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Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels

 
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When Frayed Knot commanded me to shut up.

That was a Demon becoming visible...I summoned it out for all to see.

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Lol. I know the energies of those who are fractured to a point of disconnect, and here they are, for all to see.
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Do you also believe God confounded the language at the building of the Tower of Babel because the building was too tall?
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I believe that story is a metaphor similar to most of the rest of [ancient history] contained in the earlier books of the Bible. Haven't looked all that much into it but it's an intriguing story.
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It is. Go to Blue Letter Bible and look it up and read the actual hebrew text and what those words mean. Illuminating, if you're not afraid of being labeled a believer of "fairy tales".
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I use the Hebrew/Greek lexicon all the time.

1 Tim 1:
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
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Yes, please go into more detail. I am actually learning ancient Hebrew at the moment, but I would like at least a few clues if you would be so kind.
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Regarding the Tower of Babel? Basically it says (sorry, it's been years since I did this study) that the building would enable mankind to "shake up the heavenlies". Which to my understanding means mess around in the spiritual realms, which is basically what Enoch talks about. Men controlling spirit entities/demons.

It had nothing to do with height, at least not as far as being able to reach Heaven...I mean, come on.
There was something...magickal?...going on there.

BTW...Blue letter Bible will give you the original text of any verse...if you click on each word it will tell you the original meaning...some Hebrew words have multiple meanings.

It's really cool. Check it out.
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Heavenlies, like ufo's?
 Quoting: bigD111


Well, Ezekiel does mention something that sounds like UFOs, so ????

I think of it in terms of dimensions.

I think there are dimensional levels that contain entities that are in turn demonic, angelic, and God himself at the Highest.

I'm still learning.
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Hermetics? As in Bardon.
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How does a godly man and an ungodly woman procreate and create demi-gods like Hercules?

Keep lying to yourself.
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The book of enoch says nothing about them or their sons being super-human.
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heroes mighty men of renowned ring a bell?



1 Corinthians 8:5 "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)" but to christians there is but one God.

The interbreeding of these fallen angels with humans is what created all of the pantheons of gods and demi-gods throughout the world.

The greek god apollo is mentioned in revelation as being the king of the bottomless pit.

Revelation 9:11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

Psalm 82:1"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.



82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
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Mighty men of renown does not imply demi-gods.

Anything we call a 'god' is a god. Yes, there are 'gods' in heaven and on earth.

The pantheon of gods created by man were just that... created by man. Idols do not breath or think or do anything... Which is why God thinks it's pretty stupid to worship them. Today our culture still worships gods, these are archetypes portrayed in movies, they are any 'person of renown' (usually called 'stars'), and they are deific principles like Freedom and Liberty--vain imaginative things.

Apollyon/Abaddon is not Apollo.
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Then what do your psychology books tell you is the abyss (bottomless pit)?

The ego?

I'm not totally at odds with you btw. I think there is some truth to the idea of "the adversary" being our fleshly resistance to spirituality.

That being said? I know there is evil out there. Not some fancy psych word for mental illness, but real evil. And you can't look at what's going on right now and tell me there isn't some power behind what tptb are getting away with. There's more to it than simple human ego.
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Yes, please go into more detail. I am actually learning ancient Hebrew at the moment, but I would like at least a few clues if you would be so kind.
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Regarding the Tower of Babel? Basically it says (sorry, it's been years since I did this study) that the building would enable mankind to "shake up the heavenlies". Which to my understanding means mess around in the spiritual realms, which is basically what Enoch talks about. Men controlling spirit entities/demons.

It had nothing to do with height, at least not as far as being able to reach Heaven...I mean, come on.
There was something...magickal?...going on there.

BTW...Blue letter Bible will give you the original text of any verse...if you click on each word it will tell you the original meaning...some Hebrew words have multiple meanings.

It's really cool. Check it out.
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Heavenlies, like ufo's?
 Quoting: bigD111


Well, Ezekiel does mention something that sounds like UFOs, so ????

I think of it in terms of dimensions.

I think there are dimensional levels that contain entities that are in turn demonic, angelic, and God himself at the Highest.

I'm still learning.
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aren't we all.......I read something one time that Babel was to be a UFO base..interesting concept.
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Gods are lies.

GOD is infinite and indestructible.

Infinity.

All that has ever happened without end for all eternity and all that will happen without end for all eternity happens at the same point.

GOD = Infinite = Indestructible = Truth = Knowledge = Logic = LAW = Love = Good = Righteous = Positive = 1

Satan = Finite = Fragile = Lies = Ignorant = Reason = Rule = Hate = Bad = Evil = Negative = 0
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Regarding the Tower of Babel? Basically it says (sorry, it's been years since I did this study) that the building would enable mankind to "shake up the heavenlies". Which to my understanding means mess around in the spiritual realms, which is basically what Enoch talks about. Men controlling spirit entities/demons.

It had nothing to do with height, at least not as far as being able to reach Heaven...I mean, come on.
There was something...magickal?...going on there.

BTW...Blue letter Bible will give you the original text of any verse...if you click on each word it will tell you the original meaning...some Hebrew words have multiple meanings.

It's really cool. Check it out.
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


Heavenlies, like ufo's?
 Quoting: bigD111


Well, Ezekiel does mention something that sounds like UFOs, so ????

I think of it in terms of dimensions.

I think there are dimensional levels that contain entities that are in turn demonic, angelic, and God himself at the Highest.

I'm still learning.
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


Hermetics? As in Bardon.
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Sorry, now you'll have to explain to me. lol.
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The Nature of God is to Create
Man was created in the image of God
What does men want to do, create!
Look around You and see all that man has used his hands to create, well some of us anyway
We create life (babies) because we were create in the image of God.
It is sort of simple!


Genesis 5

5 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Genesis 3
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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Regarding the Tower of Babel? Basically it says (sorry, it's been years since I did this study) that the building would enable mankind to "shake up the heavenlies". Which to my understanding means mess around in the spiritual realms, which is basically what Enoch talks about. Men controlling spirit entities/demons.

It had nothing to do with height, at least not as far as being able to reach Heaven...I mean, come on.
There was something...magickal?...going on there.

BTW...Blue letter Bible will give you the original text of any verse...if you click on each word it will tell you the original meaning...some Hebrew words have multiple meanings.

It's really cool. Check it out.
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


Heavenlies, like ufo's?
 Quoting: bigD111


Well, Ezekiel does mention something that sounds like UFOs, so ????

I think of it in terms of dimensions.

I think there are dimensional levels that contain entities that are in turn demonic, angelic, and God himself at the Highest.

I'm still learning.
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


aren't we all.......I read something one time that Babel was to be a UFO base..interesting concept.
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You all are entangled within threads like flies on the world wide web of lies ruled by the horror of babble on.
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When Frayed Knot commanded me to shut up.

That was a Demon becoming visible...I summoned it out for all to see.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Hypertiger


Lol. I know the energies of those who are fractured to a point of disconnect, and here they are, for all to see.
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Sorry, Tiger.

I just never understand a damned thing you're trying to say.

And I guess I resent your condescending attitude.

You always seem to be putting everyone else down, and I find it highly annoying.
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Goodnight guys, it's that time.

God bless you. hf
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The Nature of God is to Create
Man was created in the image of God
What does men want to do create
We create life (babies) because we were create in the image of God.
It is sort of simple!


Genesis 5

5 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Genesis 3
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
 Quoting: Tips


Take a byte of the forbidden fruit of logic and gain awareness of 1 and 0

It is what separates knowledge from ignorance

Human beings from animals.

Something from nothing

Truth from lies.

1 from 0

logic from reason.

liberals from conservatives

up from down

right from wrong

infinite from finite

supply from demand

life from death

white from black

need from want

rich from poor

The future from the past

positive from negative

The invisible order from the visible chaos

GOD from Satan

Angels from demons

clockwise from counter clockwise

What matters from what does not matter

Matter from antimatter.

Yes from no

victory from defeat

knowing from believing.

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what do you guys get from the book of enoch what is the general picture you see
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that we were there before we came here, and became imprisoned in this flesh coat
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Heavenlies, like ufo's?
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Well, Ezekiel does mention something that sounds like UFOs, so ????

I think of it in terms of dimensions.

I think there are dimensional levels that contain entities that are in turn demonic, angelic, and God himself at the Highest.

I'm still learning.
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aren't we all.......I read something one time that Babel was to be a UFO base..interesting concept.
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You all are entangled within threads like flies on the world wide web of lies ruled by the horror of babble on.
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way to be a thread killer! Pat yourself on the back, oh wise one and obama9
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Heavenlies, like ufo's?
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Well, Ezekiel does mention something that sounds like UFOs, so ????

I think of it in terms of dimensions.

I think there are dimensional levels that contain entities that are in turn demonic, angelic, and God himself at the Highest.

I'm still learning.
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Hermetics? As in Bardon.
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Sorry, now you'll have to explain to me. lol.
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It is part of a path, one which I am learning about what you mentioned. It involves, at its most basic level, the Kybalion, and Franz Bardon's 3 main books, plus the 'newly discovered' material. If you feel drawn, read Kybalion first. It is free online, copyright expired, www.kybalion.org

Next, IIH, Franz Bardon. This was hidden from me until last year, for if I would have found it sooner I would not be where I am today, which apparently is where I needed to be, before I was shown the material. Godspeed.
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It's not in the Bible because of the glaring falsehoods and errors in it, well at least all the copies we have of it.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
[link to www.brainout.net]
[link to www.atruechurch.info]
[link to kimolsen.wordpress.com]

also most all of those that follow and teach from the book of Enoch are very crazy people that turned crazy apparently by that book... I would stay away from it.

The links above give different reasons why it's not to be trusted.
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Your ignorance killed the thread

Not my knowledge.

Ignorance is not bliss.

Negative does not equal positive.

Satan does not equal GOD

Out of sight and out of mind is the religion of the blind.

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It's not in the Bible because of the glaring falsehoods and errors in it, well at least all the copies we have of it.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
[link to www.brainout.net]
[link to www.atruechurch.info]
[link to kimolsen.wordpress.com]

also most all of those that follow and teach from the book of Enoch are very crazy people that turned crazy apparently by that book... I would stay away from it.

The links above give different reasons why it's not to be trusted.
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Yes, let us give in to fear and keep ourselves from knowledge so that we may be protected from pending insanity.

You should stay away from it, you already have your truths.
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what do you guys get from the book of enoch what is the general picture you see
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that we were there before we came here, and became imprisoned in this flesh coat
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One last post...

I see an answer to why God insisted the Hebrews kill off (even to the babies in some cases) so many of the other nationalities.

I see an answer to what God meant when He said Satan's seed would battle Eve's seed.

I see how the damn pyramids were built.

Lots of things.
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Ah, so demons don't really exist...they're just mental illness, right? Or was it ADD? So Jesus cast schizophrenia into the swine who then drowned themselves?

Drop the premise of actually being a believer.

You've been outed.
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Daemons are real. Technically Daemons are background processes within the 'flesh' which evoke specific spirits when the right criteria is met.

For instance, when I gave my viewpoints, some sort of subconscious conditioning associated with your worldview evoked a defensive spirit that exists to protect the worldview from foreign ideas.

As far as the instance with the swine, no, I do not believe it was schizophrenia.
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Yeah, I get defensive when people project pshyco-babble into spiritual things. I've had to defend my beliefs enough times from THAT. No "subconscious conditioning". Does not apply. I didnt' grow up in church and have spent more than enough time out in the real world to understand when I'm being manipulated with heavy handed words and philosophies.

As to the schizophrenia comment...that was sarcasm.
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But what is spirit?

Strongs 5590 - PSUCHE (PSYCHE)

Translated into english as the following: mind, soul, life, heart..

Strongs 4151 - PNEUMA

Translated into english as: spirit, ghost

the disposition or influence which fills and governs the soul of any one

the efficient source of any power, affection, emotion, desire, etc...


I'm not trying to manipulate you, technically, to me, that is sorcery/witchcraft.
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Again

Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

How many of us Please God.
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Your ignorance killed the thread

Not my knowledge.

Ignorance is not bliss.

Negative does not equal positive.

Satan does not equal GOD

Out of sight and out of mind is the religion of the blind.
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Lol. That is a great line at the end. As for the rest of it, I agree with what was previously stated - 'heavy handed words and philosophies'.
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OP you are full of shit. The only people who were in Israel before Israel were the Canaanites. The Hebrews moved into their Homes. Your bible even states this.

There were no Hybrids or Giants, all New Age Bullshit.
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The Bible states there were giants.

Goliath ring a bell?

Not only that but it also states they were the product of the "Sons of God and the daughters of men".

It's in there.

Promise.
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The LORD demands death

GOD demands life.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil

Ignorance of GOD is the root of all evil

Ignorance of knowledge is the root of all Ignorance

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over ignorance while the war against knowledge has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over Satan while the war against GOD has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.
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The LORD demands death

GOD demands life.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil

Ignorance of GOD is the root of all evil

Ignorance of knowledge is the root of all Ignorance

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over ignorance while the war against knowledge has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over Satan while the war against GOD has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.
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Ah, so demons don't really exist...they're just mental illness, right? Or was it ADD? So Jesus cast schizophrenia into the swine who then drowned themselves?

Drop the premise of actually being a believer.

You've been outed.
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


Daemons are real. Technically Daemons are background processes within the 'flesh' which evoke specific spirits when the right criteria is met.

For instance, when I gave my viewpoints, some sort of subconscious conditioning associated with your worldview evoked a defensive spirit that exists to protect the worldview from foreign ideas.

As far as the instance with the swine, no, I do not believe it was schizophrenia.
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Yeah, I get defensive when people project pshyco-babble into spiritual things. I've had to defend my beliefs enough times from THAT. No "subconscious conditioning". Does not apply. I didnt' grow up in church and have spent more than enough time out in the real world to understand when I'm being manipulated with heavy handed words and philosophies.

As to the schizophrenia comment...that was sarcasm.
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But what is spirit?

Strongs 5590 - PSUCHE (PSYCHE)

Translated into english as the following: mind, soul, life, heart..

Strongs 4151 - PNEUMA

Translated into english as: spirit, ghost

the disposition or influence which fills and governs the soul of any one

the efficient source of any power, affection, emotion, desire, etc...


I'm not trying to manipulate you, technically, to me, that is sorcery/witchcraft.
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The Internet allows a crude connection to be made between Psyche
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The LORD demands death

GOD demands life.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil

Ignorance of GOD is the root of all evil

Ignorance of knowledge is the root of all Ignorance

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over ignorance while the war against knowledge has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over Satan while the war against GOD has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.
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lsd
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I created the Hypertiger alter ego in 1987.

I was creating web pages before the Internet was even known about.

I have had this same battle over and over again for decades.

The Internet is master and all that connect are slaves.

That is of course negative.

So you feed the negatives through the just think/embrace positive ignore/reject negative equation.

The embrace lies and delusion or fantasy reject Truth or reality equation.

master/dealer becomes server

Slave/addict becomes client.

The client server relationship is positive

compared to

The master/dealer Slave/addict relationship which is negative.

If necessity is the mother of invention.

Then invent marketing

Then use marketing to become the mother of necessity

English is a high level programing language.

Where you can get into hot water by skating on thin ice.

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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
The LORD demands death

GOD demands life.

Ignorance of Truth is the root of all evil

Ignorance of GOD is the root of all evil

Ignorance of knowledge is the root of all Ignorance

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over ignorance while the war against knowledge has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.

There is never a lasting victory over Satan while the war against GOD has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.
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lsd
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I created the Hypertiger alter ego in 1987.

I was creating web pages before the Internet was even known about.

I have had this same battle over and over again for decades.

The Internet is master and all that connect are slaves.

That is of course negative.

So you feed the negatives through the just think/embrace positive ignore/reject negative equation.

The embrace lies and delusion or fantasy reject Truth or reality equation.

master/dealer becomes server

Slave/addict becomes client.

The client server relationship is positive

compared to

The master/dealer Slave/addict relationship which is negative.

If necessity is the mother of invention.

Then invent marketing

Then use marketing to become the mother of necessity

English is a high level programing language.

Where you can get into hot water by skating on thin ice.
 Quoting: Hypertiger


ahhh! I see said the blind man!
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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
Then what do your psychology books tell you is the abyss (bottomless pit)?

The ego?
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I think the better translation would be 'well' (G4521). The bottomless well/cistern. "Pit" has too much 'baggage' associated with it.

Since it is ruled by Apollyon (Death/Destruction) it is probably the 'place of no return'... A hint comes at Rev 17 where the 'beast' that 'was', 'is not', 'yet shall be' and ascend from the bottomless pit and go into perdition (again, destruction). The thing that comes out of the bottomless pit is the eighth and final empire on earth before the consummation.

In general, prophets (including Jesus) define wells as places [within an individual or collective] in which the 'Word' spring up from the underworld (the collective unconscious).

I'm not totally at odds with you btw. I think there is some truth to the idea of "the adversary" being our fleshly resistance to spirituality.

That being said? I know there is evil out there. Not some fancy psych word for mental illness, but real evil. And you can't look at what's going on right now and tell me there isn't some power behind what tptb are getting away with. There's more to it than simple human ego.
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Mark 7 (Jesus speaking):
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

What is the ego? The sense of self-importance or self-preservation. It is the animal, the flesh-spirit.

What is the Spirit of Christ? Self Sacrifice (the greatest love). It is the God-spirit.
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Re: Why the Book of Enoch is not included in the Bible? Because it foretold the truth about Jesus and the Fallen Angels
It's not in the Bible because of the glaring falsehoods and errors in it, well at least all the copies we have of it.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
[link to www.brainout.net]
[link to www.atruechurch.info]
[link to kimolsen.wordpress.com]

also most all of those that follow and teach from the book of Enoch are very crazy people that turned crazy apparently by that book... I would stay away from it.

The links above give different reasons why it's not to be trusted.
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1doh1

The use of fear-mongering & scare-tactics only arises out of ignorance or the desire to control others. So which is it here? Maybe a little bit of both?

Just because an individual reads something absolutely does not mean he/she has to agree with it or automatically accept it. That's what DISCERNMENT is for - remember? Or should individuals just guide themselves through life based on being afraid of reading information and exploring things for themselves because they are too helpless to exercise their own discernment/judgement? Perhaps it's more comfortable navigating life by just staying inside a nice little box?

lala

Now go ahead and reply with your usual 'hell' cartoon response or similar threats of spiritual condemnation.

yawn





GLP