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UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".

 
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.. bogeys all over the moon and obviously they wouldn't take the risk of people seeing alien bases and giant spacecrafts on live TV...
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mmmm, so no one with modern telescopes would already have seen that, IF ever existed?
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I missed Fore Prefect. where ya' been ? Your posts are so freaking entertaining!
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.. bogeys all over the moon and obviously they wouldn't take the risk of people seeing alien bases and giant spacecrafts on live TV...
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


mmmm, so no one with modern telescopes would already have seen that, IF ever existed?
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Ford Prefect:

I have shared your accelerated animation of the rover deployment and most people agree that at face value the reflection looks incosistent with the shadows angle and with the soil surface.

Perhaps you need to share the image with more people and more places to see if it gets the attention of someone with image analysis professional skills.
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Ford Prefect:

I have shared your accelerated animation of the rover deployment and most people agree that at face value the reflection looks incosistent with the shadows angle and with the soil surface.

Perhaps you need to share the image with more people and more places to see if it gets the attention of someone with image analysis professional skills.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


I'm avoiding the discussion about the shadows direction because there are no wide images and no celestial reference behind the lander, neither the rover.

According to StarryNight the celestial position from Sinus Iridum should be like this:

[link to l65i.img-up.net]

Without a wide picture there's no way of verifying where was the sun when the rover was deployed.

Anyway the landing alone is a dead giveaway, because there's absolutely NO dust blowing off the ground by the lander engine. That alone is a bust.

[link to g16i.img-up.net]

But definitely we need MORE images.

Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/17/2013 05:10 PM
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What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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Ummm, Analog video versus digital? 40+ years of technological advancement?
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What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish.
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Ummm, Analog video versus digital? 40+ years of technological advancement?
 Quoting: Fenris


If that's the case, then the Chinese lander is equipped with a digital camera and the rover with an analog, because the ground is brown in the picture taken by the lander, and grey in the picture taken by the rover.

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[link to x54i.img-up.net]

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you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!

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Because the reflection is from the rectangular shiny SIDE PANEL of the BODY, NOT the solar cells; moran.
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you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50478985


Because the reflection is from the rectangular shiny SIDE PANEL of the BODY, NOT the solar cells; moran.
 Quoting: Cat.Man.Deux


I also thought of this, but the angle of the reflection is too odd. Also, it looks like it woudl be fixed, does not follow the contour of the terrain, it seems like superimposed in a flat surface.

Anyway, has the Chinese Space Agency released more images?
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you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50478985


Because the reflection is from the rectangular shiny SIDE PANEL of the BODY, NOT the solar cells; moran.
 Quoting: Cat.Man.Deux


I also thought of this, but the angle of the reflection is too odd. Also, it looks like it woudl be fixed, does not follow the contour of the terrain, it seems like superimposed in a flat surface.

Anyway, has the Chinese Space Agency released more images?
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


it is reflected on a really flat bit of ground, so to me it looks like it should. is there footage somewhere i have not seen of it travelling over rockier terrain
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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
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I would not be surprised of china faking it as the US faked going to the moon, but first of all, its not soil. Soil does not exist on mars. Dirt that contains metalic minerals, most likely. Second, when I take a picture at the beach do people ask where is the ocean and the sun or the life gaurd? No, they dont. Its just not in the frame.
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you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across.

AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50478985


Because the reflection is from the rectangular shiny SIDE PANEL of the BODY, NOT the solar cells; moran.
 Quoting: Cat.Man.Deux


I also thought of this, but the angle of the reflection is too odd. Also, it looks like it woudl be fixed, does not follow the contour of the terrain, it seems like superimposed in a flat surface.

Anyway, has the Chinese Space Agency released more images?
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Nope, total blackout since Sunday, no updates on the mission status, no pictures, zip, zero, nada, zilch.
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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
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Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
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China's Moon landing was as real as the eggs they sell in the streets.


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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
 Quoting: KipKat


Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
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there was dust
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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
 Quoting: KipKat


Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


there was dust
 Quoting: green_girl


No there was NOT, and unless you're in the payroll of the Chinese government, you're really starting to go full retard.

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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
 Quoting: KipKat


Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


there was dust
 Quoting: green_girl


No there was NOT, and unless you're in the payroll of the Chinese government, you're really starting to go full retard.

[link to f82i.img-up.net]

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 Quoting: Ford Prefect


WOW
convenient how your gif ends literally one frame before the dust kicks up.
For anyone wanting to see the dust - and i admit there is hardly a lot of it - go here:
[link to www.euronews.com]
dust at the :39 mark. note how ford uploaded a giff missing that. and then calls ME the full retard.

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Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


there was dust
 Quoting: green_girl


No there was NOT, and unless you're in the payroll of the Chinese government, you're really starting to go full retard.

[link to f82i.img-up.net]

fullretard1
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


WOW
convenient how your gif ends literally one frame before the dust kicks up.
For anyone wanting to see the dust - and i admit there is hardly a lot of it - go here:
[link to www.euronews.com]
dust at the :39 mark. note how ford uploaded a giff missing that. and then calls ME the full retard.
 Quoting: green_girl


Don't worry I have plenty of those videos, and that's not dust blowing off, that's the reverse thrust gases, and AGAIN you go full retard, because the onboard camera lens still squeaky clean and even the TV Host of the government channel mentions the lack of dust.





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I think you probably right. Be there proof or not. Dust or no dust. Color or reflection. All these things can be agrued with nice theories for anything from people proving their alliances.

Mainly for one reason. How can anyone believe one word coming from any government!!! How can you trust anything. Untill you are there and actually see it everything can be fabricated.

You can ask though why now? Why do they feel the need now to show some pictures of the moon with nothing there?

All very suspicious.

Just look up at the sky and you can spot lots of UFO's.
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here is a clue. bout 2-3 years ago there was a thread "bright star over denver". Now you know where all the rockets been going.
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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
 Quoting: KipKat


Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


That was what I was thinking, I've not searched anything, but I?m surprised no more footage has been going around, so I assume the Chinese are still amazed of what they have found, or the mission was really a hoax and they are in shock because they let it slip through so blatantly...
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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
 Quoting: KipKat


Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


That was what I was thinking, I've not searched anything, but I?m surprised no more footage has been going around, so I assume the Chinese are still amazed of what they have found, or the mission was really a hoax and they are in shock because they let it slip through so blatantly...
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The lack of new images is a dead giveaway. I guess they took people for granted thinking that a short footage of the landing and a couple of pics of the rover/lander would suffice.
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Dust, soil color.....whatever. Who the fuck knows what is real anymore.

Bread and Circus is what we are given. Even hardcore GLP'rs love circus.

no pictures = no circus. This concerns me more than the other crap.
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Where's the rest of the pictures China? redfaceredfaceredface
 Quoting: KipKat


Just said, total blackout since the weekend.

I guess they didn't expect people spotting the lack of dust blown off the ground during the landing.

That was so fucked up that even the TV anchor mentioned on air during the broadcast.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect


That was what I was thinking, I've not searched anything, but I?m surprised no more footage has been going around, so I assume the Chinese are still amazed of what they have found, or the mission was really a hoax and they are in shock because they let it slip through so blatantly...
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The lack of new images is a dead giveaway. I guess they took people for granted thinking that a short footage of the landing and a couple of pics of the rover/lander would suffice.
 Quoting: Ford Prefect

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