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UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".

 
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Looks gray to me.

[link to p4.img.cctvpic.com]

And look! Stars!
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bsflagbsflag

The "exposure" explanation dies here:

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weirdo But, but, but....
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Seeing the stars with your eyes and taking a picture are two different things. Go try it for yourself. try taking a picture of a streetlight at night and see if the stars show up your picture.
 Quoting: Paige


Yet the lack of lunar atmosphere would allow the camera to catch a faint bright of stars in the background, as we can see in 45 yo pictures taken by the Russian Lunokhod rover:

[link to g41i.img-up.net]
[link to k64i.img-up.net]

You want me to believe that Russians photographed stars in the lunar sky with analogical cameras half century ago and modern hi-res digital can't do it???
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The exposure explanation does not die there. The dynamic range of the sensor and exposure time, and brightness of the stars in the background are all part of the equation -- your junior high level thinking is insufficient.

Thanks again for lowering the overall IQ of the US -- you are what makes this country formerly great.
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If I can see a few stars from the brightest part of the city on a full moon night with the atmosphere and the pollution of the city reflecting even more light, then I find it exceptionally hard to believe that not a single star is visible in pictures from the moon. I'm no expert, but it just seems unreasonable.
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What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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What I don't see are striation lines radiating outward from under the lander. A rocket engine is running as it lands.
That's alot of blast effect, that left no evidence.
I'm calling this one BOGUS. Farting ki
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To everyone bitching about stars not being visible -- stars aren't visible in space

Our atmosphere makes starlight visible; stars are generally invisible from space to the wavelength we know as "visible" light, hence the reason for infrared on Hubble, etc
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bsflagbsflag

"Can You See Stars in Space?
Is it true that in space a person is not able to see stars all around them like we do here on Earth?

No, I hear that in space the stars look wonderful, bright (although not twinkling) and very clear. What has probably caused some of this confusion is that in the typical photo or video image from space, there aren't any stars. This is because the stars are much dimmer than the astronaut, Moon, space station, or whatever the image is been taken of. It is extremely hard to get the exposure correct to show the stars. Luckily, the human eye handles the different light levels much better than a camera does.

Dr. Eric Christian
(July 2001)
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Startard.
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To everyone bitching about stars not being visible -- stars aren't visible in space

Our atmosphere makes starlight visible; stars are generally invisible from space to the wavelength we know as "visible" light, hence the reason for infrared on Hubble, etc
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Where did you hear that?? It's total bs, but I'm interested in the source of such silliness.
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The only way to see stars in space is with a total or majority absence of reflected light, whether it's earth or lunar or any other planetary body

Read astronaut accounts... they are all over the place, but the pictures don't lie

Any ambient light seems sufficient to "blot" out stars in the vacuum.. you need darkness or the correct optical configuration, hence the use of infrared
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Its partially true the excuse of the camera exposure about the total lack of stars in all the lunar "missions".

C'on...


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Not fake, never was. If anything they don't like what they found and don't want to tell you about it. ahhh
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The only way to see stars in space is with a total or majority absence of reflected light, whether it's earth or lunar or any other planetary body

Read astronaut accounts... they are all over the place, but the pictures don't lie

Any ambient light seems sufficient to "blot" out stars in the vacuum.. you need darkness or the correct optical configuration, hence the use of infrared
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I heard you can't see the Sun in space. I mean, there's so much more darkness than light out in space that it just sucks up all the light the Sun emits.

You can only see the Sun from Earth because it heats up the atmosphere causing it to brighten.


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I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?

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I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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ok. so in this picture,


[link to n37i.img-up.net]

you are facing it head on with the white satellite facing you. and the right wing is pointed down

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING A REFLECTION.


Now, in this picture


[link to i26i.img-up.net]


you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You're right, the reflection should be on the opposite side. Weird!
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I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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UPDATE:

China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised.


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration.

Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging.
 Quoting: [link to english.cntv.cn]


LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week.

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UPDATE:


IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] )


This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images.

But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction.


IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] )


wtf

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UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


 Quoting: Ford Prefect

Next shot I want the RC Rover,yea the small one. Quite on the set,Roll camera...In Five,Four,3,2,1 Action.
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...LONG LIVE TECHNICOLOR ! SAME SHIT COLOURS LIKE THE 9/11 EVENT ..F THEM and F their mama`s and their race , all is a F Blsht FAKEE !!!!

..god dammed we will stuck with this illuminati hommo`s forever , humans a banch of retards sheeps !..they doin`the right thing controling and manipulating us ! WE DESERVE THIS !!
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I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42799151


Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
 Quoting: Rekrov


Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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So looking at the sky from the Moon, with all that albedo, means the same thing to you as looking at the sky while in space on a spacewalk or from within a shuttle, spacestation, or capsule?

You are the one who said you can't see stars from space, not that you can't see stars from the moon. Just a wee bit of a difference, Mr. Smarty Pants.

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I think all the moon anomalies scare the shit out of people because it is so familiar. They desperately want to believe everything is ok and normal so they can feel safe.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


Keep up with your posts. The people convinced one way or the other will never change their minds because they cannot change the way their minds work.


Providing "alternative" information for open minded people is what it's all about.

Funny how those with the heaviest prejudices compulsively stomp all over any opposite point of view regardless of evidence.
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I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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What the hell would Neil Armstrong know about what you can see or not see from the lunar surface?
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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42799151



"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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What the hell would Neil Armstrong know about what you can see or not see from the lunar surface?
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UPDATE:

China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised.


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration.

Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging.
 Quoting: [link to english.cntv.cn]


LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week.

------------------------

UPDATE:


IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] )


This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images.

But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction.


IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] )


wtf

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UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


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well, Kubrick no longer is with us, so that's all you get.. same w mainstream cinema, imo… all we got now is a bunch of hacks who pretend to be artists...
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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42799151



"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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What the hell would Neil Armstrong know about what you can see or not see from the lunar surface?
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hesright
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You are the one who said you can't see stars from space, not that you can't see stars from the moon. Just a wee bit of a difference, Mr. Smarty Pants.

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Allow me to clarify -- according to what is "known" via the pictures from near-space (orbit) and the lunar surface (Apollo missions), stars are unseen in normal, visible wavelengths... astronauts are conspicuously split on this
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Looks gray to me.

[link to p4.img.cctvpic.com]

And look! Stars!
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Your sarcasm sucks. Lol.
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Its real, they have a ground penetrating radar on it to look for rare minerals. They think the area they are checking out is full of minerals. The race to mine the moon is starting.
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This is very plausible.. It's 2013 people.. NOT the 60's.
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I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
 Quoting: Rekrov


Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface.
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UPDATE:

China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised.


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration.

Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging.
 Quoting: [link to english.cntv.cn]


LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week.

------------------------

UPDATE:


IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] )


This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images.

But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction.


IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] )


wtf

----------------------------------------------------

UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

------------------------------------------------------

Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


 Quoting: Ford Prefect


So many erroneous assumptions...

Dish appears in the photos to be pointing off camera... where the Earth is and why it wouldn't be seen. In the one photo where you claim it is pointing to black sky it is actually pointing back at the camera.

Unless you can show the sky was blackened like in our own fake moon landing photos... this proves nothing as the light hitting and reflecting off the moon's surface is more then enough to drown out star light... how well can you see the stars from a brightly lite city?

Really people. You got to use some common sense... I know you all want everythign to be some sort of conspiracy... but is it really that implausable that a fairly technologically advanced nation managed to put a rover on the moon? ...that's not necessarily all that hard. What is hard... actually impossible with conventional technology ...is putting a man on the moon... or any animal whatsoever as the lead shielding required to protect from the van allen belt would add way too much weight to make the trip.
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UPDATE:

China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised.


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


IMAGE ( [link to p1.img.cctvpic.com] )


The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration.

Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging.
 Quoting: [link to english.cntv.cn]


LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week.

------------------------

UPDATE:


IMAGE ( [link to p4.img.cctvpic.com] )


This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images.

But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction.


IMAGE ( [link to p2.img.cctvpic.com] )


wtf

----------------------------------------------------

UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

------------------------------------------------------

Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


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Made in China. I'll give another week before it breaks.
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both the us and china moon missions were both filmed in underground planetariums . the first one shot in black and white and china's in color .





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