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Evacuee: We Are In Fact Dying In Fukushima; What Happened To Us Will Soon Affect All Japanese People
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- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning — Evacuee: We are in fact dying in Fukushima; What happened to us will soon affect all Japanese people (VIDEOS) (ENENews, Dec 16, 2013):

Arnie Gundersen, Chief Engineer at Fairewinds, Dec. 16, 2013: The Japanese parliament has just passed the state secrets law. It’s really an information ‘iron curtain’ that’s preventing people in Japan from learning just how bad the exposures were that they received after the accident at Fukushima. […] They’re trying to underestimate the amount of radiation that the Japanese received […] I think they’re neglecting some really serious sources of radiation in their effort to convince the Japanese people that nuclear power is safe. […] These exposures not being calculated by the Japanese, or the IAEA, are in fact enormous. [..] Fukushima was 3 times worse than Chernobyl as far as the noble gases [e.g. xenon, krypton] that were released. […] There’s already a 10-fold increase in thyroid issues in Japan and we’re just at the beginning of the thyroid epidemic. […] As I discovered when I was in Tokyo during the book tour during 2012, all of Japan is a radiologically contaminated area, and the people in Japan need to take extraordinary precautions. The net effect of all this is the total exposure to the Japanese is being grossly underestimated.

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It is indeed the sad, yet understandable defeat that we were wishing not to announce.

There is much to be done to waylay the consequences for further generations.

Indeed, our time here is paraphrased by the timing of our arrival.... those of us old enough have spent a generous amount of time here...

But what for the children and our children's children?

This is not only a sad legacy to leave behind, it is abohored that we leave behind a legacy of lies, manipulation and confusion that will indeed be the legacy of our generation.

During the Vietnam war, the American's arose as to the speculative rediculousness of the Cold War.

During the rise of knowledge as to the situation of tha Australian Aboriginal Community, the people and Government apologised.

During the Chernobyl crisis the Cold Wall was broken in an attempt at admitting a wrong.

Sadly, we record the broken record of lies the World over, when we apparently are left with little option.

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Oh well , any 1 stars are imbeciles in denial , 18 + months of radiation release is fact , only getting worse each day . Pity west coast USA , they are well and truely FK"D . OP we only have 5 years or so til we are rooted too .
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Mmmmm, hi Mr. Perth. I secretly have a crush on you.y_lovin
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awnnn ty.... i feel honoured.....
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Oh well , any 1 stars are imbeciles in denial , 18 + months of radiation release is fact , only getting worse each day . Pity west coast USA , they are well and truely FK"D . OP we only have 5 years or so til we are rooted too .
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it is sad.. but it is true.. did we really wish for doom?.. not for the kids anyway.. it is inevitable now that the no #1 death will be the cancer....

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Oh well , any 1 stars are imbeciles in denial , 18 + months of radiation release is fact , only getting worse each day . Pity west coast USA , they are well and truely FK"D . OP we only have 5 years or so til we are rooted too .
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it is sad.. but it is true.. did we really wish for doom?.. not for the kids anyway.. it is inevitable now that the no #1 death will be the cancer....
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I have already told my kids , have fun , as time is short .
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Most people here in OZ have no idea of the dire consequences of Fukushima , as nothing on the news . The average Joe is kept in the blind . Do not eat anything from the Pacific ocean , especially shell fish or tuna / salmon .
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Most people here in OZ have no idea of the dire consequences of Fukushima , as nothing on the news . The average Joe is kept in the blind . Do not eat anything from the Pacific ocean , especially shell fish or tuna / salmon .
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bingo...

sadly "stay out of the water"
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just in now.... report of 'hot particles (the ones that kill you), found 400 km from fuku... only made in reactors.....

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Tepco, you are fucking hillarious ;)
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The one star is certainly from the same tepco shill who gave me 1 star too.

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Actually , it's too late to not eat contaminated food as the world has been totally circled by radiation from Japan . The Japanese are fk'd already , as is the USA . Number 1 child killer in USA is cancer now { something wrong there ?} , USA is in denial as Gov't is not telling the truth , like Tepco and the Jap Gov't . THE WORLD IS FK'D , end of story .
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Actually , it's too late to not eat contaminated food as the world has been totally circled by radiation from Japan . The Japanese are fk'd already , as is the USA . Number 1 child killer in USA is cancer now { something wrong there ?} , USA is in denial as Gov't is not telling the truth , like Tepco and the Jap Gov't . THE WORLD IS FK'D , end of story .
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Actually , it's too late to not eat contaminated food as the world has been totally circled by radiation from Japan . The Japanese are fk'd already , as is the USA . Number 1 child killer in USA is cancer now { something wrong there ?} , USA is in denial as Gov't is not telling the truth , like Tepco and the Jap Gov't . THE WORLD IS FK'D , end of story .
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live a full life :)

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Mate , I'm on the same page as you , we are stuffed . Polar bears , seals and walrus' losing fur , mass die offs in fish ,bees , moose , etc , all the dolphins doing a bug out [3 or 4 months ago ] ; something is not right in the Pacific ocean ! Not just a few square miles , BUT THE WHOLE OCEAN !!!! Has to have reprocussions else where .
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And nobody is talking about the daylight moon we having now all the time...

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Evacuee: We Are In Fact Dying In Fukushima; What Happened To Us Will Soon Affect All Japanese People

- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
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And nobodys is talking about the daylight moon we having all the time...

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Back up to a mirror you will see a moon , every time ,day or night .
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- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


That is a good point, I am the South Equatorial sales rep for SOEKS devices from Russia....

1. nobody wants them as they dont' care as long as the tellie is on....

more importantly... the data we have on the 'solar' powered RD Public devices in Japan are so skewed it would blow your mind...

I have countless videos of JP people holding real handhelds against the Government 'public' counters....

I now don't publish them for worry for them with the infintile 'public secret' rule over there....

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- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


Did you stop to think that maybe the geiger counters could be set for false or low readings ???? Why sell something that is going to tell the truth and set off ALARM bells ??
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What the Japanese Government Isn’t Saying About Fukushima
Posted On: Dec 16, 2013


In this, the third installment in our short film series, Fairewinds Energy Education’s Arnie Gundersen discusses sources of radiation the Japanese government is not taking into consideration when assessing the risk to it’s people and the rest of the world.

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- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


Did you stop to think that maybe the geiger counters could be set for false or low readings ???? Why sell something that is going to tell the truth and set off ALARM bells ??
 Quoting: Foresight


Evacuee: We Are In Fact Dying In Fukushima; What Happened To Us Will Soon Affect All Japanese People

- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


Did you stop to think that maybe the geiger counters could be set for false or low readings ???? Why sell something that is going to tell the truth and set off ALARM bells ??
 Quoting: Foresight


I think that was the point being made! Japan are deliberately spreading the radiation around to prevent "hot spots" from becoming so obvious. The trouble is, what do you do? This shit isn't going away for the Japanese!

Interestingly none of Japan's 50+ nuclear power stations are producing electricity, and basically haven't done so since the Earth Quake / Tsunami. It would appear to me that Japan's government are covering up more for the rest of the world's remaining nuclear generation than their own now redundant power stations.

The Japanese have 54 eternal "monuments to folly" for 60 years of power generation. The fucking madness of "cheap", "green" energy that the rest of the world are still lauding at!
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- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


Did you stop to think that maybe the geiger counters could be set for false or low readings ???? Why sell something that is going to tell the truth and set off ALARM bells ??
 Quoting: Foresight


Evacuee: We Are In Fact Dying In Fukushima; What Happened To Us Will Soon Affect All Japanese People

- Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


Did you stop to think that maybe the geiger counters could be set for false or low readings ???? Why sell something that is going to tell the truth and set off ALARM bells ??
 Quoting: Foresight


I think that was the point being made! Japan are deliberately spreading the radiation around to prevent "hot spots" from becoming so obvious. The trouble is, what do you do? This shit isn't going away for the Japanese!

Interestingly none of Japan's 50+ nuclear power stations are producing electricity, and basically haven't done so since the Earth Quake / Tsunami. It would appear to me that Japan's government are covering up more for the rest of the world's remaining nuclear generation than their own now redundant power stations.

The Japanese have 54 eternal "monuments to folly" for 60 years of power generation. The fucking madness of "cheap", "green" energy that the rest of the world are still lauding at!
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a sunkun island.. i know the interpreter that traveled with the last prime minister personaly..... the news is dire..... they could not move the population effectively... simple.. so they left them there....
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And nobody is talking about the daylight moon we having now all the time...

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I have bright moonbeams streaming into my room at this minute. You can now read by moonlight. Not so many decades ago. The moon is reflecting a lot more light than it used to, or the atmosphere is allowing more light in. Not sure which, but it is very different from the norm I recall from my youth.
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I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


Did you stop to think that maybe the geiger counters could be set for false or low readings ???? Why sell something that is going to tell the truth and set off ALARM bells ??
 Quoting: Foresight


...


I'm a fan of Arnie, he and Busby enlightened me on many things Fukushima and nuclear power disasters etc.

However I would have thought the Japanese government (or any government agencies) could not keep radiation poisoning a secret. Especially now Geiger counters and highly sophisticated dosimeters are so readily available (see Youtube "Anti-Protons" channel... [link to www.youtube.com] ).

The Internet is there for everyone with an enquiring mind. People who blindly trust the government, media, medical, financial and the education systems sadly have what's coming to them. If I lived in Japan, I would own a Geiger counter, and go to places like this...

[link to gamma.tar.bz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


Did you stop to think that maybe the geiger counters could be set for false or low readings ???? Why sell something that is going to tell the truth and set off ALARM bells ??
 Quoting: Foresight


I think that was the point being made! Japan are deliberately spreading the radiation around to prevent "hot spots" from becoming so obvious. The trouble is, what do you do? This shit isn't going away for the Japanese!

Interestingly none of Japan's 50+ nuclear power stations are producing electricity, and basically haven't done so since the Earth Quake / Tsunami. It would appear to me that Japan's government are covering up more for the rest of the world's remaining nuclear generation than their own now redundant power stations.

The Japanese have 54 eternal "monuments to folly" for 60 years of power generation. The fucking madness of "cheap", "green" energy that the rest of the world are still lauding at!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 527834


a sunkun island.. i know the interpreter that traveled with the last prime minister personaly..... the news is dire..... they could not move the population effectively... simple.. so they left them there....
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Exactly , where are they going to move west coast USA people [ 20 million? + ] , Japan [ 100 million + ] to , China in those already built cities , maybe ; but , where is the radioactive free food coming from ???? Time to face the facts people , the world is fk'D . The oceans are contaminated ,the soil is contaminated, the water is contaminated , so everything a person eats ,drinks or swims in is radioactive , that's the good news !!
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just in now.... report of 'hot particles (the ones that kill you), found 400 km from fuku... only made in reactors.....

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 Quoting: Citizenperth


Japan’s Black Dust, Fairewinds Energy Education, July 10, 2013: Marco Kaltofen, President at Boston Chemical Data Corp. & Doctoral student researcher at Worcester Polytechnic Institute:
[...] We kept hearing reports about something unusual, a black dust
[...] we finally got a very small sample
[...] It’s a single substance. It’s not a mix of mineral particles and pieces of dead bugs and plant matter and dust particles
[...] it doesn’t look like the surrounding soils. And it is much more intensely radioactive than any other soil or dust sample we’ve gotten from around Fukushima Daiichi.
[...] There’s something unusual happening with this stuff.
[...] this particle contains not only fission waste products from the reactor but very likely contains a concentrated unburned nuclear fuel. And that’s unusual. This sample had by far the highest level of uranium daughters that we’ve seen in a dust or soil sample. We’re actually seeing material that might well have come from inside a failed fuel assembly.

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That black shit ALLLL over Japan, that we heard much about in the early days before they stopped talking about it entirely- that's burnt-up fuel rods.

Japan is literally coated with burnt-up, powderized nuclear reactor cores. Both spent and unspent fuel, everything from tritium to plutonium.

Russia was lucky by comparison. They were able to bury most of it.
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Re: Arnie Gundersen: All Of Japan Is Contaminated, Gov’t Covering Up Enormous Exposures To Public; Epidemic Is Just Beginning
just in now.... report of 'hot particles (the ones that kill you), found 400 km from fuku... only made in reactors.....

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Japan’s Black Dust, Fairewinds Energy Education, July 10, 2013: Marco Kaltofen, President at Boston Chemical Data Corp. & Doctoral student researcher at Worcester Polytechnic Institute:
[...] We kept hearing reports about something unusual, a black dust
[...] we finally got a very small sample
[...] It’s a single substance. It’s not a mix of mineral particles and pieces of dead bugs and plant matter and dust particles
[...] it doesn’t look like the surrounding soils. And it is much more intensely radioactive than any other soil or dust sample we’ve gotten from around Fukushima Daiichi.
[...] There’s something unusual happening with this stuff.
[...] this particle contains not only fission waste products from the reactor but very likely contains a concentrated unburned nuclear fuel. And that’s unusual. This sample had by far the highest level of uranium daughters that we’ve seen in a dust or soil sample. We’re actually seeing material that might well have come from inside a failed fuel assembly.

(snipped)

That black shit ALLLL over Japan, that we heard much about in the early days before they stopped talking about it entirely- that's burnt-up fuel rods.

Japan is literally coated with burnt-up, powderized nuclear reactor cores. Both spent and unspent fuel, everything from tritium to plutonium.

Russia was lucky by comparison. They were able to bury most of it.
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Yep , Russia had it easy , Japan however is a different and dire story . They have no way of containing 3 possibly 4 china syndromes , so do the math and think outside the box . Bye Bye everyone .
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Re: Arnie Gundersen: All Of Japan Is Contaminated, Gov’t Covering Up Enormous Exposures To Public; Epidemic Is Just Beginning
just in now.... report of 'hot particles (the ones that kill you), found 400 km from fuku... only made in reactors.....

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Japan’s Black Dust, Fairewinds Energy Education, July 10, 2013: Marco Kaltofen, President at Boston Chemical Data Corp. & Doctoral student researcher at Worcester Polytechnic Institute:
[...] We kept hearing reports about something unusual, a black dust
[...] we finally got a very small sample
[...] It’s a single substance. It’s not a mix of mineral particles and pieces of dead bugs and plant matter and dust particles
[...] it doesn’t look like the surrounding soils. And it is much more intensely radioactive than any other soil or dust sample we’ve gotten from around Fukushima Daiichi.
[...] There’s something unusual happening with this stuff.
[...] this particle contains not only fission waste products from the reactor but very likely contains a concentrated unburned nuclear fuel. And that’s unusual. This sample had by far the highest level of uranium daughters that we’ve seen in a dust or soil sample. We’re actually seeing material that might well have come from inside a failed fuel assembly.

(snipped)

That black shit ALLLL over Japan, that we heard much about in the early days before they stopped talking about it entirely- that's burnt-up fuel rods.

Japan is literally coated with burnt-up, powderized nuclear reactor cores. Both spent and unspent fuel, everything from tritium to plutonium.

Russia was lucky by comparison. They were able to bury most of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22366104


Yep , Russia had it easy , Japan however is a different and dire story . They have no way of containing 3 possibly 4 china syndromes , so do the math and think outside the box . Bye Bye everyone .
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that are unabated 3 missing nuclear melt-thoughs......
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Re: Arnie Gundersen: All Of Japan Is Contaminated, Gov’t Covering Up Enormous Exposures To Public; Epidemic Is Just Beginning
Better get that space race going again, to make it off this planet before it is unlivable.





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