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What's your opinion on Tomek?

 
Kay

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06/01/2006 07:08 AM
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Well, there you go, the character of Tomek!
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
Tomek
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06/01/2006 07:11 AM
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so we go
Kay

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06/01/2006 07:11 AM
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Isn't that the same religion that bombs the bejeezus out of 3rd world countries with no air force in the name of God?


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Indian, like I said to Tomek, don't be deceived. Men fight wars over booty, not religion.

Do we fight radical Islam in oil rich countries? Coincidence? I don't think so, and neither do you!!
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
Kay

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06/01/2006 07:14 AM
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You cannot get a Fundamentalist/Evangelical Christian like me to defend the Catholic Church, we broke from it hundreds of years ago and believe the Pope will lead the Antichrist.

Mostly over the rosary type teachings.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
Tomek
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06/01/2006 07:15 AM
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Isn't that the same religion
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No it is not the sdame religion

and newer will be
Tortoise  (OP)

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06/01/2006 07:16 AM
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Would like to discuss the rosary with you another time Kay. Not now though, I'm going to sleep.
Old Indian Man

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06/01/2006 07:17 AM
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Killing hundred of innocent civilians, pregnant women and children?
I suppose they were all radicals weren't they. I doubt it since I happen to know from the Iraqi people I have met here that they are not.
Your booty warriors should be a little more selective with their so called "smart bombs".
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06/01/2006 07:17 AM
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Mostly over the rosary type teachings.
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I would like to tell that Amharic church practise this way from the line of the church .

KAY do you know what word church mean ?
Anonymous Coward
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06/01/2006 07:19 AM
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Tomek:

Do you confess with your lips, that Jesus is the Christ, Son of the Living God ?

yes or no ?

?
Old Indian Man

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06/01/2006 07:22 AM
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Seems the "TEMPLE" as described in your Bible was a little misunderstood.
The temple is within you, not a building with golden bathroom fixtures and a guy standing at the door telling you to pick your child up and carry him because they don't want the carpet to get dirty.
Kay

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06/01/2006 07:23 AM
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I didnt know Kay that Jesus teached you to fight knowlage and scoff from others knowlage

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No, he didn't - and I don't scoff at others' knowledge.

However, if you think that Satan is a good guy, that he can cause this death to your friend and force you into pentagrams, cause you mental disorder, then be a good guy, well that is just nonsense and you are deceived.

Now, I know that you think you are special because you have some kind of secret knowledge but it is not true. You are being oppressed, and are even probably demon possessed - which is making you a danger to yourself and those around you. You will eventually go off the deep end if you do not repent of these acts.

It happens all the time. Death is an ugly thing, and is not from God. You need to run as fast as you can from this entity you have broken into that is so powerful - you are over your head.

You seem to think that your belief system and these incidents are unrelated but you are wrong. I know the Bible quite well and what you have fallen into is a pattern that ends up only one way. Not good.

So, why don't you call the pastor in Poland that I gave you? It is a Calvary Chapel. All you have to do is google Calvary Chapel and Poland and you will get their site. You can call and talk to him. He can help you. They are NOT Catholic.

God loves you, and He is showing that through my concern right now. Why don't you accept it? I have excellent intuition into these things (Christians call that the gift of discernment) and I am telling you that you are demonically oppressed, or possibly possessed. You need help. You are obviously hurting.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
Tomek
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you dont need to teach me who Jesus was .

Im inside the church

Jesus is Lord Caitanya
Anonymous Coward
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06/01/2006 07:24 AM
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What is Caitanya?
Anonymous Coward
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06/01/2006 07:25 AM
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Jesus is NOT Caitanya

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Tomek: I repeat:

Do you confess that Jesus is the Messiah, The Son of the Living God ?

Yes or No ?
Kay

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06/01/2006 07:25 AM
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Your booty warriors should be a little more selective with their so called "smart bombs".

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Indian man, I think it's off topic, but I am just emphasizing the fact that Christians are to give the other cheek, not smart bombs.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
Tomek
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06/01/2006 07:27 AM
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if you think that Satan is a good guy

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where I told this that Satan is a good guy

you are a swindler

beciocue I newer told this

I know the truth

but Im not going to tolk with you anymore

I came here to call for help to tortured opressed christains in this city on the way I told what to do

I have prohinited to teach you becocue you scoff from me and for example from Lord Visnu

it is inof to prohibition to tolk with you

do not go now to finde a solution to your scoffs

scoff is prohibited
Kay

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06/01/2006 07:27 AM
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KAY do you know what word church mean ?

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"Church" might mean many things to many people, but to me, the Church is the Bride of Christ, the cumulative total of all the people Christ died for, all who have believed on His name.

That is the actual New Testament definition of it.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
Optimistic Aussie from Perth

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06/01/2006 07:28 AM
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"You cannot get a Fundamentalist/Evangelical Christian like me to defend the Catholic Church, we broke from it hundreds of years ago and believe the Pope will lead the Antichrist."

blink

Your admitting to being a Fundamentalist/Evangelical Christian?

"Pope will lead the Antichrist"

..hoodwinked.
no one
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06/01/2006 07:28 AM
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Having different beliefs does not make you mad unless you happen to have been a resident of Soviet Russia (circa 1930ís -1970ís).

As far as Iím concerned I think that any well informed and intelligent adult who believes in an almighty god/deity/evil one is certifiable and I defend my right to say that under the Constitution of the United States.

However, provided they donít try and bash me over the head/force down my throat or attempt to force me to live by their beliefs, live and let live say I. Weíre all a microcosms who together make up the whole and as such we all have important contributions to make in being who and what we are.
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06/01/2006 07:29 AM
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1 John 4

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

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1 John 4

15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Tomek
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Do you confess that Jesus is the Messiah, The Son of the Living God ?
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If I told you that Jesus is Lord Caitanya so how Jesus can not be son of the God ?
Kay

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06/01/2006 07:31 AM
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You said it here:


Tomek
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6/1/2006 6:59 AM Re: What's your opinion on Tomek?

Oh I see, you think Satan and his followers are the good guys?
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yes we know this for sure they are good becoue we can feel it eweryday what they do .


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If you didn't mean this, why did you post it?

Why do you think we want you to teach us? You, who are having so much trouble?

I am not scoffing at your beliefs, you can believe Vishnu is your Savior all day long, but it is NOT Christian. It simply is NOT.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
Anonymous Coward
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06/01/2006 07:32 AM
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1 John 4

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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06/01/2006 07:33 AM
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Caitanya is a false god

a false hindu god

you are deceptive


May the Lord rebuke thee in the Name of Jesus the Christ
Tomek
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06/01/2006 07:34 AM
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I am not scoffing at your beliefs, you can believe Vishnu is your Savior all day long, but it is NOT Christian. It simply is NOT.

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just it is simpy like you can tell it why .
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06/01/2006 07:35 AM
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Listen to this chapter, online, for free:

[link to www.audio-bible.com]


1 John 4

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

19 We love him, because he first loved us.

20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
Tomek
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06/01/2006 07:37 AM
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Re: What's your opinion on Tomek?
Caitanya is a false god
a false hindu god
you are deceptive

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Imagin now people in India telling the same but replace name Caitanya with the name Jesus .


it is what your knowlage is about

I said to you I didnt came to teach you


I came here to call for help on the way I told you .
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06/01/2006 07:37 AM
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Vishnu, Visnu, and Caitanya are all false gods

an abomination

you are deceptive


May the Lord rebuke thee in the Name of Jesus the Christ
Old Indian Man

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06/01/2006 07:40 AM
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Re: What's your opinion on Tomek?
If I remember right, us Indian folk were doing just fine before you so called "Christians" stopped in to push your dogma on to us. AND I DO MEAN PUSH.

I think everyone has a right to their own belief system but I don't think it's right to shove it in everyone's face and tell them it is the only way.

It's a no win situation when it come to discussions as well. You people ARE ALWAYS RIGHT no matter what.
You are legends......in your own minds.

There is a Creator for sure. We know that but he doesn't ask for donations to build fancy churches while the poor starve to death. He doesn't threaten people with chastisement and he doesn't judge people. In fact, we don't see the Creator as a "HE". We see Creator as being of both male and female energies. Of pure Love that is unconditional. You God demands slavery through worship before you recieve ""his"" love.

You god is a false god in my opinion.
He doesn't allow you to eat from the tree of knowledge which means he has something to hide.

The serpant told on him so he got branded the bad guy.

Oh well, I hope you can sleep well knowing that your god is a murderer.
That's all I have to say about it. You may now proceed to stab me in the back.
whatever
Tomek
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you are false gods





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