What's your opinion on Tomek?

What is interesting is that there is some thought that Jesus spent many of his missing years in India. The Indians loved him.

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This is nonsense. There are no missing years. The beliefs of the Brahams are the exact opposite of those Jesus taught.

Tomek said:


it will be the end of the world if you
dont help me .

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One indication that as well as being demon possessed, he is also paranoid/schizophrenic.

How compassionate you are OP, to make a public post about some other member of this community and outright declare him insane.

He can be insane but you are evil, there is no reason to make a public post about him, we all see ourselves and judge without your need to underline anything.

just my 2c..

i don't get this at all.

Tortoise, you are putting down Tomek for hearing things? you said in your "beautiful" thread: " had no visions myself, but Our Blessed Mother spoke to me a simple message.

She said, "I love you and I want to obtain many special graces for you."

She said other things, but they are usually recalled as the situation demands."

so you "hear voices" also??

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Tomek,
have you eaten? have you slept. sincere here. you need to eat and get some sleep to keep your body healthy.

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keep "religion" out of talk as it separates peoples the most of anything i've ever heard. "religion" hurts people all over the world.

my opinion of Tomek? i like Tomek. he's studied many religions, has had his heart broken, has reached for help to others. unfortunately, many cannot understand what he's trying to say. language is a barrier at times (such as this where polish isn't in babblefish or other translators).

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Sorry, friend, but I do not understand what tomek is saying either.

It is just gobbledegook to me.
When I translated what I or someone else said, he just wrote that I am wrong.
No explanation.

There is no reasoning there at all.

Tomek is a human being. He has problems communicating because he is polish I think and we have problems understanding him.

and, I don`t think this thread is very nice

im happy you have found refuge slagging off a bloke for his lack of english skills , how many languages do you all know ?

I do not think the language is the problem. He spells many difficult words just fine. And his vocabulary is not that poor. I think the chip has a shortcut. But then again, I had to re-set my chip few times, like saying buy buy to catholicism and all others mental prisons.

One think I have to mention in behalf of Tomek: it is almost impossible to shook off the life long brainwash without any help. Polish psychologists are just as much screwed up as their patients.
And he is to busy in his head to really take a time and read SLOOOWWWLLLYYY what we are suggesting here. It is nowhere road.
Sorry.

But I pray for you Tomek, and wish you recieve a serious spiritual intervention. Soon.

As for Babel, even if it would have polish-english mode, it would not make that gibberish any more understandable.

Here is a challenge for you Tomek. Write in polish all your dillema here, ( well, not here, make another post) and I will translate it for you presuming it is possible for me to understand what you are talking about.
However, I reserve the rights to refuse to translate messages which are not inspired by light.
It screw up my mellow, as somebody said.

Just write me a letter straight from the heart.

Tutaj jest wezwanie do ciebie, Tomek:
Napisz po polsku twoje problemy tutaj, (no nie na tym czacie, zrob nowy,)
i ja przetlumacze ten list tobie na angielski, zalozywszy ze ja bede w stanie rozumiec o czym ty mowisz.
Pamietaj zas, ze ja rezerwuje prawo do wycofania sie w wypadku gdy twoje slowa nie sa inspirowane swiatlem.
To przeszkadza mi w mojej personalnej podrozy do zrozumienia swiata, Boga i zycia.

Napisz mi list prosto z twojego serca..

Good job FN!

Good job FN!

Good fuzzy job nuts.

YEAH! FN!!!!

Finally!!!!!!!


For Tomek:

There's nothing on this planet more evil or more dark than what is possible to conjure up in the Human mind. There's no evil that stands by itself on the planet. All evil is contained in the consciousness of humanity. There's no dark entity or group of entities that stands around waiting for you to slip and fall so they can take you away or capture your soul. Such stories are fear based and do not reflect the magnificence, power, or responsibility of the true Human situation.

But there is darkness, isn't there? It's created with free choice by those Humans who choose to take their consciousness to a darker or denser side. The darkest place on the planet is therefore what Humans have created by choice.

Remember this: You are creators of energy. Humans have the power to create darkness just as they create light. There's no judgment about this from anything around you, so the very elements of the planet will actually respond to this kind of energy and create the kind of dark magic that so many Humans are afraid of, and what many feel comes from some kind of dark place, or storehouse of evil. It doesn't. It comes from Humans.

Also remember: Dark and light are not equal energies. If you have a dark place and light comes in, darkness does not creep away into another dark place. Instead, it's transformed! Of the two, light is the only one that has an active component and a physical presence. You cannot "beam darkness" into a light place! It can only be the other way around. This is because they aren't equal. One is the absence of the other.

The wonderful thing is people are waking up to this fact, Semejase.

thnak you for all opinions and good words I didnt read all yet because I just came back home I had some war with our God I think maybe not, who know ?

anyway we go forward yes and yass

[email protected] have e mail to her it is the biggest our problem our group of 5 perosns here under opression becocue we have to pay for others ( first circle fellows ) ignorantion .
like christains use to pay .

the next propbelm is that it was used for another reason .

for this all years it was used to provokation of the war in the spirtual world with Big Satan ( satanist ) who was doing this to me and to them and had a fun from this .

it is good to know for thous who are the first circle that it was told to me by Jehova and Visnu that bad spirit Demon satan will go away from me just we will be togetehr with her becocue the same way how bad spirit came to me by her acts the same way spirit will go away from me by her good acts make for me .

mean love will heal me what was done to em .

OK

that inof from me

I think it was good to say this

not other thinks

still all our group is alone so anyway it is good way that they and she and many more will know about us ...

good

FearNot,
thank you so very much for that! oh, you don't know what you just did. thank you. i don't speak polish at all and even the translators i went to left my brain wondering. so, again, thank you.

I like Tomek better than Bush.

Roman - I already explained my reasons for starting this thread. I do not believe that I was motivated by evil, but by love. Go back and read my much longer explanation for this and address the points that I made there. Then I will be happy to discuss our differences in a rational manner. But I am not going to respond further to ad hominem attacks from you or others who simply read the first line of this thread and make an unjust judgment from that alone.

Salimandr - You too should read my other posts in this thread. Then you will realize that my assessment of Tomek is not based solely upon his "visions". There are many other differences between my experiences in Medjugorje and his nonsense as well. For example, I don't hijack every thread I post in with my experience. Another example is that my experience in Medjugorje is mirrored by the experiences of hundreds of thousands of people who have visited their over the last 25 years, whereas his seems to be locked in his own mind. (Note I said "seems" before you start accusing me of being judgmental.)

What I am doing here is telling people that if they engage Tomek they risk being drained physically, mentally, and spiritually. If you would like to have a discussion about Medjugorje I will be happy to oblige, but please don't misrepresent my reasons and intentions for posting this thread.

Thank you Fearnot for giving it a go.


And Acid(name suites you btw)
Nobody is trying to "slag him off" for his language skills. It is an obvious barrier and has been for a long time.
Tomek WANTS us to understand what he is trying to say. In order for anybody to help him correctly then a bridge between the language barrier must be built. Or would you rather he continue to plea for help from people who cannot understand?
It is not a slight against Tomek as a human being at all. For anybody to be able to help him, then understanding what he needs help with would be prudent don't you think?
If you were in a foreign country and had people not understanding you, would your first thought not be to find somebody who can speak both yours and the native fluently enough to translate for you?
How is that "slagging him off"?

>>How is that "slagging him off"?<<

lets start on page 1 , now read downwards

as for "acid" , thanks , i speak my mind without remorse for other poeples feelings - honesty is the best policy and you are all just text on my tv so why should i give much a shit :)

Like fearnot, I believe that Tomek does indeed know English better than he lets on. How else do you explain his repetitive mispellings even when they are corrected by others. I have seen in other threads at least 4 instances of people correcting his use of "becocue". Also, when I first engaged him he continued to refer to me as Turtise, even though the proper spelling of my id was right their with every one of my posts.

From this I conclude either:

1)He knows English better than he reveals but is playing us with his incoherence

or

2)He is so sure that he is right about everything that he refuses to even acknowledge that a native English speaker can know something that he does not about their own language.

In one case he is being manipulative, in the other deluded.

I may be missing something and will gladly entertain alternative suggestions.

English is not the first language for me too but even if I still have difficulties to express myself on certain topics I tried to read posts and watch how the native people express themselves.
If I am right then Tomek is already here on this forum for a year at least so he should be able to speak a bit more clear but for strange reasons he refuses to really make sense.

So I rather suspect for whatever reasons it's just a game for him.

He looks like charles manson and speaks in the same riddles....perhaps he has manson blood...

Here is a pic of him:
[link to pub47.bravenet.com]

[link to www.karwno.webpark.pl]

This is a link that Tomek gave me when I first tried to help him. There is a great deal of Polish here, presumably written by him. Can you interpret some of this FEARNOT?

tomek is bill oddie !


goodie goodie gum drops :P

For heaven's sakes don't click on that link....the KGB might show up on your doorstep.....

Tortoise,
so sorry if posting what you said in your thread, stepped on your toes. i just don't see the difference between one claiming to hear a "voice" and another claiming to hear a "voice". do that many really claim to hear voices after being there? good place to stay away from it seems.

i do want to thank you for posting Tomek's site and asking to have it translated some as i sure don't know what it says in polish.

73941,
would be different, wouldn't it? are they better or worse than the fbi?

[link to pub47.bravenet.com]