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But government weather modification is a crazy conspiracy myth, isn't it??

Schools close in fog as China eyes artificial rain to fight pollution
[link to rt.com]

The Chinese government is contemplating the practice of ‘cloud seeding’ to disperse the county’s notorious smog, as schools have been forced to close or suspend outdoor activities in two eastern Chinese cities over hostile breathing conditions.

A ‘red alert’ for poor-quality air was raised by the government Thursday in Nanjing, the capital of the eastern Jiangsu province. Nanjing secondary and secondary classes were cancelled, while Qingdao, a coastal city in Shandong province – located just north of Nanjing – banned outdoor activities, according to Xinhua.

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Qingdao has cracked down on the burning of both leaves and rubbish as well as vehicle usage limits, and Nanjing has said that it will assert control over industrial sources of pollutants.

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According to a document released by the China Meteorological Administration, from 2015, local weather authorities will be permitted to use cloud seeding – the dispersal of substances into the air to change its composition – to disperse the country’s smog.

The process of ‘cloud seeding’ involves firing rockets containing silver iodide into clouds, instigating the formation of ice crystals from super-cooled liquids. Particles then fall as rain or snow, with the artificially induced precipitation clearing the pollution and smog below, if all goes according to plan.

While there have been programs in place since the 1950s to generate artificial rain, the idea is gaining new acceptance.

“There is indeed something to be said in favor of cloud seeding, provided it is very targeted,” Roger Stone, a climate scientist from the University of Southern Queensland in Toowoomba, Australia, told The New Scientist on Thursday.

China has previously employed the practice to disperse bad weather on important public holidays, for example, to ensure that there would be clear skies for the opening of the Beijing Olympics in 2008.

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Cloud seeding comes as a part of the government's scheme to spend 1.7 trillion yuan ($277 billion) solving the air pollution problem. The plans were announced in July this year, with the deputy mayor of Beijing also announcing a target to reduce particulate concentrations by 25 percent over the course of the next five years.



Edit to add this for the shills and debunkers:

Ok all you DEBUNKER SHILLS. Time to start admitting this shit is real!

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49560280


Here's something else for the debunkers and shills, straight from the U.S. Air Force:

Weather as a Force Multiplier:
Owning the Weather in 2025

[link to csat.au.af.mil]

Contents
Chapter
Page
Disclaimer .............................................................​.............................................................​................ii
Illustrations................................................​.............................................................​...........................iv
Tables.......................................................​.............................................................​............................iv
Acknowledgments
.............................................................​.............................................................​..... v
Executive Summary
.............................................................​.............................................................​.vi
1 Introduction .............................................................​.............................................................​............... 1
2 Required Capability...................................................​.............................................................​............ 3
Why Would We Want to Mess with the Weather?
.............................................................​........... 3
What Do We Mean by “Weather-modification”?
.............................................................​............. 4
3 System Description .............................................................​.............................................................​... 8
The Global Weather Network......................................................​................................................. 8
Applying Weather-modification to Military Operations .............................................................​ 10
4 Concept of Operations .............................................................​......................................................... 13
Precipitation .............................................................​.............................................................​..... 13
Fog........................................................​.............................................................​......................... 16
Storms
.............................................................​.............................................................​............... 18
Exploitation of “NearSpace” for Space Control .............................................................​............ 20
Opportunities Afforded by Space Weather-modification........................................​.................... 20
Communications Dominance via Ionospheric Modification
........................................................ 21
Artificial Weather.....................................................​.............................................................​..... 27
Concept of Operations Summary
.............................................................​.................................... 28
5 Investigation Recommendations .............................................................​........................................... 31
How Do We Get There From Here? .............................................................​.............................. 31
Conclusions .............................................................​.............................................................​...... 34
Appendix
Page
A Why Is the Ionosphere Important?
.............................................................​........................................ 36
B Research to Better Understand and Predict Ionospheric Effects......................................................​.. 39
C Acronyms and Definitions .............................................................​.................................................... 41
Bibliography.................................................​.............................................................​....................... 42
iv
Illustrations
Figure
Page
3-1. Global Weather Network......................................................​.............................................................​. 9
3-2.
The Military System for Weather-Modification Operations. ............................................................ 11
4-1. Crossed-Beam Approach for Generating an Artificial Ionospheric Mirror ...................................... 23
4-2. Artificial Ionospheric Mirrors Point-to-Point Communications ....................................................... 24
4-3. Artificial Ionospheric Mirror Over-the-Horizon Surveillance Concept. .......................................... 25
4-4.
Scenarios for Telecommunications Degradation .............................................................​................. 26
5-1. A
Core Competency Road Map to Weather Modification in 2025. .................................................. 32
5-2. A
Systems Development Road Map to Weather Modification in 2025............................................. 34
Tables
Table
Page
1 Operational Capabilities Matrix.......................................................​.................................................vi
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Breitbart reported on the same thing in 2006

Thread: China Using Artificial Rain to Clear Dust...Scalar?
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Great, just let that pollution soak into your water supply. Well, problem solved, time to move on.
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Great, just let that pollution soak into your water supply. Well, problem solved, time to move on.
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Good point, it was going to end up there anyway, but now will be there in concentrated doses.
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Weathertards unite! Looks like they're going mainstream with weather modification, portraying it as only used to fight pollution.

Can cloud seeding put a dent in China's smog problem?
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Authorities in China might be close to turning to cloud seeding in a bid to clear up the smog problem that's dogging the country.

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China (and other nations, including the United States) has used weather manipulation techniques in the past. Notably, around the time of the 2008 Beijing Olympics, seeding was used to coax rain showers from the skies and away from the opening ceremony.

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It's funny how these information releases are timed and choreographed throughout the media... almost as if there were a media embargo...

The AP also ran a related story at the same time, however, they mentioned not a word about cloud seeding, only about the pollution problem.



Smog at extremely hazardous levels in Shanghai
[link to hosted.ap.org]


Why all the same stories at once if not choreographed/embargoed? Did the Chinese pollution problem sneak up on them overnight? Or was the media told to run the story now?


Problem- Pollution

Reaction- "Man, this pollution sucks"

Solution- Officially government controlled weather

Re-reaction- "Yay!"
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Could China combat smog with artificial rain?
[link to www.newscientist.com]

China plans to open the heavens to bring back its blue skies.

According to local news reports, a document released by the China Meteorological Administration says that from 2015, local weather authorities will be allowed to use cloud seeding to create rain and clear the country's notorious smog. It's part of the government's plan to invest 1.7 trillion yuan ($277 billion) in tackling air pollution. But will it work?

Programmes to generate artificial rain have been running since the 1950s. In recent years, the controversial technique has gained some credibility. "There is indeed something to be said in favour of cloud seeding, provided it is very targeted," says Roger Stone, a climate scientist from the University of Southern Queensland in Toowoomba, Australia.

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However, he doubts cloud seeding will be effective in smoggy conditions. This is because smog is made of particulates of soot and dust, which should already have acted as ice nuclei. If it hasn't rained already, Siems reasons, then adding more particulates in the shape of silver iodide won't help.

Satellite data suggest China doesn't have the right atmospheric conditions for cloud seeding, Siems says. "I can pretty much confidently say they don't." And he adds that the skies over China already contain a lot of ice nuclei from factory pollution and dust from the Gobi desert.
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Back in the eighties we use to call that acid rain. LOL! It's fun watching China trying to pretend to be a super power. I mean seriously think about it, they robbed every manufacturing job in the world from other countries and now they are so polluted that they can barely breath. Be careful what you wish for China you just might get it.

lmao


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Isn't this basically cheming?
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Isn't this basically cheming?
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That's what I think.
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Isn't this basically cheming?
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Yes, a few of the articles specifically mention the seeding occurring by plane, as well as by rocket.

Seems they're spoon feeding the masses with a little info at a time, and saying it's to "fight pollution" to gain acceptance.

Funny thing is that they also quote scientists saying it won't work and will only leave silver iodide coming down in addition to all the pollution.

Did anyone else catch the part about "weather authorities"?? Is this whole thing about getting us to accept that the governments should control the weather, you know, to protect us?
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Back in the eighties we use to call that acid rain. LOL! It's fun watching China trying to pretend to be a super power. I mean seriously think about it, they robbed every manufacturing job in the world from other countries and now they are so polluted that they can barely breath. Be careful what you wish for China you just might get it.

lmao

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It's been a while since I've seen a handle name so apt to the person posting.

Enjoy your fema internship. Lol.

First up, China robbed nothing. Your company leaders chose to offshore, and you keep choosing to buy the shit. You, yes YOU...are the problem.

Pollution is a real problem. When YOU get the blame, as eventually you will when it all comes out in the wash, watch out.

I know you think it surprising that a govt chooses to notify publicly its actions and intentions (re this cloud seeding), but you also seem to think it would be better to operate in secrecy? Again, your handle suits you.

Now fuck off. Cunt.
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Yep our own people sold us out. At least I am coming across alot more people aware of it and never shop at places like Wal-Mart.

Seems like China is gonna need a new place to live pretty soon. wink wink
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Back in the eighties we use to call that acid rain. LOL! It's fun watching China trying to pretend to be a super power. I mean seriously think about it, they robbed every manufacturing job in the world from other countries and now they are so polluted that they can barely breath. Be careful what you wish for China you just might get it.

lmao

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It's been a while since I've seen a handle name so apt to the person posting.

Enjoy your fema internship. Lol.

First up, China robbed nothing. Your company leaders chose to offshore, and you keep choosing to buy the shit. You, yes YOU...are the problem.

Pollution is a real problem. When YOU get the blame, as eventually you will when it all comes out in the wash, watch out.

I know you think it surprising that a govt chooses to notify publicly its actions and intentions (re this cloud seeding), but you also seem to think it would be better to operate in secrecy? Again, your handle suits you.

Now fuck off. Cunt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51182275


When you come over to another country and corrupt our leaders with money you are robbing us citizens. The leaders here that let this happen are also complicit in this crime. When you manipulate your currency and pay your people slave wages to get corporations over there you are robbing other peoples countries.
As far as the pollution thing goes, I wasn't talking about the seeding of clouds I was talking about the rain falling with all of the pollution in the air creates what we use to call acid rain.
Best of luck!
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Back in the eighties we use to call that acid rain. LOL! It's fun watching China trying to pretend to be a super power. I mean seriously think about it, they robbed every manufacturing job in the world from other countries and now they are so polluted that they can barely breath. Be careful what you wish for China you just might get it.

lmao

 Quoting: Fema Prisoner


It's been a while since I've seen a handle name so apt to the person posting.

Enjoy your fema internship. Lol.

First up, China robbed nothing. Your company leaders chose to offshore, and you keep choosing to buy the shit. You, yes YOU...are the problem.

Pollution is a real problem. When YOU get the blame, as eventually you will when it all comes out in the wash, watch out.

I know you think it surprising that a govt chooses to notify publicly its actions and intentions (re this cloud seeding), but you also seem to think it would be better to operate in secrecy? Again, your handle suits you.

Now fuck off. Cunt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51182275



To be clear (and I know you were talking to the other poster) the point I'm trying to illustrate is that the U.S. government has been manipulating the weather in secrecy, for a very long time, via HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

What surprised me, was that the western media is now acknowledging weather modification, (even though shifting the focus to China) something it has denied all along as baseless conspiracy theory. And now they're presenting it as a new solution, even though they've used it for many nefarious reasons all along, in secrecy.
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Back in the eighties we use to call that acid rain. LOL! It's fun watching China trying to pretend to be a super power. I mean seriously think about it, they robbed every manufacturing job in the world from other countries and now they are so polluted that they can barely breath. Be careful what you wish for China you just might get it.

lmao

 Quoting: Fema Prisoner


It's been a while since I've seen a handle name so apt to the person posting.

Enjoy your fema internship. Lol.

First up, China robbed nothing. Your company leaders chose to offshore, and you keep choosing to buy the shit. You, yes YOU...are the problem.

Pollution is a real problem. When YOU get the blame, as eventually you will when it all comes out in the wash, watch out.

I know you think it surprising that a govt chooses to notify publicly its actions and intentions (re this cloud seeding), but you also seem to think it would be better to operate in secrecy? Again, your handle suits you.

Now fuck off. Cunt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51182275



To be clear (and I know you were talking to the other poster) the point I'm trying to illustrate is that the U.S. government has been manipulating the weather in secrecy, for a very long time, via HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

What surprised me, was that the western media is now acknowledging weather modification, (even though shifting the focus to China) something it has denied all along as baseless conspiracy theory. And now they're presenting it as a new solution, even though they've used it for many nefarious reasons all along, in secrecy.
 Quoting: Ag47


I wasn't going to get into all of the HAARP and chemtrail stuff. I just thought it was funny that their solution to pollution was rain. Because rain that comes down through heavily polluted areas create acid rain. Then the other poster blind sided me with global politics, but it's all good.
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Back in the eighties we use to call that acid rain. LOL! It's fun watching China trying to pretend to be a super power. I mean seriously think about it, they robbed every manufacturing job in the world from other countries and now they are so polluted that they can barely breath. Be careful what you wish for China you just might get it.

lmao

 Quoting: Fema Prisoner


It's been a while since I've seen a handle name so apt to the person posting.

Enjoy your fema internship. Lol.

First up, China robbed nothing. Your company leaders chose to offshore, and you keep choosing to buy the shit. You, yes YOU...are the problem.

Pollution is a real problem. When YOU get the blame, as eventually you will when it all comes out in the wash, watch out.

I know you think it surprising that a govt chooses to notify publicly its actions and intentions (re this cloud seeding), but you also seem to think it would be better to operate in secrecy? Again, your handle suits you.

Now fuck off. Cunt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51182275



To be clear (and I know you were talking to the other poster) the point I'm trying to illustrate is that the U.S. government has been manipulating the weather in secrecy, for a very long time, via HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

What surprised me, was that the western media is now acknowledging weather modification, (even though shifting the focus to China) something it has denied all along as baseless conspiracy theory. And now they're presenting it as a new solution, even though they've used it for many nefarious reasons all along, in secrecy.
 Quoting: Ag47


I wasn't going to get into all of the HAARP and chemtrail stuff. I just thought it was funny that their solution to pollution was rain. Because rain that comes down through heavily polluted areas create acid rain. Then the other poster blind sided me with global politics, but it's all good.
 Quoting: Fema Prisoner


Yeah, his logic is a bit flawed that it is the average citizens fault that corrupt people in corporations and government sent all the jobs off shore, creating China's pollution problem. That would be like saying it's the average Chinese citizen's fault for it's current oppressive government, or the past actions of those like Mao.

No worries though, I didn't post this to bash China, only to point out that the media is now acknowledging and justifying weather modification.
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It's nothing new to this.
We have had a fev documentarys on the subject in sweden.
On state television!
Same with the economic situation they mention it all the whole conspiracy exept putting the illuminati and reptiles in.
Also on state tv.
It depends on what country you live in.
Usa is becoming the new China.
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These fucking Chinese took mulan to far. Why don't they just make a factory that makes rain?

jjc4
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It's nothing new to this.
We have had a fev documentarys on the subject in sweden.
On state television!
Same with the economic situation they mention it all the whole conspiracy exept putting the illuminati and reptiles in.
Also on state tv.
It depends on what country you live in.
Usa is becoming the new China.
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I think you are correct, and I do remember the Russian tv station had the long documentaries about the economic conspiracies earlier this year. It is comforting to know that not all governments are absolutely corrupt, but troubling to realize that the vast majority are not only uninformed, they prefer to be distracted and remain ignorant.
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These fucking Chinese took mulan to far. Why don't they just make a factory that makes rain?

jjc4
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Haha, don't give them any ideas, the world only recently (relatively) began buying overpriced bottled water, next they'll be billing us every time it rains!
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What a great idea!

Lets not reduce pollution, lets just knock that shit right out of the air and into our water supply, genius farmer, genius.
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It's been a while since I've seen a handle name so apt to the person posting.

Enjoy your fema internship. Lol.

First up, China robbed nothing. Your company leaders chose to offshore, and you keep choosing to buy the shit. You, yes YOU...are the problem.

Pollution is a real problem. When YOU get the blame, as eventually you will when it all comes out in the wash, watch out.

I know you think it surprising that a govt chooses to notify publicly its actions and intentions (re this cloud seeding), but you also seem to think it would be better to operate in secrecy? Again, your handle suits you.

Now fuck off. Cunt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51182275



To be clear (and I know you were talking to the other poster) the point I'm trying to illustrate is that the U.S. government has been manipulating the weather in secrecy, for a very long time, via HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

What surprised me, was that the western media is now acknowledging weather modification, (even though shifting the focus to China) something it has denied all along as baseless conspiracy theory. And now they're presenting it as a new solution, even though they've used it for many nefarious reasons all along, in secrecy.
 Quoting: Ag47


I wasn't going to get into all of the HAARP and chemtrail stuff. I just thought it was funny that their solution to pollution was rain. Because rain that comes down through heavily polluted areas create acid rain. Then the other poster blind sided me with global politics, but it's all good.
 Quoting: Fema Prisoner


Yeah, his logic is a bit flawed that it is the average citizens fault that corrupt people in corporations and government sent all the jobs off shore, creating China's pollution problem. That would be like saying it's the average Chinese citizen's fault for it's current oppressive government, or the past actions of those like Mao.

No worries though, I didn't post this to bash China, only to point out that the media is now acknowledging and justifying weather modification.
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You're joking right? There is nothing flawed whatsoever in what I said.

But I'll repeat it again so you can re-read and try to comprehend. China robbed nothing. It is the company leaders who chose to offshore, so YOU could buy cheap shit.

You are the source of demand. Don't go blaming China for robbing shit when it didn't.
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Why don't they use this in Africa? If only there was a god that could help people
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To be clear (and I know you were talking to the other poster) the point I'm trying to illustrate is that the U.S. government has been manipulating the weather in secrecy, for a very long time, via HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

What surprised me, was that the western media is now acknowledging weather modification, (even though shifting the focus to China) something it has denied all along as baseless conspiracy theory. And now they're presenting it as a new solution, even though they've used it for many nefarious reasons all along, in secrecy.
 Quoting: Ag47


I wasn't going to get into all of the HAARP and chemtrail stuff. I just thought it was funny that their solution to pollution was rain. Because rain that comes down through heavily polluted areas create acid rain. Then the other poster blind sided me with global politics, but it's all good.
 Quoting: Fema Prisoner


Yeah, his logic is a bit flawed that it is the average citizens fault that corrupt people in corporations and government sent all the jobs off shore, creating China's pollution problem. That would be like saying it's the average Chinese citizen's fault for it's current oppressive government, or the past actions of those like Mao.

No worries though, I didn't post this to bash China, only to point out that the media is now acknowledging and justifying weather modification.
 Quoting: Ag47


You're joking right? There is nothing flawed whatsoever in what I said.

But I'll repeat it again so you can re-read and try to comprehend. China robbed nothing. It is the company leaders who chose to offshore, so YOU could buy cheap shit.

You are the source of demand. Don't go blaming China for robbing shit when it didn't.
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I never said China ROBBED anything, how's your comprehension? You were attacking the poster saying it was HIS fault for the corrupt government. And don't worry, we won't be the source of demand for much longer, you'll have to buy your own shit to stay afloat after western economies crash.
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I wasn't going to get into all of the HAARP and chemtrail stuff. I just thought it was funny that their solution to pollution was rain. Because rain that comes down through heavily polluted areas create acid rain. Then the other poster blind sided me with global politics, but it's all good.
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Yeah, his logic is a bit flawed that it is the average citizens fault that corrupt people in corporations and government sent all the jobs off shore, creating China's pollution problem. That would be like saying it's the average Chinese citizen's fault for it's current oppressive government, or the past actions of those like Mao.

No worries though, I didn't post this to bash China, only to point out that the media is now acknowledging and justifying weather modification.
 Quoting: Ag47


You're joking right? There is nothing flawed whatsoever in what I said.

But I'll repeat it again so you can re-read and try to comprehend. China robbed nothing. It is the company leaders who chose to offshore, so YOU could buy cheap shit.

You are the source of demand. Don't go blaming China for robbing shit when it didn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51189283



I never said China ROBBED anything, how's your comprehension? You were attacking the poster saying it was HIS fault for the corrupt government. And don't worry, we won't be the source of demand for much longer, you'll have to buy your own shit to stay afloat after western economies crash.
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You were commenting on my post which was in response to some lame accusation that it was China who "robbed" jobs etc.
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Yeah, his logic is a bit flawed that it is the average citizens fault that corrupt people in corporations and government sent all the jobs off shore, creating China's pollution problem. That would be like saying it's the average Chinese citizen's fault for it's current oppressive government, or the past actions of those like Mao.

No worries though, I didn't post this to bash China, only to point out that the media is now acknowledging and justifying weather modification.
 Quoting: Ag47


You're joking right? There is nothing flawed whatsoever in what I said.

But I'll repeat it again so you can re-read and try to comprehend. China robbed nothing. It is the company leaders who chose to offshore, so YOU could buy cheap shit.

You are the source of demand. Don't go blaming China for robbing shit when it didn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51189283



I never said China ROBBED anything, how's your comprehension? You were attacking the poster saying it was HIS fault for the corrupt government. And don't worry, we won't be the source of demand for much longer, you'll have to buy your own shit to stay afloat after western economies crash.
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You were commenting on my post which was in response to some lame accusation that it was China who "robbed" jobs etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51189283


Yes, yes I was. Judging by your flawless English, and disbelief that anyone could possibly disagree with you, do you own one of the sweatshops you defend so fiercely?
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Ok all you DEBUNKER SHILLS. Time to start admitting this shit is real!

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Re: WEATHER MODIFICATION Going Mainstream: China to Use ARTIFICIAL RAIN to Fight Pollution...Again- CLOUD SEEDING/CHEMTRAILS
Let me know if I got this right.

Problem: Chinese coal burning power plants along with decades of inadequate vehicle emission standards has polluted their skies. The Chinese people are facing significant health issues (asthmas/lung cancers)and environmental issues such as soil and water pollution.

Reaction: To "clean" the air, they are going to spray chemicals such as Al oxides into the skies to seed clouds so it rains.

Results: Temporary improvement of air quality and increased exposure to health issues Alzheimer and respiratory issues due to chemspraying.

Dumping more chemicals into the skies is not the solution. What is being done with regulations on coal burning?
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