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The Mayan Long Count formula decoded at last!

 
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I believe I found a confirmation that the Mayan Long Count of 1872000 days have to do with the alignments of Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, and the Moon with respect to the Earth and the Sun. (The Moon is included in the alignment as the calendar should start on a new Moon).

But first keep in mind that the Mayans as well as the Aztecs divided the precession of the equinoxes into 5 periods, corresponding to 5 suns/worlds/creations:
The term Five Suns in the context of creation myths, describes the doctrine of the Aztec and other Nahua peoples in which the present world was preceded by four other cycles of creation and destruction. It is primarily derived from the mythological, cosmological and eschatological beliefs and traditions of earlier cultures from central Mexico and the Mesoamerican region in general
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: wikipedia


Why divide the precession of the equinoxes into 5 equal periods? Because the pentagram is sacred to the Mayans as this is the image traced by the successive inferior conjunctions of Venus with Earth.
[link to www.freemasonry.bcy.ca]

The Long Count calculated by the Mayans was such that in every alignment of Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, and the Moon every 1872000 days, Venus alternates from being in inferior conjunction (Venus is between Earth and the Sun) and in superior conjunction (Sun is between Venus and the Earth).

Now here is the formula for the Long Count used by the Mayans:

Long count = (Jupiter/5)(0.5Venus/5)(Mercury/5)(Moon/5)

where Jupiter = 4332.590 days orbital period
Venus = 224.701 days orbital period
Mercury = 87.969 days orbital period
Moon = 27.322 days orbital period

Venus orbital period was multiplied by 0.5 or by one half to make Venus's position in the alignment to alternate from inferior conjunction to superior conjunction.

All the orbital period were divided by 5 to make the alignment point to 5 different positions in the celestial sphere, thereby tracing a pentagram.

Long count = (4332.590/5)(0.5*224.701/5)(87.969/5)(27.322/5)

Long Count = 1871908.9780791

now compare this to the actual Mayan value of 1872000.

The difference is only -91.0219209 days or -0.004862282099359% error!

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On January 1, 2014, we will see the next alignment of Jupiter, Venus, Mercury and the Moon, signifying that the current Mayan Long Count is about to end and a new one is about to begin:

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

Use the website above to see the alignment yourself, by clicking on UTC button and entering the date 2014-01-01 11:54:00

The previous alignment occurred on UTC -3113-09-24 21:04:00.

Last Edited by The Final Revelator on 12/07/2013 07:28 PM
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The Mayan Long Count is at most a good approximation on when Jupiter, Venus, and Mercury makes an alignment on a new Moon.

I know this because I found the 3 dates on which this alignment occurs, and they are separated by exactly 1872357 days!

Agaain, use the following website to see these alignments:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

After clicking on the UTC button and entering the date, take note of the corresponding Julian date written beside the Julian date button.

The dates are:
-3113-09-24 21:02:00 UTC, Julian Date 584301.37639
2014-01-01 11:53:30 UTC, Julian Date 2456658.99549
7140-05-06 05:52:00 UTC, Julian Date 4329016.74444

Now notice the difference between the 3 different Julian dates:

2456658.99549 - 584301.37639 = 1872357.6191
4329016.74444 - 2456658.99549 = 1872357.74895

This means the true period for every occurrence of a Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignment on a new Moon is 1872357 days!

The difference between this period from the Mayan Long Count is 1872357 - 1872000 = 357 days.
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something new to WASTE your time on.

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something new to WASTE your time on.
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Time is never wasted, only allocated.

Noting that, it is a better use of time crunching math versus playing video games or watching tv.


Your comment is way off base.
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something new to WASTE your time on.
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Time is never wasted, only allocated.

Noting that, it is a better use of time crunching math versus playing video games or watching tv.


Your comment is way off base.
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All his math is wrong
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The Mayan Long Count is at most a good approximation on when Jupiter, Venus, and Mercury makes an alignment on a new Moon.

I know this because I found the 3 dates on which this alignment occurs, and they are separated by exactly 1872357 days!

Agaain, use the following website to see these alignments:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

After clicking on the UTC button and entering the date, take note of the corresponding Julian date written beside the Julian date button.

The dates are:
-3113-09-24 21:02:00 UTC, Julian Date 584301.37639
2014-01-01 11:53:30 UTC, Julian Date 2456658.99549
7140-05-06 05:52:00 UTC, Julian Date 4329016.74444

Now notice the difference between the 3 different Julian dates:

2456658.99549 - 584301.37639 = 1872357.6191
4329016.74444 - 2456658.99549 = 1872357.74895

This means the true period for every occurrence of a Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignment on a new Moon is 1872357 days!

The difference between this period from the Mayan Long Count is 1872357 - 1872000 = 357 days.
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Fascinating...Now this 357 days,is this the year 0 that some say was not taking into account in that December 21,2012 = December 21,2013 or January 1,2014 maybe due to adding an extra day in February every four years...?
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To Murder time is to Murder Success... I once read this... ever see Ground Hog Day?

something new to WASTE your time on.
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Time is never wasted, only allocated.

Noting that, it is a better use of time crunching math versus playing video games or watching tv.


Your comment is way off base.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


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THIS MEANS....


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I chose the New Moon as a logical beginning of the Long Count period, because almost all calendars start on a new Moon.

However upon further reflection, I realized it is easier for the Mayans to determine the Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignment on a full Moon.

The reason is, they can easily tell Jupiter is in opposition with the Sun (Earth between Jupiter and the Sun) whenever Jupiter is in close conjunction to a full Moon (Earth is exactly between the Moon and the Sun). Also, Jupiter is at its brightest whenever it is in opposition to the Sun.

Since Venus and Mercury are both inner planets, they can be observed only as conjunctions with the Sun and never as oppositions with the Sun.

So the Mayans will know that the Long Count period will restart, whenever they see Jupiter is in close conjunction with the full Moon, and whenever Venus and Mercury are in close conjunction with the Sun.

Because of this, I believe the following are the start of several Long Counts marking several new Ages and/or new Suns on a full Moon:

-3113-10-10 6:13:20 UT 584286.92569 JD (October 10, 3114 BC)
2014-01-16 6:58:30 UT 2456673.79062 JD
7140-05-21 2:34:00 UT 4329031.60694 JD
12266-08-21 8:51:18 UT 6201356.86896 JD

January 16, 2014 (full Moon) is when Earth will be double dusted by ISON's debris trail, and I predict the 3 days of darkness to occur on this period, as well as the destruction of the current world to give birth to a new world:

In the creation myths which were preserved by the Aztec and other Nahua peoples, the central tenet was that there had been four worlds, or "Suns", before the present universe. These earlier worlds and their inhabitants had been created, then destroyed by the catastrophic action of leading deity figures. The present world is the fifth sun, and the Aztec saw themselves as "the People of the Sun," whose divine duty was to wage cosmic war in order to provide the sun with his tlaxcaltiliztli ("nourishment"). Without it, the sun would disappear from the heavens. Thus the welfare and the very survival of the universe depended upon the offerings of blood and hearts to the sun.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: wikipedia


The illuminati are aware of the need to make human sacrifices at the end of the current Sun in order to give birth to the new Sun, and they will do this in the form of a very devastating world war and/or man-made plagues!
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I chose the New Moon as a logical beginning of the Long Count period, because almost all calendars start on a new Moon.

However upon further reflection, I realized it is easier for the Mayans to determine the Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignment on a full Moon.

The reason is, they can easily tell Jupiter is in opposition with the Sun (Earth between Jupiter and the Sun) whenever Jupiter is in close conjunction to a full Moon (Earth is exactly between the Moon and the Sun). Also, Jupiter is at its brightest whenever it is in opposition to the Sun.

Since Venus and Mercury are both inner planets, they can be observed only as conjunctions with the Sun and never as oppositions with the Sun.

So the Mayans will know that the Long Count period will restart, whenever they see Jupiter is in close conjunction with the full Moon, and whenever Venus and Mercury are in close conjunction with the Sun.

Because of this, I believe the following are the start of several Long Counts marking several new Ages and/or new Suns on a full Moon:

-3113-10-10 6:13:20 UT 584286.92569 JD (October 10, 3114 BC)
2014-01-16 6:58:30 UT 2456673.79062 JD
7140-05-21 2:34:00 UT 4329031.60694 JD
12266-08-21 8:51:18 UT 6201356.86896 JD

January 16, 2014 (full Moon) is when Earth will be double dusted by ISON's debris trail, and I predict the 3 days of darkness to occur on this period, as well as the destruction of the current world to give birth to a new world:

In the creation myths which were preserved by the Aztec and other Nahua peoples, the central tenet was that there had been four worlds, or "Suns", before the present universe. These earlier worlds and their inhabitants had been created, then destroyed by the catastrophic action of leading deity figures. The present world is the fifth sun, and the Aztec saw themselves as "the People of the Sun," whose divine duty was to wage cosmic war in order to provide the sun with his tlaxcaltiliztli ("nourishment"). Without it, the sun would disappear from the heavens. Thus the welfare and the very survival of the universe depended upon the offerings of blood and hearts to the sun.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: wikipedia


The illuminati are aware of the need to make human sacrifices at the end of the current Sun in order to give birth to the new Sun, and they will do this in the form of a very devastating world war and/or man-made plagues!
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Here is the close Venus and Mercury conjunction with the Sun, and Venus in superior conjunction, on
-3113-10-10 6:13:20 UT 584316.75926 JD equivalent to October 10, 3114 BC:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

The close Jupiter conjunction with the full Moon, on the same date:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]


Exactly 1872357.03136 days after this date, the next alignment and start of a new Age will occur on
2014-01-16 6:58:30 UT 2456673.79062 JD

Here is the close Venus and Mercury conjunction with the Sun, and Venus in inferior conjunction, on this date:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

And here is the close Jupiter conjunction with the full Moon, on the same date:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]


Exactly 1872357.81632 days after this date, the next alignment and start of a new Age will occur on
7140-05-21 2:34:00 UT 4329031.60694

Here is the close Venus and Mercury conjunction with the Sun, and Venus in superior conjunction, on this date:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

And here is the close Jupiter conjunction with the full Moon, on the same date:
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

This means that the number of days between each alignment is 1872357 days.
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So... like... do I have to worry about the world ending again?

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By the way, my Long Count start date of -3113-10-10 6:13:20 equivalent to October 10, 3114 BC is just 2 months later than the generally accepted Long Count start date of August 11, 3114 BC.
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So... like... do I have to worry about the world ending again?

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Yes, I really think so.
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By the way, my Long Count start date of -3113-10-10 6:13:20 equivalent to October 10, 3114 BC is just 2 months later than the generally accepted Long Count start date of August 11, 3114 BC.
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And both these dates occur on a full Moon.
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The Mayan Long Count of 1872000 days equivalent to 5125.167 years is 1 year short of 1872357 days equivalent to 5126.145 years which is the more accurate period of each successive Jupiter-Venus-Mercury-Moon alignment.

And this is why the Mayan calendar end date of December 21, 2012 is one year earlier than the actual end date of January 16, 2014.
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On January 1, 2014, we will see the next alignment of Jupiter, Venus, Mercury and the Moon, signifying that the current Mayan Long Count is about to end and a new one is about to begin:

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

Use the website above to see the alignment yourself, by clicking on UTC button and entering the date 2014-01-01 11:54:00

The previous alignment occurred on UTC -3113-09-24 21:04:00.
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Will you Mayan tards please make your mind up. First the end of the calendar was 21st Dec 201 and then 16th Dec 2013. Now you are saying it's 2014.
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On January 1, 2014, we will see the next alignment of Jupiter, Venus, Mercury and the Moon, signifying that the current Mayan Long Count is about to end and a new one is about to begin:

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

Use the website above to see the alignment yourself, by clicking on UTC button and entering the date 2014-01-01 11:54:00

The previous alignment occurred on UTC -3113-09-24 21:04:00.
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


Will you Mayan tards please make your mind up. First the end of the calendar was 21st Dec 201 and then 16th Dec 2013. Now you are saying it's 2014.
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Excuse me stupid person, but where did I say the Mayan calendar ends on December 21, 2012 or December 16, 2013?
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The Mayan Long Count of 1872000 days equivalent to 5125.167 years is 1 year short of 1872357 days equivalent to 5126.145 years which is the more accurate period of each successive Jupiter-Venus-Mercury-Moon alignment.

And this is why the Mayan calendar end date of December 21, 2012 is one year earlier than the actual end date of January 16, 2014.
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January 1, or 16 - which date is accurate?
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are we there yet

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are we there yet




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isn't it called the Moran Long Count formula??

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