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UCLA Protesters Call Good Grammar Racist

 
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Grasp of language is a tool that sets the mind free. A good idea that can be easily communicated is more powerful than any bullet.

Everybody makes grammar and spelling mistakes, but for people to not aspire to improve their grasp of language is insane.

Its like these kind of people have never read 1984 and understood what newspeak was about and could lead to.
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Grasp of language is a tool that sets the mind free. A good idea when easily communicated is more powerful than any bullet.

Everyone makes grammar and spelling mistakes, but for people not aspiring for improvement of their grasp of language is insane.

It is like these people have never read 1984 and understood what newspeak was about and leads to.


See that? I just corrected your some of your most basic grammar mistakes. You can do better!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43053124


You did little better.

What are you trying to prove anyway? That bad grammar is ok? That you are smarter?

I think the point here is that black ebonic students must be held to account to the same degree as white students. All of us who have been through college are well aware how stringently writing is taken. And why shouldn't it be? Should we as learned citizens not be masters of our own language?
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I doubt that "black ebonic students" have anything to do with this. Why do you think that?

The OP link doesn't make this a black / white issue, and a UCLA article says there were about 25 graduate students of color participating. A photo shows about 7 of them, and they appear to be white Hispanics, except for an Asian, a black and a white. Notably, the white appears to be taking a cell phone camera picture, while the black is the only one actually reading an apparent handout/flyer, which several of the grad school students are holding.
[link to dailybruin.com]

The article also provides the names of the organizers and participants, and they look to me like Spanish-origin names.

In California universities, racial affirmative action is forbidden by state law, and there are not many blacks in the UC schools, especially at the graduate level, relative to many other states.
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I must assume is is not ebonic-speaking blacks themselves who are stirring up this trouble. The use of the fancy term "micro-aggression" reveals the troublemaker as a highly educated person, even if this education mostly consists of leftist propaganda designed to sabotage civilization.
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Dat bee wat eyes be sayn
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How did they get into college? What a bunch of cry babies...
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Special snowflake syndrome...they got awarded for mediocre work in high school, got a free ride to college on the taxpayer's tab, and now don't feel the need to grow or learn or expand their minds.


Why should they? They've been told nothing but how fabulous they are for years because of the color of their skin. They don't need no stinking language.
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There is no irony that the Democrat party in the Old South made a point of keeping blacks uneducated as to more easily control them. In that respect, very little has changed in this country over the past 200 years. The Democrat Party still presides over failing schools, failing policies, failing communities and has stoked the social chaos that has led to the virtual evaporation of the black family. The yoke has just been transferred from the plantation slavemaster to the politician and the university academic, who now achieve the same sinister ends via pseudo-benevolent mechanisms such as Affirmative Action and the lowering of social and academic standards. The result is the same. A significant percentage of America's black population STILL finds itself shackled, wanting and indebted to those who are most responsible for the degradation of their condition. It is a disgrace. NOTHING will improve in the black community until their self-anointed "protectors" cast aside the soft racism of low expectations and begin to hold blacks accountable to the SAME social and academic standards as the rest of society.
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Very well said!

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Conjugation of 'to be' in Ebonics

I be

You be

They be

We be
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I taught college English for 17 years. What I know and you don't is that black students have to battle other blacks to speak and write standard English. They often feel insecure and can be easily intimidated by white professors. A black woman who felt secure in my class and wrote some very good papers for me regressed in her subsequent class with a white male. This white male lashed out at me and her previous teachers for passing her. I felt bitterly contemptuous of this authoritarian white male, who was not a scholar, not an author, and not even a Ph.D.
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laugh
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Ebonics IS MURDER! It is KILLING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!

That's a felon...charge it!
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“The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief. In fact, if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall.…All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!” - Frederick Douglass
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Grasp of language is a tool that sets the mind free. A good idea that can be easily communicated is more powerful than any bullet.

Everybody makes grammar and spelling mistakes, but for people to not aspire to improve their grasp of language is insane.

Its like these kind of people have never read 1984 and understood what newspeak was about and could lead to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50532730


I guess illiterate masses are easier to control?

People that can read and write are dangerous to the overlords!

And the scary thing is, that newspeak is absolute reality.

It's just called "politically correct language".
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Of course illiterate masses are easier to control simple because they are not smart enough to realise that they don't have to sheeple. That is why "Higher Education" is increasingly coming under attack for informing the masses how to think and act on their own, without the constant drone of government controlled "social networks" telling them how to think, act, and what to buy.

I pity the day that the net goes down, We will become a country of idiots that don't know how to care for themselves without having a constant voice telling them what to do, what to think, where to buy, who to see, who they must worship, when to eat, when to sleep, and when to die because they are a waste of resources better use by their superiors.
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The protesters need to be expelled for lack of brains.
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LOL! We on the West Coast don't expect anything to ever make sense if it comes from California. Probably how people back east think about New York and New Jerkwad.
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Grasp of language is a tool that sets the mind free. A good idea that can be easily communicated is more powerful than any bullet.

Everybody makes grammar and spelling mistakes, but for people to not aspire to improve their grasp of language is insane.

Its like these kind of people have never read 1984 and understood what newspeak was about and could lead to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50532730


I guess illiterate masses are easier to control?

People that can read and write are dangerous to the overlords!

And the scary thing is, that newspeak is absolute reality.

It's just called "politically correct language".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43591318


That's why the elites want a mongrel world to rule over. The primitive races always long to go back to their original state. Even those which are educated in the Western way and apt in it, deep inside have a longing to destroy all its progress. Only the white races in their original form have in them the unquenchable aspiration to rule over nature. This is undeniable as for thousands of years before meeting each other the primitive races rejoiced in nature unmolested while the whites struggled with an unstoppable will to rule over it. The mix of these races creates an inner conflict which results in entropy. Mongrel peoples while in a majority state and unsupervised by white administration inevitably degenerate into chaos.
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However with the right programming the primitive races and their mongrel derivations pose no threat to a well made control system and their elite creators. However what these elites don't take into consideration is that while these races won't give them as much competition for hegemony, they won't be able to maintain such a beautiful world for them to enjoy as they do now. I guess they're planning to remain in their own private countries and allow the mongrel slaves to keep their goods and services being produced.
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They aren't that smart. Cunning is not smart. The NWO will result in a dark age.
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many are not fit for higher education.
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Eye foegatz tah addat datz ah micro-aggression of colah byuh cave apez if yo axe me, soduh speak, if yo will...
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It's heading here.

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UCLA protesters align 'intelligence' with 'racism'...

:racist5:

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Soon the 'thought police' will slap two offenses on us at the same time.

1. Wrong thoughts

2. Intelligent thoughts
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I taught college English for 17 years. What I know and you don't is that black students have to battle other blacks to speak and write standard English. They often feel insecure and can be easily intimidated by white professors. A black woman who felt secure in my class and wrote some very good papers for me regressed in her subsequent class with a white male. This white male lashed out at me and her previous teachers for passing her. I felt bitterly contemptuous of this authoritarian white male, who was not a scholar, not an author, and not even a Ph.D.
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And?
“My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave.”
-Stonewall Jackson

"The Bible that is falling apart usually belongs to a person who is not." - Charles Spurgeon

“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.”

“If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.” -Daniel Webster
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nut'n but raycis n hurr
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I've not got the right words to describe how infantile this appears to me.
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Same.

They are seriously abusing the race card in every possible way.
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I agree with you both 100%!
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Proper communication skills? Racisist… LMAO

What’s next, good driving is racist? You have to recline your seat and use your wrist to drive or you are a racist?





The good news?

No one will listen to the cries of “wolf” much longer even if they are true. The card has been over played for years, now it’s gone over the top.
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There is no irony that the Democrat party in the Old South made a point of keeping blacks uneducated as to more easily control them. In that respect, very little has changed in this country over the past 200 years. The Democrat Party still presides over failing schools, failing policies, failing communities and has stoked the social chaos that has led to the virtual evaporation of the black family. The yoke has just been transferred from the plantation slavemaster to the politician and the university academic, who now achieve the same sinister ends via pseudo-benevolent mechanisms such as Affirmative Action and the lowering of social and academic standards. The result is the same. A significant percentage of America's black population STILL finds itself shackled, wanting and indebted to those who are most responsible for the degradation of their condition. It is a disgrace. NOTHING will improve in the black community until their self-anointed "protectors" cast aside the soft racism of low expectations and begin to hold blacks accountable to the SAME social and academic standards as the rest of society.
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American blacks cannot meet those standards, on the average, nearly as well as whites. Even as hispanics. Affirmative action is the only thing that keeps blacks around in school and in many jobs.

Still they should not get this benefit just for being black. Plenty of whites have lower ability too, we all have our strengths and weaknesses.

I agree, abolish affirmative action. I think you will hate the result, but it will be the right result: fairness to each individual.
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A University of California Los Angeles professor recently came under fire from a number of students for what they described as racist behavior. According to professor emeritus Val Rust, the entire controversy arose from his effort to instill in his students a higher grammar proficiency.

Makes sense. If they don't understand the correct use of grammar, why would we expect them to understand the definition of 'racist'.

The word 'racist' has just become one of those words that young adults use out of habit. Remember a few years back when the word 'random' was in vogue?

Don't worry, in the next month or so it'll be some other word.
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I taught college English for 17 years. What I know and you don't is that black students have to battle other blacks to speak and write standard English. They often feel insecure and can be easily intimidated by white professors. A black woman who felt secure in my class and wrote some very good papers for me regressed in her subsequent class with a white male. This white male lashed out at me and her previous teachers for passing her. I felt bitterly contemptuous of this authoritarian white male, who was not a scholar, not an author, and not even a Ph.D.
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So was this black woman using standard English with you? What reasons did other profs give for saying you should not have passed her?

Also, what were the strengths in her "very good papers" she wrote for you? I want the full perspective.

What puzzles me is why she would not use standard English with a white male prof., if the only thing stopping her was having to "battle other blacks". FERPA would limit what other students could learn about what she submitted to this prof., if she wanted to keep it confidential.
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Poor babies. This will catch up with them after graduation when they send horribly written resumes and cover letters to potential employers.

Spelling and grammatical mistakes are a kiss of death for applicants. Who wants to hire someone who is going to be high maintenance? You won't be able to trust the person to represent your company, organization, etc. You will be concerned about accuracy and credibility.

Talk about biting the hand that is trying to feed them ....
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Poor babies. This will catch up with them after graduation when they send horribly written resumes and cover letters to potential employers.

Spelling and grammatical mistakes are a kiss of death for applicants. Who wants to hire someone who is going to be high maintenance? You won't be able to trust the person to represent your company, organization, etc. You will be concerned about accuracy and credibility.

Talk about biting the hand that is trying to feed them ....
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Unfortunately perhaps, there is spelling and even grammar correction software they can use. At some non-elite institutions, they are taught to use these (and even plagiarism-checkers) before handing in their work.
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I can't think of anything stupider to label racist.

In fact, behind the scenes and with deadly purpose, language is enduring an all out assault.

Just imagine language breaking down and civilization following suit.
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Ah yes, changing the definition of words, making up new ones. The English language is all but dead.
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Looks you be a motha fuckin' cracka! You be telling me it not be okay to speakin' withs that bads gramma! Dat how we talks cracka!
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lemme axe yu dis

that isn't English
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Looks you be a motha fuckin' cracka! You be telling me it not be okay to speakin' withs that bads gramma! Dat how we talks cracka!
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why yoos crackas be trippin? we ni88as only bees lookin fo free sheet like obomophones, ma ebt card, welfare so wees can buy big TV 'n sheet.





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