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UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".

 
Ford Prefect  (OP)

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Are you the real Ford Prefect ? I would have expect more of you after your critique of the Indian Mars Mission !
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Yes the authentic ford prefect, the only shill that received a good load of red karma cruise
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If I were a shill I would be loaded with green karma moron.
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12/15/2013 11:38 AM
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Why didn't they make it perform a laser light show that can be seen on earth?
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


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Wow looks different !!-- where's all the "grey sand"
from the faked 1969 landing??
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12/15/2013 11:45 AM
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
So another country has decided to fake moon landings. Why not? The precedent was set long ago. Of course the Chinese will never point the camera at the stars to prove they are there. The funny thing is that NASA can never dispute the Chinese's claim. No matter how fake and different it looks - NASA can only grin and bear it.
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12/15/2013 11:48 AM
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
ok. so in this picture,


[link to n37i.img-up.net]

you are facing it head on with the white satellite facing you. and the right wing is pointed down

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING A REFLECTION.


Now, in this picture


[link to i26i.img-up.net]


you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!





WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's not the same reflection because the rover turned around 360° so that the lander could snap the Chinese flag. That's a reflection of the OTHER panel, but I still don't get what's causing that reflection and why the other metallic parts are not reflecting as well.
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yeah, but how do you get the same reflection regardless of where its coming from when one wing is bent and the other is not, yet the reflection is the exact same size and in the same position?
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12/15/2013 11:54 AM
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The Chinese moon looks very different from the American moon. Craters, for example. There are craters everywhere and the dirt is quite different. It is red and does not seem to make tracks, as you'd expect.
Why did the Chinese set up a control room exactly like Houston (1969)?
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[link to oi43.tinypic.com]

the angles seem to line up to one far away light source

that weird reflection is that light source shining through the gap between the lander and the solar panels, and casting a reflection off it at a perfect angle really.

i would have thought if the light source was closer, as in a studio, you'd notice the angles are off, but they don't seem to be.
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[link to oi43.tinypic.com]

the angles seem to line up to one far away light source

that weird reflection is that light source shining through the gap between the lander and the solar panels, and casting a reflection off it at a perfect angle really.

i would have thought if the light source was closer, as in a studio, you'd notice the angles are off, but they don't seem to be.
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the arrow point to the reflection source, it doesn't have the same thing on the other side to reflect the exact same reflection on the ground....


[link to i26i.img-up.net]
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bump
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12/15/2013 12:13 PM
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So another country has decided to fake moon landings. Why not? The precedent was set long ago. Of course the Chinese will never point the camera at the stars to prove they are there. The funny thing is that NASA can never dispute the Chinese's claim. No matter how fake and different it looks - NASA can only grin and bear it.
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Stanley Kubrik probably directed this one too?

Idiot
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What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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best question
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Another moon-landing-fake.
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Seems to me lately that there is a whole new level of "stoopid" posting on GLP....
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


 Quoting: Ford Prefect




you mean the quality of the video as opposed to the piece of trailer trash that they are leaving on th emoon..... what a pile of junk.
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12/15/2013 12:25 PM
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why was there a COMPUTER SIMULATION of the lander-decoupling running at the same time as the broadcast-from-moon footage?

It's like the SPACE TEAM didn't really know what was happening and needed to be reminded of the mission, live, in their face while they were trying to concentrate on decoupling the lander from the module.

Eh?
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Can't see the stars from the moon??? Amazing!!!














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12/15/2013 01:15 PM
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Shadows aren't right. Look at the shadow on the satellite dish on top of the rover. It shows the light source to be high up to the right. But look at the rocks....shadows show light source more lower on the right and then the rover shows light source to be directly from the right. Just like the NASA photos where the shadows were all from different angles.

And where are the damned stars?

Ad why is the surface brown?

Hmmmm
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There is a tv show called 'the water margin.'
In the show the characters do a bit of traveling and the terrain is slate grey and slightly rocky ,

In fact I would swear it looks like the 'moon' surface being depicted here.

Kind of like,if the americans footage looks like an american desert terrain and now the chinese version looks like a typical asian terrain.

If not 'the water margin' then I am sure a lot of us have seen 'monkey'.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Seems to me lately that there is a whole new level of "stoopid" posting on GLP....
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Shadows aren't right. Look at the shadow on the satellite dish on top of the rover. It shows the light source to be high up to the right. But look at the rocks....shadows show light source more lower on the right and then the rover shows light source to be directly from the right. Just like the NASA photos where the shadows were all from different angles.

And where are the damned stars?

Ad why is the surface brown?

Hmmmm
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Guess we're gonna have to wait and see because so far there's not enough material to call out a hoax, but things will be different after they release the panoramic shots.
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


 Quoting: Ford Prefect


You don't really know how photography and video cameras work, do you? When you focus on a brighter subject you have to reduce exposition. As a consequence, less bright objects are not captured anymore because they are now below the sensitivity threshold of the camera sensor or film.
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Why would they hoax that shit? You do realize there is a rover on mars and a Russian rover on Venus back in the early 80's right?

If anything, if there is some cover up involving the original moon landing. It would be in regards to what in the he'll actually is in the other side of the moon? ..strange there aren't tons of high resolution space images?
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UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


 Quoting: Ford Prefect


You don't really know how photography and video cameras work, do you? When you focus on a brighter subject you have to reduce exposition. As a consequence, less bright objects are not captured anymore because they are now below the sensitivity threshold of the camera sensor or film.
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The problem with your theory, smartass, is that no stars are seen in NASA Apollo images either, even when the cameras were focused in the infinity, and considering that the Moon has a ultra-thin atmosphere, the sky should be filled with stars.
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I don't care what they claim. They did not land a rover on the moon. You realize when it comes to technology, it's far easier and affordable to use camera tricks, cgi, and actors to convince the world you've achieved something incredible than it is to achieve something incredible.
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What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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bump for the color question
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So let me see if I got this right. China can erect a giant skyscraper in 80 day, and go to the Moon, but cannot make a new aircraft carrier?
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Aircraft Carriers are outdated, slow, heavy, wastes resources, moving target, ect.

China knows this.
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Obviously you have no knowledge of modern day aircraft carriers.
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Why would they hoax that shit? You do realize there is a rover on mars and a Russian rover on Venus back in the early 80's right?

If anything, if there is some cover up involving the original moon landing. It would be in regards to what in the he'll actually is in the other side of the moon? ..strange there aren't tons of high resolution space images?
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There's a theory that Americans actually went to the Moon in 69 but that was not what people saw on TV. The open broadcast was faked, because NASA was aware of bogeys all over the moon and obviously they wouldn't take the risk of people seeing alien bases and giant spacecrafts on live TV.

Maybe the Chinese imported the shenanigans know-how from Americans.

Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/15/2013 02:28 PM
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Why would they hoax that shit? You do realize there is a rover on mars and a Russian rover on Venus back in the early 80's right?

If anything, if there is some cover up involving the original moon landing. It would be in regards to what in the he'll actually is in the other side of the moon? ..strange there aren't tons of high resolution space images?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50023508


There's a theory that Americans actually went to the Moon in 69 but that was not what people saw on TV. The open broadcast was faked, because NASA was aware of bogeys all over the moon and obviously they wouldn't take the risk of people seeing alien bases and giant spacecrafts on live TV.

Maybe the Chinese imported the shenanigans know-how from Americans.
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ok. so in this picture,


[link to n37i.img-up.net]

you are facing it head on with the white satellite facing you. and the right wing is pointed down

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING A REFLECTION.


Now, in this picture


[link to i26i.img-up.net]


you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!





WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50478985


It's not the same reflection because the rover turned around 360° so that the lander could snap the Chinese flag. That's a reflection of the OTHER panel, but I still don't get what's causing that reflection and why the other metallic parts are not reflecting as well.
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I agree, it isn't the same reflection, it is the other panel. The reflection is caused by lighting from under the craft reflecting upward toward the panels. The craft has numerous cameras, many of which, are not in view. Because of the darkness, there is need for artificial lighting.
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
I remember NASA saying they blackened the stars out of the moon shots as not to confuse the viewers. What's the excuse this time why there is no stars?





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