit that exists to protect the worldview from foreign ideas.

As far as the instance with the swine, no, I do not believe it was schizophrenia.

22 And The LORD said, Behold! The man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and also take from the Tree of Life, and eat, and live forever,
23 The Lord sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground out of which he was taken.
24 And the Lord drove the man out. And He lodged the cherubs at the east of the Garden of Eden, and the flaming sword whirling around to guard the way of the Tree of Life.

The way of the tree of life.

Ignorant self indulgent reason

The path of least resistance to the logical conclusion.

Animals take more power than they give from all and everything to sustain existence.

It is like chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain eternal life.

Knowledgeable altruistic logic

Human beings share power equally with all and everything to sustain existence.

The path of most resistance to the logical conclusion

It is like chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to sustain eternal life.

Ignorance or reason...leads to death at the logical conclusion

Knowledge or logic...leads to eternal life since it has no logical conclusion.

You all follow the path of least resistance to death

Like animals.

The flaming sword whirling around to guard the way of the Tree of Life

Is a lie you believe is Truth.

That is what the bible tells me.

Since I know Truth...All the lies you all believe are Truth.

Do not have any real power over me.

The Lord (Ignorance/lies) works in mysterious ways

GOD (Knowledge/Truth) does not.

Thanks so much for that. I happen to have an enormously large exhaustive concordance with Greek and Hebrew word definitions, but I'm sure that website would be a bit easier to navigate than a 1400+ page book.

you get it then

When Frayed Knot commanded me to shut up.

That was a Demon becoming visible...I summoned it out for all to see.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Angels are not Aliens they are spirit but they can transform into flesh

Genesis 19
1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

How many of us Please God. foretold of Jesus Christ son of man.


The Book of Enoch foretold of Christ.
Also the Seventy Generation until his rule of Earth.
Israel becoming a Nation is the last Generation of 70 Years

The Second Parable of Enoch:
On that day Mine Elect One shall sit on the throne of glory
And shall try their works,
And their places of rest shall be innumerable.

And their souls shall grow strong within them when they see Mine Elect Ones,
And those who have called upon My glorious name:
Then will I cause Mine Elect One to dwell among them.

Chapter 10 of Enoch
And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire:

Psalm 90
10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

70X70 = 4900 Years
Enoch was about 300yrs old in around year 870 to 890 before the Flood.

4900 = 874 = 5774 the Jewish year

Remember the Jews like the Angel where punished by God for 490years

Daniel 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

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Yeah, I get defensive when people project pshyco-babble into spiritual things. I've had to defend my beliefs enough times from THAT. No "subconscious conditioning". Does not apply. I didnt' grow up in church and have spent more than enough time out in the real world to understand when I'm being manipulated with heavy handed words and philosophies.

As to the schizophrenia comment...that was sarcasm.

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You're going to LOVE it.

It has all the Greek too.

ENJOY my friend, enjoy.

Heavenlies, like ufo's?

Mighty men of renown does not imply demi-gods.

Anything we call a 'god' is a god. Yes, there are 'gods' in heaven and on earth.

The pantheon of gods created by man were just that... created by man. Idols do not breath or think or do anything... Which is why God thinks it's pretty stupid to worship them. Today our culture still worships gods, these are archetypes portrayed in movies, they are any 'person of renown' (usually called 'stars'), and they are deific principles like Freedom and Liberty--vain imaginative things.

Apollyon/Abaddon is not Apollo.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"He is the highest of the angels and serves as the celestial scribe"

I know Truth...or the secret of the word of GOD

But I did not create the word "Truth" or "GOD".

I just use them...Words are all lies you believe are Truth and they are composed of letters or symbols that are lies you believe are Truth.

I liked the last one!

Well, Ezekiel does mention something that sounds like UFOs, so ????

I think of it in terms of dimensions.

I think there are dimensional levels that contain entities that are in turn demonic, angelic, and God himself at the Highest.

I'm still learning.