UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time". | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51814714 United States 12/22/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic. "We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics." Neil Armstrong |
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Undestroyer Truth User ID: 48045329 United States 12/22/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With the progress made in special effects, I am really looking forward to a new era in Sci-fi Chinese cinema. You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer. Thread: Food Combining Made Easy by Herbert Shelton a progenitor from the Natural Hygienist Movement "I am a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love... errr something like that." -Vash the Stampede |
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Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51815235 Brazil 12/22/2013 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic. "We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics." Neil Armstrong The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface. Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/22/2013 04:16 PM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51825743 United States 12/22/2013 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To everyone bitching about stars not being visible -- stars aren't visible in space Quoting: Rekrov Our atmosphere makes starlight visible; stars are generally invisible from space to the wavelength we know as "visible" light, hence the reason for infrared on Hubble, etc Of course it is? :) Why would you be able to see the Earth from the Moon if star light was invisible in space? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9668958 United States 12/22/2013 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42799151 Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic. "We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics." Neil Armstrong The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface. Posting an interview of astronauts who have never been on the moon is proof of what exactly? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9668958 United States 12/22/2013 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...not sure what your point is anyways after watching it... one says they saw stars but couldn't remember what constellations and another says they couldn't see any... your BS flag seems to be contrary to the statement you were attempting to make... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50582001 United States 12/22/2013 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42799151 Must be the same people who told you that you can't see stars in space. Stands to reason by your logic. "We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics." Neil Armstrong The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface. Ok genius.. If they can fabricate a moon landing, what's stopping them from adding a couple stars to the mix... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51285308 Germany 12/22/2013 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To everyone bitching about stars not being visible -- stars aren't visible in space Quoting: Rekrov Our atmosphere makes starlight visible; stars are generally invisible from space to the wavelength we know as "visible" light, hence the reason for infrared on Hubble, etc Of course it is? :) Why would you be able to see the Earth from the Moon if star light was invisible in space? The stars are very far away and the only light that reaches us from them comes from a very small percentage of photons that happen to be on sufficiently parallel paths to have gotten from the Point A (the star) to Point B (the observer on Earth). The parallel path thing means that the starlight is focused like a cheap laser, which then scatters somewhat when it hits atmosphere and makes the star appear bigger. Try this with a cheap laser pointer...point it at the ground and it makes a little dot. Point it at a distant object and it appears larger. Same thing. In space, without atmospheric lensing, all of the light falls on that really small beam-path, which may or may not be above the imaging resolution of the eye or device. The sun, however, is close, and the Earth and Moon are close, so there isn't the "point source" phenomenon which is due to distance. Proximity paints a larger footprint on the viewing field, and thus there is a larger apparent area from which photons are emitted or reflected. Less distance also means less scatter, so you can see them quite clearly. My only real observation on the photo reflections from the rover at issue was that the ground must be very flat for the reflection not to ripple or contain changing shadow areas representing high points and dimples in the surface. That seems a bit suspect. |
DVCMCM User ID: 51872499 Italy 12/22/2013 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok genius.. If they can fabricate a moon landing, what's stopping them from adding a couple stars to the mix... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50582001 Because it was way simple to rigged up the whole stuff. // Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/22/2013 04:48 PM |
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Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51815235 Brazil 12/22/2013 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Rekrov "We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics." Neil Armstrong The moon is pretty damn bright.. and I bet doubly so when you are actually on it.. It's no small mystery they can't see visible stars from it's surface. Ok genius.. If they can fabricate a moon landing, what's stopping them from adding a couple stars to the mix... Faking a moon landing in the '60s, when dual/quadricore home computers and powerful software of image/video analysis were not around and conspiracy theories were unthinkable to the average Joe, is ONE thing, faking a moon landing in 2013 with all this technology available and smartass conspiritards multiplying like rats, is ANOTHER entirely different animal. Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/22/2013 04:47 PM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51815235 Brazil 12/22/2013 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here we go again. The Moontards have returned. Let me guess Stanley Kubrick directed this one too right? Oh wait, hes dead. moontard = isontard? same species? Hybrids maybe Shilltards belong to which species??? It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
goldielucks User ID: 794598 United States 12/22/2013 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^ this. Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc. :) 1st official snapshot by the lander's camera. [link to n37i.img-up.net] They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait. There's a skull sticking out of the dirt? Top center off the picture. lol It's a graveyard! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9668958 United States 12/22/2013 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone noticed how brown the soil is and when we went everything was shades of gray? Quoting: SSERAL The colors were made to look black and white(on the movie set) as that is how the moon appears at a distance. color loss at a distance is known light phenomenon... [liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com] just as they red shifted mars in earlier footage so it met our expectations of it being a red planet ...when reality is it looks a lot like some of our deserts as we can better see in newer footage. The mere fact that is does look different and we can see color lends further evidence to it being a genuine landing. |
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Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51815235 Brazil 12/22/2013 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem here is that the shills are trying to make the Chinese moon hoax exclusively about the issue of stars in the lunar sky, but I don't see ANY of them addressing the discrepancy in the shadows of both the lander and the rover, which still pretty much the same all over the week, regardless from where their pictures were taken by each other. [link to n24i.img-up.net] [link to i22i.img-up.net] The lander pictures are more weird, because the rover took one in front and other from behind, and the lander's shadow points toward the same direction anyway. Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/22/2013 05:08 PM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Politicas User ID: 51838039 United States 12/22/2013 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Observers that have left the Earths atmosphere and view with their eyes all report that there are no stars. One of the latest is the guy who jumped from the edge of space to set the free fall record. When he climb out of his capsule to jump he said, I can't believe how dark it is up here and there are no stars. |
DVCMCM User ID: 51872499 Italy 12/22/2013 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Observers that have left the Earths atmosphere and view with their eyes all report that there are no stars. One of the latest is the guy who jumped from the edge of space to set the free fall record. When he climb out of his capsule to jump he said, I can't believe how dark it is up here and there are no stars. Quoting: Politicas Are any video footage of that dude sayn that? tnx // Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/22/2013 05:24 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18770744 Czechia 12/22/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Panoramas of Chang'e-3's landing zone unveiled (Xinhua) 09:48, December 21, 2013 [link to english.peopledaily.com.cn] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25957114 United States 12/22/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem here is that the shills are trying to make the Chinese moon hoax exclusively about the issue of stars in the lunar sky, but I don't see ANY of them addressing the discrepancy in the shadows of both the lander and the rover, which still pretty much the same all over the week, regardless from where their pictures were taken by each other. Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to n24i.img-up.net] [link to i22i.img-up.net] The lander pictures are more weird, because the rover took one in front and other from behind, and the lander's shadow points toward the same direction anyway. The Moon does not rotate as does the Earth. It is tidally locked and the same face always presents itself to the Earth. The reason the shadows are not changing much is because the orientation of that surface of the moon to the sun has not changed much since landing. So the Moon to us appears to be going from East to West when it is visible, but that is due to the fact that the Earth is rotating under it. It is sitting out there basking in the Sunshine with a slow orbit of about a MOOONTH, so the sun will shine at the same angle on the same area for quite a while. ****** |
DelusionsOfGrandeur User ID: 37062035 United States 12/22/2013 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Free Planet 44675633 ^^^ this. Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc. :) 1st official snapshot by the lander's camera. [link to n37i.img-up.net] They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait. There's a skull sticking out of the dirt? Top center off the picture. lol It's a graveyard! It's the Valley of Dry Bones, didn't you know? It's the key to raising the dead on earth, through the earth. |