Obama administration cranks up executive actions to give gays government benefits (Social Security Survivors)

watch for the gays to push & legalize same sex marriages in states that dont have it as law.

more unnecessary benefits to be drained from the already depleted social security fund

Most recently, a former homosexual activist and lawyer was confirmed by the Senate – in one of its first “nuclear option” votes – to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). Chai Feldblum, who received two Republican votes, was initially placed on the Commission by an Obama recess appointment. Feldblum was an important voice when the EEOC decided that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which does not mention transsexuals in any way, could be used to prosecute workplace "discrimination" against transgender employees.

Feldblum was a target of major criticism in 2009 because she wrote and said that, when there is a conflict between religious rights and “sexual liberty,” the latter “should win in most cases. There can be a conflict between religious liberty and sexual liberty, but in almost all cases the sexual liberty should win because that’s the only way that the dignity of gay people can be affirmed in any realistic manner.”
[link to www.lifesitenews.com]

Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 12/21/2013 08:22 AM

Fagetry is is huge medical expense being carried by the straight pubic already. No way should tax payers be screwed by these perverts. All these homos and lezbos should be paying 200% more for obamacare coverage. If you make a life style choice to do unhealthy things then you should pay for it yourself.

A planet size meteor needs to swing through and just decimate this fucking planet.

Someone please explain why this is logical, without using calling me a bigot or saying that it's about fairness.

In a traditional man and woman marriage, there are usually children that follow the marriage. The woman either stays hoe and cares for the children, or often takes years off and works part time jobs so she can be there when children get sick or get off of school.

What excuse do homosexuals have? They are a naturally sterile couple, needing another human being outside their relationship to bring a child into it. Both homosexuals in the relationship can have careers, so why do we have to set up more money out of a soon to be bankrupt Social Security fund for them.

I've already given up on any idea of ever collecting SS myself. But I have many elderly and handicapped relatives and neighbors who need the system now. The more money that we suck out of it to give to others, the quicker the system goes bankrupt.

SO...China lands on the moon doing the same things we are doing on Mars...but Obama can't get his web site to work right and is more concerned about gay rights etc.

Maybe he is preparing for the day he leaves office and divorces Michelle.

shit aint right - the fund was never meant to sustain this deliberate whoring. its our money.

since 1937, ther've been 11 years in which benefits paid out exceeded income and so the assets of the trust funds had to've been spent to make up the difference. this cashing of the trust fund bonds came to like about $26 bil in those 11 years or sumthn.

for noobs - brief history here


the ssa collects payroll taxes & uses the money collected to pay retirement, survivors, & disability benefits, yada yada yada. this is done by way of trust funds. theres 2 trust funds which the ssa controls: retirement and survivors (OASI) and the disability(DI)

if the program has a surplus, there'll be excess funding avail for the ssa that yr. the excess funds are diverted to one of the trust funds.

so....whats done w/the money? the monies in the trust fund are used by the treasury in the form of treasury bonds but...if the program sees a deficit, the excess funds from previous yrs & any interest earned is used to pay beneficiaries

look at this - at the end of 2011, the trust fund was owed sumthn like $2 + tril, up $69 bil from 2010. the TF is required by law to be invested in nonmarketable securities issued and guaranteed by the full faith and credit of the fed govt.

but in retrospect, the TF doesnt represent any legal obligation to the SSA recipients. its considered an intragovernmental debt, like a component of the public or national debt.

seee below
he trust funds are "off budget" n treated separately in certain ways from other federal spending, and other trust funds of the Federal Government.

from the US code: (taken from their pamphlet)
EXCLUSION OF SOCIAL SECURITY FROM ALL BUDGETS pub. L. 101-508, title XIII, Sec. 13301(a), nov. 5, 1990, 104stat. 1388-623, provided that: notwithstanding any other provision of law, the receipts and disbursements of the federal retirement and survivors insurance TF & the fed'l disability insurance TF shall not be counted as new budget authority, outlays, receipts, or deficit or surplus for purposes of - the budget of the US govtt as submitted by the potus, andthe congressional budget, or the balanced budget n emergency deficit control act of 1985.

president peanut in his term increased fica taxes but in the 80s the revenue from payroll taxes wouldnt be sufficient to fully fund benefits and there were talks of the possibility of benefit cuts.....yeah so the feds made national commission on soc sec reform, headed by alan greenspan. and he projected that the system would be solvent for the entirety of its 75yr predicted period with certain recommendations like payroll tax increases ...it raised slightly the payroll tax for the self employed to equal the employer employee rate, chg'd certain benefit calculations, raised the retirement age to 67 by the yr 2027. now....according to the predictions of the ssa, the TF's supposed to show net growth until 2022...bc the interest generated by its bonds and the revenue from payroll taxes exceeds the amount needed to pay benefits. **but they keep whoring the TF out by giving away the store, making it too easy not to work just by getting diagnosed by DSM definitions & illegals, and now the gays so the TF's expected to decrease each year until being fully exhausted in 2033.

program costs are expected to exceed noninterest income from 2011 and beyond, however....due to interest the TF should run a surplus that adds to the fund through the end of 2021. under current law, the securities in the fund represent a legal obligation the govt must honor when program revenues arent sufficient to fully fund the benefit payments *this is why during the shutdown and all their CONgress meetings etc when they threaten soc sec as a number 1 source of holding hostage, they fkn CANT!! why? bc ss benefits aint on the budget

now they claim by 2033, the TFs is to be exhausted. payroll taxes are estimated to only cover reportedly like 75% of programs obligations.

*this is why i said back in 2010 when i was at a polly event in harrisburg, i overheard a convo by state reps that theyre gonna cap soc sec - both the ss retirement disability survivors and ssi - to one flat benefit amount - dont matter how many qtr's put in, or wages earned in last 3 yrs - the number mentioned was between 700 - 900 as the capped benefit amount. *to save money*

where're we at now? the feds have borrowed nearly $2.7 tril as of 2011 from the TF and used the money for other purposes. the TF is expected to peak in 2021 at approx $3 tril. this means that from 2022 - 2033, the govt will hafta find approx $3 tril in other funding to pay beneficiaries beyond program revenues

heres an article from october 2013;
Social Security: What Would Happen If the
Trust Funds Ran Out? CRS report for congress

There are many misconceptions about what would happen if the Social Security trust funds ran out. For example, some Americans may believe that if the trust funds were exhausted, Social Security will be completely broke and unable to pay any benefits. This is not the case. In fact, in 2033, the first year of projected insolvency, the program is projected to have enough income from taxes) to pay about 77% of scheduled benefits. The percentage of scheduled benefits that could be paid with income (from taxes) would decline to 72% in 2087, at the end of the trustees’ 75-year projection period.

Benefit Cut Scenario...Size of Benefit Cuts
If the trust funds were allowed to run out, Congress could eliminate annual cash-flow deficits by cutting benefits so that spending equals tax income on an annual basis. According to the trustees, achieving annual balance would require benefit cuts of 23% in 2033, the first year of insolvency, rising to 28% by 2087. To maintain balance after 2087, the Social Security trustees project that
larger benefit reductions would be needed, because the aging of the U.S. population, among other factors, is causing the cost of Social Security to grow over time.
Figure 1 on pdf page 11 shows the percentage
of scheduled benefits that are payable each year with scheduled revenues
[link to digitalcommons.ilr.cornell.edu]

dude - its all one elaborate show.

single payers coming

theyre whoring out the fund to every tom, dyke & fairy

i think thats the catastrophe that the govts been preppn for.

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Straight people aren't the only ones putting money into the system. If gays are paying taxes they should have the same benefits. NOT more benefits, NOT preferential treatment, but equal.

This is all a waste of time anyway. Government should be out of our business. Gay, straight, black, white, whatever. Why should government tell you who you can marry??

So your fine with polygamy, incest, and child marriage?

You can marry anyone you want, no-one is stopping you. The truth is that only a tiny percentage of homosexuals actually want to be married. They can exchange vows anytime they want, that's not illegal.

It's the right to force others to agree with your lifestyle that homosexuals want. That we will never give to you.

So let me get this straight, Phenom (I crack myself up).

You want to deny two people the right to commit to each other. How does that jive with that Creator-endowed unalienable right to pursue happiness, for surely choosing your mate is the most basic aspect of that pursuit?

Cut out the same old responses man. Nobody condones child marriages. Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own homes. They should also have the financial rights that straight married people enjoy.

I do agree with you about them forcing it at us non stop. I think the liberal agenda is sick, but we can't hate all gays for it nor should we keep them from benefiting from a system they also pay into.

You dont have to agree with my marriage (ya, Im one of the oh so few of whom you speak[as an aside, was at a party last night with five other married gay couples{I know! CRAZY!}]). You have a first amendment right to yimmer and yammer against it all ya like (and I will DEFEND your right). You dont have the right to infringe on MY right to pursue happiness. Can we all agree to that and get on to dealing with the real issues in this country?!

[link to abob.libs.uga.edu]

gays have social security numbers just like straights.

So, all people should receive benefits due to racism too?

As a gay person who ten years ago never conceived that my rights to commit to and protect the one I love would ever be honored and recognized in this country, I am overjoyed that the arrow of history has bowed toward justice on this issue; I was married last month to the love of my life.

I long for the day that this "issue" is no longer an issue! Just leave me alone to live my happy little life with my wife. Where there has been this wee bit of justice to allow me to pursue the most basic happiness of choosing and protecting my mate, I have watched so many other rights degraded and infringed.

People! Forget about gay people and the issue will go away (really, thats what most of us want). Lets get to task on stopping the infringements to the 1st (Patriot Act, NDAA), 2nd (the attempts are constant, and WTF is the ammo?), the 3rd (no govt in our houses - hear that NSA?), 4th (abolish the TSA), 5th (NDAA, rescinding of Habeas Corpus)....

Do y'all get the point, already?!

gays dont provide for their own or societies needs or future so guess who gets to pay for theirs when they get sick, drug addicted and old?

You do.

Pretty much every moment they are not at a real normal job they are engaging or preparing to engage in risky behavior of some fashion.

Oh and since they dont breed, they must recruit from some other families kids.

Tell that to the cake bakers, wedding photographers, and florists who have been ordered by the government to participate in homosexual ceremonies against their religion.

Live with whoever you want. Have whatever ceremony you want and invite whoever you want to it. But the moment those who speak on your behalf threaten my people (Christians) with fines and jail time for not wanting to participate in a ceremony that is against our religion, then you have lost any hope of getting sympathy from me.

The people who pretend to speak for you are trying to create a police state to take all of our rights away. You are merely useful idiots, who will be used and then tossed away when your service is done.

Please wake up. Christians don't hate you. We are told to love the sinner, but hate the sin. We love you. We simply refuse to acknowledge your behavior as anything other than a sin, that is destructive to you and our society.

Gay people: We're "born" gay and expect to be happy.

Everybody else: We're born into different races and expect to be happy.

Gay people: We're tired of being discriminated against.

Everybody else: We're tired of being discrimated against for the color of our skin.

Gay people: We want and expect the same rights just as "everyone else".

Everyone else: We're fighting continuously for the very few rights that we DO have.


See the picture? There's a spoiled little child, who is too focused on themselves and wants the whole world handed to them, while the other child, although not happy, is contempt, but yet works their butt off for the benefit of everybody ELSE.

We ALL go through hardships in life, no matter what, but I find it downright despicable for a certain type of people to always whine about everything they go through, as if other people don't have it worse, or equally as bad.

Genuine people don't use guilt trips. Genuine people don't want to be the primary focus of everything. I'm not saying all, but a LOT of gay people that I'VE seen were/are that way and are like a gang of wolves.

If anyone dares believe differently than they do, they get attacked. Hmm....sounds familiar??? Does this tactic sound familiar to you? Because it sure does to me. What IF......

I donot want to say it about Medicare, however my employer and i paid 15% of my wages, for my entire working life, into Social Security for my old age, which honors me with the privilege of living far below poverty income.

Now for Medicare: Government takes over $100.00 $dollars out (every fkn month) of my Social Security for medical insurance, called "Medicare". [in other words, as a poverty-income American, iam paying dearly for my Medicare (medical insurance)]. However thereis one little catch: Medicare pays such a pittance to the Medical Mafia for any cheapsht, pardon the expression, "medical care" that no one wants to take me as a patient, so i never get to see a doctor, nor get any, pardon the expression, "medical care", and the government gets to keep the money . . . EVERY FKING MONTH OF MY, haha what a joke, happy, oldage retirement for which I, and my husband, and my employer paid all our working life.

My husband never got to use his Social Security because he died before he was eligible, so the government gets to keep it . . . And if I ever here Ron Paul call Social Security an “entitlement”, I will smack him upside the mouth with something that wise, old man never ever even knew existed. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.- and one more thing: my Social Security, which was meant for my oldage retirement is being stolen (all ready three Trillion of it) from me and given to every Tom, Dick and Harry, all of which arenot old, and never ever even paid out a single, thin dime into it . . . So . . . Waala . . . Animal-existence poverty for the people that paid for it all their fking lives thank you.

In other words: Social Security isnot a tax, and is paid into by the Private Sector workers only. The money goes into a private account, not the general tax account for which all the We The People pay into, including we who paid into Social Security.

Sorry but this is where you Christians fall really short. You will never bring anyone else over to your side with your condemnations. It's quite repulsive actually. Just being honest here.

Actually, it will be very interesting, and I encourage you to watch this with an open mind: when gay people are encouraged by society to establish stable loving relationships, when they have an option to just having one-night stands, when they marry and commit to each other, will the behavior so many of you (understandably) find repugnant diminish? I think so. I got married last month. Most gay people I know are in committed relationships and are recently or soon to be married. They include corporate attorneys, fashion executives, Wall St traders, financial advisors, tech executives, flight attendents (I know), photographers, and real estate brokers.

I assure you that you are not supporting any of them. Dollars to donuts, they are subsidizing you.

Further, critically, dont you want gay people to support each other in marriage, so that you and I dont have to support them through the run-away social system because there is no one there to take care of them when they are old?

This'll never happen, there's no funds available.

OH, WAIT! They can just send a bunch of useless old grannies to visit the O'bomination's death panels then there'll plenty of funds available!