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Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto

 
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Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto
I was once told if you never ask, you'll never know.

It seems that the collective known as Satoshi, likened to the dread pirate roberts(princess bride collective) is a cryptographic numerical set that predicates it's machinations on 25 million total units(built in scarcity);

hosted upon an assymetric network which acts as both a mined resource unit (currency for bandwidth allocation on an ever cheapening basis(supply of available miners(tunnellers)data points) and an ever strenghtening redundancy checker as toward allocation or ownership of said units(byzantine generals problem).

Both the fear and promise of said system seem to be predicated on it's non centralized anonymous allocation of units and inability to create a centralized consensus, thus actively democratizing process.

Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto?

Is a assymmetric virtual entity as unassailable as the gates of heaven to those without the eyes to see?

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IMO some of the descriptions in the OP are misleading. Still a good question though.

The answer is complicated and still unfolding:
Thread: I am the Father of Cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin
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I was once told if you never ask, you'll never know.

It seems that the collective known as Satoshi, likened to the dread pirate roberts(princess bride collective) is a cryptographic numerical set that predicates it's machinations on 25 million total units(built in scarcity);

hosted upon an assymetric network which acts as both a mined resource unit (currency for bandwidth allocation on an ever cheapening basis(supply of available miners(tunnellers)data points) and an ever strenghtening redundancy checker as toward allocation or ownership of said units(byzantine generals problem).

Both the fear and promise of said system seem to be predicated on it's non centralized anonymous allocation of units and inability to create a centralized consensus, thus actively democratizing process.

Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto?

Is a assymmetric virtual entity as unassailable as the gates of heaven to those without the eyes to see?

Cheers
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WTF are you talking about?
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Re: Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto
IMO some of the descriptions in the OP are misleading. Still a good question though.

The answer is complicated and still unfolding:
Thread: I am the Father of Cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin
 Quoting: GFX guy


How so?

In the end I'm really only concerned with the flesh and bones of it.

Redundancy and weight (or weighted probability(in accord to the byzantine problem)) stop counterfeiting as does data allocation through nodal points.

But, remember, this is my understanding and not to be mistaken for an endorsement or criticism of said process(es)
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Re: Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto
I was once told if you never ask, you'll never know.

It seems that the collective known as Satoshi, likened to the dread pirate roberts(princess bride collective) is a cryptographic numerical set that predicates it's machinations on 25 million total units(built in scarcity);

hosted upon an assymetric network which acts as both a mined resource unit (currency for bandwidth allocation on an ever cheapening basis(supply of available miners(tunnellers)data points) and an ever strenghtening redundancy checker as toward allocation or ownership of said units(byzantine generals problem).

Both the fear and promise of said system seem to be predicated on it's non centralized anonymous allocation of units and inability to create a centralized consensus, thus actively democratizing process.

Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto?

Is a assymmetric virtual entity as unassailable as the gates of heaven to those without the eyes to see?

Cheers
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


WTF are you talking about?
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Japanese love covens and the proliferation of Sexy Kitty monies.
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Cental motivation is key to dissipating rumours and thus substantiated or unsubstantiated fears.
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Re: Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto
IMO some of the descriptions in the OP are misleading. Still a good question though.

The answer is complicated and still unfolding:
Thread: I am the Father of Cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin
 Quoting: GFX guy


How so?

In the end I'm really only concerned with the flesh and bones of it.

Redundancy and weight (or weighted probability(in accord to the byzantine problem)) stop counterfeiting as does data allocation through nodal points.

But, remember, this is my understanding and not to be mistaken for an endorsement or criticism of said process(es)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


...
It seems that the collective known as Satoshi, likened to the dread pirate roberts(princess bride collective) is a cryptographic numerical set that predicates it's machinations on 25 million total units(built in scarcity);
...
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus

Likening an incredible inventor with an online black-market kingpin is misleading in my book.

You seem to have a reasonable grasp on the protocol... so what exactly is your question? I'm not saying I could answer it but I did provide a link to a thread where you would be best served with your technical questions.
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cia/nsa moniker given to the creator of bitcoin...

5a

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I was once told if you never ask, you'll never know.

It seems that the collective known as Satoshi, likened to the dread pirate roberts(princess bride collective) is a cryptographic numerical set that predicates it's machinations on 25 million total units(built in scarcity);

hosted upon an assymetric network which acts as both a mined resource unit (currency for bandwidth allocation on an ever cheapening basis(supply of available miners(tunnellers)data points) and an ever strenghtening redundancy checker as toward allocation or ownership of said units(byzantine generals problem).

Both the fear and promise of said system seem to be predicated on it's non centralized anonymous allocation of units and inability to create a centralized consensus, thus actively democratizing process.

Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto?

Is a assymmetric virtual entity as unassailable as the gates of heaven to those without the eyes to see?

Cheers
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


WTF are you talking about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50995261



Japanese love covens and the proliferation of Sexy Kitty monies.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Huh?
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Satoshi Nakamoto = An enigma worthy of consideration whom has generated untold billions of dollars of wealth for they who have vision and daring.

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Re: Who in the world is Satoshi Nakamoto
IMO some of the descriptions in the OP are misleading. Still a good question though.

The answer is complicated and still unfolding:
Thread: I am the Father of Cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin
 Quoting: GFX guy


How so?

In the end I'm really only concerned with the flesh and bones of it.

Redundancy and weight (or weighted probability(in accord to the byzantine problem)) stop counterfeiting as does data allocation through nodal points.

But, remember, this is my understanding and not to be mistaken for an endorsement or criticism of said process(es)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


...
It seems that the collective known as Satoshi, likened to the dread pirate roberts(princess bride collective) is a cryptographic numerical set that predicates it's machinations on 25 million total units(built in scarcity);
...
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus

Likening an incredible inventor with an online black-market kingpin is misleading in my book.

You seem to have a reasonable grasp on the protocol... so what exactly is your question? I'm not saying I could answer it but I did provide a link to a thread where you would be best served with your technical questions.
 Quoting: GFX guy


The invention isn't as earth shattering as it is timely, as it addresses the want of anonymity and freedom beyound the constraints of dominant social mores.

The invention as my likening to the dread pirate roberts( not silk road, but princess bride(the movie) is just a way to shadow the Idea that it was a collective that designed the active tool and all the parts existed on the collective scale.

I am always more interested in tools for the freeing of conciousness over the political tools we have to recycle staid, tax deriving income to a few.


Redistribution of energies and crowd funding is as like a derivation.


Sorry for any confusion
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cia/nsa moniker given to the creator of bitcoin...

5a

burnit
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Identify the node(s) and you will see that that is a false descriptor.
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Ah... I did not see princess bride the movie.
Your metaphor went over my head in that respect.

But I share your interests otherwise. cheers
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Satoshi Nakamoto = An enigma worthy of consideration whom has generated untold billions of dollars of wealth for they who have vision and daring.
 Quoting: PIR


The wifes ex boss generated billions with a tool that tells you what happened last year. I'm not bitching mind you, but in my estimation it's not about the money, but the control.
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Ah... I did not see princess bride the movie.
Your metaphor went over my head in that respect.

But I share your interests otherwise. cheers
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And cheers to you and our collective futures.


In my estimation it's not bitcoin, but the promise of simultaneous bootstrapping of like ideas.
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Satoshi Nakamoto = An enigma worthy of consideration whom has generated untold billions of dollars of wealth for they who have vision and daring.
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The wifes ex boss generated billions with a tool that tells you what happened last year. I'm not bitching mind you, but in my estimation it's not about the money, but the control.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Or the transfer, thereof... damned
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Satoshi Nakamoto = An enigma worthy of consideration whom has generated untold billions of dollars of wealth for they who have vision and daring.
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The wifes ex boss generated billions with a tool that tells you what happened last year. I'm not bitching mind you, but in my estimation it's not about the money, but the control.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Or the transfer, thereof... damned
 Quoting: GFX guy


As they say, knowledge is power.

And preparedness makes for good eating. ;)

Cheers
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So, again, who is Satoshi Nakamoto?

A virtual non entity that makes governments tremble at the thought of the non transparency of currency and analysts somehow grapple with the Idea of a retrievable store of value within multiple systems.

A virtual and literAl nobody embodying ideals in software and multi nodal redundancy.

Cheers
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that makes governments tremble at the thought of the non transparency of currency
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the idea was, apparently, to make all transactions public. entirely, globally, ... but, separat ownership from transactions, hence the idea of digital wallets.

by the way, some researchers did dug into the public records of transactions, and found out that large amounts of the earliest mined coins were transferred to the late silk road. which makes the earliest adopters of bitcoin, if not the developpers, explicitly complicit in massive drug and arms trade.
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Satoshi = darpa employee
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that makes governments tremble at the thought of the non transparency of currency
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus
the idea was, apparently, to make all transactions public. entirely, globally, ... but, separat ownership from transactions, hence the idea of digital wallets.

by the way, some researchers did dug into the public records of transactions, and found out that large amounts of the earliest mined coins were transferred to the late silk road. which makes the earliest adopters of bitcoin, if not the developpers, explicitly complicit in massive drug and arms trade.
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bsflag

That would also apply to any paper currency only on a larger scale.

The largest drug-money launderer is HSBC... go figure.
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The original specification document was posted on a cyberphreak newsgroup in the 90s by 'Satoshi'.

All I know is...I have reviewed the source code, and its good. Damn good. Not only masterful c programming, but extraordinary knowledge of mathematics, cryptography, and algorithms. This is serious code, almost other worldly or at least military grade munitions. For one person to have come up with this, would make Einstein look like a tard.
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That would also apply to any paper currency only on a larger scale.

The largest drug-money launderer is HSBC... go figure.
 Quoting: GFX guy
well yes, true, and the biggest, longest-running dope smuggling operation is the cia. same can be said for weapons and governments...

by the way, the transactions are there: early coins were involved in silk road.
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That would also apply to any paper currency only on a larger scale.

The largest drug-money launderer is HSBC... go figure.
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well yes, true, and the biggest, longest-running dope smuggling operation is the cia. same can be said for weapons and governments...

by the way, the transactions are there: early coins were involved in silk road.
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I don't disagree with that point.

But what would a currency be if it couldn't be used to purchase the 2nd most traded commodity on the planet?
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But what would a currency be if it couldn't be used to purchase the 2nd most traded commodity on the planet?
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true again.
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that makes governments tremble at the thought of the non transparency of currency
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus
the idea was, apparently, to make all transactions public. entirely, globally, ... but, separat ownership from transactions, hence the idea of digital wallets.

by the way, some researchers did dug into the public records of transactions, and found out that large amounts of the earliest mined coins were transferred to the late silk road. which makes the earliest adopters of bitcoin, if not the developpers, explicitly complicit in massive drug and arms trade.
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bsflag

That would also apply to any paper currency only on a larger scale.

The largest drug-money launderer is HSBC... go figure.
 Quoting: GFX guy


That's fine, freedom of conciousness includes psychoactive substances for good or ill.

The only relevant game changer is as noted above, the democratization of control.

Like bitcoin, I'm not here as a lobbyist of any particular idea but the human experience.

Cheers
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Satoshi = darpa employee
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Why would they want to decentralize US capital hegemony.

Anarchists are a more likely venue and even more likely game theorists.
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Satoshi = darpa employee
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Why would they want to decentralize US capital hegemony.

Anarchists are a more likely venue and even more likely game theorists.
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it cannot stay decentralized forever.
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The original specification document was posted on a cyberphreak newsgroup in the 90s by 'Satoshi'.

All I know is...I have reviewed the source code, and its good. Damn good. Not only masterful c programming, but extraordinary knowledge of mathematics, cryptography, and algorithms. This is serious code, almost other worldly or at least military grade munitions. For one person to have come up with this, would make Einstein look like a tard.
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What can you add about nodal redundancy in the overall assymetric tact of ascribing ownership.

I've only made a cursory review, but my assumption is that the algorhythm is canted towards variable check redundancy through each node and not necessarilly central or weighted centralized servers.
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Satoshi = darpa employee
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Why would they want to decentralize US capital hegemony.

Anarchists are a more likely venue and even more likely game theorists.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


it cannot stay decentralized forever.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47638590


It can, intimidation can be displaced by multipartite agreements, but then we have internationalism, without the ability of centralization.

I do like this herring.
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Satoshi Nakamoto is the real-life John Galt.

Universe has provided a solution. Recognize your power and leave this debt-based system.
"Wealth is amassed by those who who quickly adapt to new technologies at the expense of those who didn't." - Reggie Middleton.

A supply-limited commodity, instantly transferable worldwide, person-to-person, is intrinsically and uniquely valuable.