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UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".

 
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I remember NASA saying they blackened the stars out of the moon shots as not to confuse the viewers. What's the excuse this time why there is no stars?
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I remember NASA saying they blackened the stars out of the moon shots as not to confuse the viewers. What's the excuse this time why there is no stars?

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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.


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You don't really know how photography and video cameras work, do you? When you focus on a brighter subject you have to reduce exposition. As a consequence, less bright objects are not captured anymore because they are now below the sensitivity threshold of the camera sensor or film.
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The problem with your theory, smartass, is that no stars are seen in NASA Apollo images either, even when the cameras were focused in the infinity, and considering that the Moon has a ultra-thin atmosphere, the sky should be filled with stars.
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I am talking about EXPOSURE. Even cameras focused on infinity or whatever adjust themselves to levels of light. There's no need to go to space, you can see it for yourself here on Earth. But most probably I shouldn't even be arguing with you; you are a BELIEVER, so...
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Where are the fucking pictures??????????
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^^^ this.

Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc.

:)
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1st official snapshot by the lander's camera.

[link to n37i.img-up.net]

They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait.

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Will you look at that! Just like the rovers on Mars did, they are using this one to draw a dick on the moon. WTF????
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Did they land near the Sea of Tranquility?

Did they see NASA's junk?

I mean NSAS's rover is still there right?
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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best question
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Video of 1969 through 1976 used vacuum tube based CCD pick ups with a very limited dynamic range. Modern solid state CCD's are able to handle the wide bandwidth required to show the moon's surface correctly in the bright unfiltered sunlight.

Some of the Apollo program's film photographs show the colors closer to what we see here from the Chinese because film had a better ability to capture the wide contrast range.
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I remember NASA saying they blackened the stars out of the moon shots as not to confuse the viewers. What's the excuse this time why there is no stars?

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EPIC video, classic NASA bullshit.

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I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about:

[link to i26i.img-up.net]

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[link to x13i.img-up.net]

Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that??
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I'm browsing the pinned threads and there's only one about the moon landing when it should be all over the place, strange...
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What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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Besides that interesting reflection that you pointed out, and has me baffled, I also thought of the redish-brownish color of the soil.
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In the OP's first photo, I find it suspicious that the rover's tracks are so much darker than the undisturbed soil around them. It looks like the wheels dug up moist (therefore darker) soil, which of course wouldn't be possible in a place as bone-crushingly dry as the moon.
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It looks like one of the Solar Panels did not latch correctly?

The one on the right, the center latch mechanism does not look engaged?
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
I'm kinda wondering what the Gold/Silver colored foil thing is?

Just above the dish antenna?

It looks like its sitting on that rock?

Probably part of the spacecraft?

How did it get on the rock?
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
also, the solar panel on the right is reflecting something when it gets off the lander

lol

i could show you, but i won't.

should be pitch black reflecting off that panel. nothing should be visible. lol
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
ok. so in this picture,


[link to n37i.img-up.net]

you are facing it head on with the white satellite facing you. and the right wing is pointed down

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING A REFLECTION.


Now, in this picture


[link to i26i.img-up.net]


you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!





WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the whole chassis of that vehicle is covered in gold-foil. I guess, that chassis is causing those reflections.
Just try to teflect some sunlight with a mirror and see what a mirror does with sunlight reflected on soil. sheep
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What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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best question
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Nibiru is near and the moon color soil is caused by the almost no atmosphere to prevent the reddish of the soil.
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
Ok folks check this out:

I set StarryNight to the Moon's surface at the approximate location of the landing site on Sinus Iridium (missed by 4° of longitude but I don't think it's a big deal), at the approximate time the rover was deployed (4:35 am ET, 7:35 am here), as you can see in the below images, then I set the compass to a position where the Sun should be matching the shadow of the rover (ignore the shadow of the Apollo astronaut in the background), in attempt to obtain ANY reference in the MOON SKY, or any celestial object that could be seen without disregarding the "exposure" explanation of the shills.

[link to w32i.img-up.net]
[link to m24i.img-up.net]

It turns out that according to StarryNight VENUS should be seen from the Chinese lander even at the lunar daylight, as it was snapped by Apollo 14.

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

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If anyone else here has StarryNight, Google Sky or any other program, and wants to check the lunar sky as seen from the Chinese landing site, the coordinates of Sinus Iridium are 44.1°, -31.5°.
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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
ok. so in this picture,


[link to n37i.img-up.net]

you are facing it head on with the white satellite facing you. and the right wing is pointed down

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING A REFLECTION.


Now, in this picture


[link to i26i.img-up.net]


you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!





WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the whole chassis of that vehicle is covered in gold-foil. I guess, that chassis is causing those reflections.
Just try to teflect some sunlight with a mirror and see what a mirror does with sunlight reflected on soil. sheep
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Before you jump too quick to pull the sheeple card, since the whole chassis is wrapped in gold foil, shouldn't there be MORE parts reflecting in the soil as well???

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Re: UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about:

[link to i26i.img-up.net]

Zoomed

[link to x13i.img-up.net]

Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that??
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i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is?
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NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever
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someone please explain this.
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I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about:

[link to i26i.img-up.net]

Zoomed

[link to x13i.img-up.net]

Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that??
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is?
 Quoting: green_girl


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I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about:

[link to i26i.img-up.net]

Zoomed

[link to x13i.img-up.net]

Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that??
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i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is?
 Quoting: green_girl


My point is:

1. Where the source of the light that's causing that reflection coming from below the panel?

2. The reflection is not moving accordingly to the irregular terrain.

3. Why there are not other parts reflecting as well?
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Well being up the moon you would imagine Having a pretty fancy look at the sky full of stars and at least take a great shot of the earth.
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I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about:

[link to i26i.img-up.net]

Zoomed

[link to x13i.img-up.net]

Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that??
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is?
 Quoting: green_girl


My point is:

1. Where the source of the light that's causing that reflection coming from below the panel?

2. The reflection is not moving accordingly to the irregular terrain.

3. Why there are not other parts reflecting as well?
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


the very ground itself is a light source. shuning up from below. and then reflecting back.
also in one pic it looks like the other panel is in shadow, so no light to reflect there.

Last Edited by green_girl on 12/15/2013 05:37 PM
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NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever
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someone please explain this.
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The official explanation to the lack of stars in space images is "daylight exposure of the camera", but the problem is that when you watch a timelapse video made from the ISS, you see plenty of stars even when the station is flying in the orbital daytime.





Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/15/2013 05:37 PM
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it's not snapshots of a fucking machine we want, it is LIVE HD video of what's infront, to the sides and rear we need to see, not shots of the paddle picking up soil samples to be analysed nobody gives a damn about that we want to see the moon in full HD and LIVE
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I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about:

[link to i26i.img-up.net]

Zoomed

[link to x13i.img-up.net]

Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that??
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is?
 Quoting: green_girl


My point is:

1. Where the source of the light that's causing that reflection coming from below the panel?

2. The reflection is not moving accordingly to the irregular terrain.

3. Why there are not other parts reflecting as well?
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


the very ground itself is a light source. shuning up from below. and then reflecting back.
also in one pic it looks like the other panel is in shadow, so no light to reflect there.
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Nope, the ground may reflect light but it's not a source and there's no fucking way of a dark soil reflecting the sunlight onto the bottom side of solar panel and then bounce it back to the ground.

Plus 90% of the rover's surface is exposed to the sunlight, therefore should be way more than just a small reflection in the ground.

Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/15/2013 05:42 PM
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