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UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".

 
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Its real, they have a ground penetrating radar on it to look for rare minerals. They think the area they are checking out is full of minerals. The race to mine the moon is starting.
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the moon is made up of one element .
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
I heard you can't see the Sun in space.

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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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that's almost as bad as > we have to pass the bill to see whats in it .
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Its real, they have a ground penetrating radar on it to look for rare minerals. They think the area they are checking out is full of minerals. The race to mine the moon is starting.
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the moon is made up of one element .
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cheese?
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I have not seen any images that are believable yet.
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Its real, they have a ground penetrating radar on it to look for rare minerals. They think the area they are checking out is full of minerals. The race to mine the moon is starting.
 Quoting: centrist77
the moon is made up of one element .
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cheese?

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With the progress made in special effects, I am really looking forward to a new era in Sci-fi Chinese cinema.

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With the progress made in special effects, I am really looking forward to a new era in Sci-fi Chinese cinema.

5a
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Expect something like 70's Dr Who.
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Who has implanted such a wild notion in your script?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
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The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface.
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To everyone bitching about stars not being visible -- stars aren't visible in space

Our atmosphere makes starlight visible; stars are generally invisible from space to the wavelength we know as "visible" light, hence the reason for infrared on Hubble, etc
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Of course it is? :)

Why would you be able to see the Earth from the Moon if star light was invisible in space?
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Why would it be the last time?
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
Go out in a clear night and take a quick, fast shutter pic of the stars. Bet they don't show up hardly. Now do it while standing on a floor made of pure 60 watt light bulbs as well and by none of them show up. The light pollution if the sun reflecting off the moon must be huge. Now if there were a lander on the dark side of the moon I would be suspicious if you couldn't see the stars, especially if it were a longer exposure.
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
 Quoting: Rekrov


The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50582001


bsflag


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Posting an interview of astronauts who have never been on the moon is proof of what exactly?
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...not sure what your point is anyways after watching it... one says they saw stars but couldn't remember what constellations and another says they couldn't see any... your BS flag seems to be contrary to the statement you were attempting to make...
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Has anyone noticed how brown the soil is and when we went everything was shades of gray?
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Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42799151



"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
 Quoting: Rekrov


The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50582001


bsflag


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Ok genius.. If they can fabricate a moon landing, what's stopping them from adding a couple stars to the mix...
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To everyone bitching about stars not being visible -- stars aren't visible in space

Our atmosphere makes starlight visible; stars are generally invisible from space to the wavelength we know as "visible" light, hence the reason for infrared on Hubble, etc
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Of course it is? :)

Why would you be able to see the Earth from the Moon if star light was invisible in space?
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The stars are very far away and the only light that reaches us from them comes from a very small percentage of photons that happen to be on sufficiently parallel paths to have gotten from the Point A (the star) to Point B (the observer on Earth). The parallel path thing means that the starlight is focused like a cheap laser, which then scatters somewhat when it hits atmosphere and makes the star appear bigger.

Try this with a cheap laser pointer...point it at the ground and it makes a little dot. Point it at a distant object and it appears larger. Same thing.

In space, without atmospheric lensing, all of the light falls on that really small beam-path, which may or may not be above the imaging resolution of the eye or device.

The sun, however, is close, and the Earth and Moon are close, so there isn't the "point source" phenomenon which is due to distance. Proximity paints a larger footprint on the viewing field, and thus there is a larger apparent area from which photons are emitted or reflected. Less distance also means less scatter, so you can see them quite clearly.

My only real observation on the photo reflections from the rover at issue was that the ground must be very flat for the reflection not to ripple or contain changing shadow areas representing high points and dimples in the surface. That seems a bit suspect.
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Ok genius.. If they can fabricate a moon landing, what's stopping them from adding a couple stars to the mix...
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Because it was way simple to rigged up the whole stuff.



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putin

Here we go again. The Moontards have returned. Let me guess Stanley Kubrick directed this one too right? Oh wait, hes dead.
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moontard = isontard? same species?
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Hybrids maybe
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"We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics."
Neil Armstrong
 Quoting: Rekrov


The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50582001


bsflag


 Quoting: Ford Prefect


Ok genius.. If they can fabricate a moon landing, what's stopping them from adding a couple stars to the mix...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50582001


Faking a moon landing in the '60s, when dual/quadricore home computers and powerful software of image/video analysis were not around and conspiracy theories were unthinkable to the average Joe, is ONE thing, faking a moon landing in 2013 with all this technology available and smartass conspiritards multiplying like rats, is ANOTHER entirely different animal.

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putin

Here we go again. The Moontards have returned. Let me guess Stanley Kubrick directed this one too right? Oh wait, hes dead.
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moontard = isontard? same species?
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Hybrids maybe
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Shilltards belong to which species???

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Where are the fucking pictures??????????
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^^^ this.

Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc.

:)
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1st official snapshot by the lander's camera.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait.

5a
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There's a skull sticking out of the dirt? Top center off the picture.

damned
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lol It's a graveyard! skulburn
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Has anyone noticed how brown the soil is and when we went everything was shades of gray?
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The colors were made to look black and white(on the movie set) as that is how the moon appears at a distance. color loss at a distance is known light phenomenon...



just as they red shifted mars in earlier footage so it met our expectations of it being a red planet ...when reality is it looks a lot like some of our deserts as we can better see in newer footage.

The mere fact that is does look different and we can see color lends further evidence to it being a genuine landing.
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If they are going to land something on the moon for people to see, why don't they just load that lander with a huge laser strobe light to flash back at earth? You may be able to see that with a good telescope.
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
The problem here is that the shills are trying to make the Chinese moon hoax exclusively about the issue of stars in the lunar sky, but I don't see ANY of them addressing the discrepancy in the shadows of both the lander and the rover, which still pretty much the same all over the week, regardless from where their pictures were taken by each other.

[link to n24i.img-up.net]
[link to i22i.img-up.net]

The lander pictures are more weird, because the rover took one in front and other from behind, and the lander's shadow points toward the same direction anyway.

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Observers that have left the Earths atmosphere and view with their eyes all report that there are no stars. One of the latest is the guy who jumped from the edge of space to set the free fall record. When he climb out of his capsule to jump he said, I can't believe how dark it is up here and there are no stars.
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
Observers that have left the Earths atmosphere and view with their eyes all report that there are no stars. One of the latest is the guy who jumped from the edge of space to set the free fall record. When he climb out of his capsule to jump he said, I can't believe how dark it is up here and there are no stars.
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Are any video footage of that dude sayn that?

tnx


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Yes
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Panoramas of Chang'e-3's landing zone unveiled
(Xinhua) 09:48, December 21, 2013
[link to english.peopledaily.com.cn]

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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
The problem here is that the shills are trying to make the Chinese moon hoax exclusively about the issue of stars in the lunar sky, but I don't see ANY of them addressing the discrepancy in the shadows of both the lander and the rover, which still pretty much the same all over the week, regardless from where their pictures were taken by each other.

[link to n24i.img-up.net]
[link to i22i.img-up.net]

The lander pictures are more weird, because the rover took one in front and other from behind, and the lander's shadow points toward the same direction anyway.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


The Moon does not rotate as does the Earth. It is tidally locked and the same face always presents itself to the Earth. The reason the shadows are not changing much is because the orientation of that surface of the moon to the sun has not changed much since landing.

So the Moon to us appears to be going from East to West when it is visible, but that is due to the fact that the Earth is rotating under it. It is sitting out there basking in the Sunshine with a slow orbit of about a MOOONTH, so the sun will shine at the same angle on the same area for quite a while.


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^^^ this.

Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc.

:)
 Quoting: Free Planet 44675633


1st official snapshot by the lander's camera.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait.

5a
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


There's a skull sticking out of the dirt? Top center off the picture.

damned
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lol It's a graveyard! skulburn
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